[Grovenet] Driving Help Needed

[Ayala, Kathy]

IF for no other reason it takes more fuel to start the car again then to
let it run as you are waiting for the light to change. It is a scary
thing to think some one would turn off the auto not knowing that is what
happens and some one not being able to see them. Looks like an accident
waiting to happen. How old is your son?

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of +rlo
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:20 AM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Driving Help Needed

Again, another example of idiotic thoughts. This scares me! It doesn't
matter if it's against the law or not...it is certainly against the law
of common sense!

Allen Warren <osubuckeye59 at yahoo.com> wrote:  Last evening approximately
9:00 PM I was traveling north on Highway 47 with my 16-year old son
driving, approaching the intersection at Highway 8. Approximately 100
yards from the traffic signal the light changed to red. After stopping
for the signal, my son put the drive gear in Park and turned off the
car. It's important to note that when the motor is turned off the
computer automatically turns off the lights.

In a panic I asked, "what's wrong? why did you turn off the car?!". His
reply: "Since we're going to be sitting here for awhile I wanted to save
gas so I turned off the car." As you might expect, I told him to
immediately start the car and turn the lights on.

After my heart rate and blood pressure neared their normal levels, I
informed my son that for the very short period of time we would be
waiting for the traffic signal to turn green, we would actually use a
little more fuel and it would be an extra load on the car's system to
restart vs. sitting idling. I also informed my son that not only was it
*NOT* safe to sit in a parked car with headlights off in a traffic lane
at night but that I believed it to be against Oregon driving laws.

My son was open to the potential of the no-real gas/energy savings
answer being true (but still debated, as is normal for him) but argued
that turning off the vehicle and sitting there in the dark was *NOT*
unsafe as he said it was a well-lit area, and he also argued it wouldn't
be a traffic violation. I argued it was unsafe because even though it
was indeed a well-lit area and we were stopped at a red light signal, we
were sitting in a car, in a traffic lane, with no lights on at night. I
also informed him that unless the car was disabled and could not safely
be moved to the side and off the roadway, deliberately parking a car in
a traffic lane was a violation. He continued to argue his point this
morning.

I've looked on the DMV website and can't find actual text validating
either of our positions. Does anyone know if what occurred last evening
would be considered a violation under Oregon Motor Vehicle driving laws?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Allen Warren


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