[Grovenet] Good choice, John!!

Katie Allnutt allnutt at verizon.net
Sat Aug 30 21:44:08 PDT 2008


My general rule is that I don't bet money, especially when I would  
love for the other person to win and in this case I truly hope that  
you are right*.

If there is one reason that Obama should win it is because he has a  
deep understanding of the fact that change only (emphasis on only)  
comes from the bottom up. This is true in dictatorships, in  
oligarchies, in democracies and especially in our government where  
the system is set up of, by, and for the people.  He has been  
consistent for the last 18 months that the change we will get will be  
the change that we insist must happen.  John McCain does not get that  
one iota and you can see it because he is grasping at straws trying  
to figure out what kind of change people want. (The VP pick was a  
very big grasp at some random change that he thinks will be  
satisfactory just by the fact that a woman is on the ticket.)


The reason why I have my doubts that Obama will win by the margins  
you suggest is that the American people have not yet settled on what  
kind of change they are willing to demand of their leaders and by  
extension themselves.  In a way I feel sorry for McCain. With Obama's  
understand of the constitution he knows that it has to come from the  
people and that the people have to define it. McCain thinks he can  
offer it up on a platter with the right packaging and he is trying  
pretty hard to package something, anything.

But the unknown here rests within people. The outcome depends on what  
we collectively decide and we are too susceptible to advertising.  
This election will in effect, just like those of the past, be decided  
upon the best advertising. The only difference is that more people  
will be watching the advertisements and paying attention and feeling  
like they have a stake in the outcome.  I'm keeping my fingers  
crossed....

Katie
*I'm usually pretty happy just being able to say 'I told you so'. And  
if you are right I would be happy to shout that 'you told me so!'
; )



On Aug 30, 2008, at 8:25 PM, Bob Browning wrote:

> We'll see!! Would you like to put $5 on a bet that Obama will win  
> by at least 20 percent in the popular vote, and 10 percent in  
> electoral college (but only if the Supremes are not involved!!).
>
> bob "pretty sure of himself" browning
>
> ===================================
>
> Katie Allnutt wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> Katie
>> PS Bob I disagree with the % win factor. If Obama wins (and that is a
>> big if for a black candidate in a Karl Rove  world) it will be close.
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Bob Browning wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> Also note that the only response the McCain handlers could find was
>> to once again attack the messengers. Maybe that's the real hope in
>> this campaign - once people get to know both candidates better, and
>> if race can be taken out as an issue (a huge "if", based upon my
>> conversations with some otherwise enlightened people who refuse to
>> tell me why they will vote against Obama),  Obama may well win by a
>> 25 to 35 percent margin!! You heard it here first!!
>>
>> bob "hit me again, I like it" browning
>>
>
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