[Grovenet] Fwd: Big Look Survey & 1000 Friends Response
David Morelli
jo.david at verizon.net
Sat Jun 28 00:53:32 PDT 2008
On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Bonnie Combs wrote:
> FYI and possible comments.
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> Thanks for your time.
> Bonnie B Combs
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:26:28 -0700
>> From: Gerik Kransky <gerik at friends.org>
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>> Subject: Big Look Survey & 1000 Friends Response
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My comments to them.
1. statewide importance vs market tools.
It is easy to use the words "market based" while ignoring the off
site costs of market decisions. Because farm, forest & fallow uses
are significant carbon repositories on an annual or longer basis,
carbon and air pollution taxes should be enacted on an air shed basis
with payments to operators of carbon sinks and air filters as a
market tool to increase the relative value of farm, forest & fallow
vs deforestation and development. Water pollution taxes should fund
operators of riparian cleansing sites, e.g. swales, swamps, & stream
side wild lands. The charge on maintenance of roofs, roads, drives,
parking and other impervious surfaces that increase run off should
fund operators of "sponges" that delay the surface flow and increase
ground water recharge.
Push for real market-based tools. Push for placing the full cost of
the problem onto the balance sheet of the source of the problem, and
pay the provided of the solution rather than legislating a "giving".
If there aren't enough carbon sinks, air filters, water filters or
recharge sites in an air/water shed to maintain a pristine system,
the pollution sources are not paying sufficient amounts to attract
sufficient pollution cleaning providers.
2 Growth Management
a. We should be designing our future land use as if gasoline cost an
hour's wage per gallon, and low cost, foreign food supplies are
subject to interruption or diversion. Large populations in the Metro
area totally dependent on foreign oil and foreign food is not good
planning.
b. "If you build it, they will come" We spend a lot of money
ensuring that we will have the problems associated with growth by
ensuring that we will have growth. Population follows jobs. Reduce
the job projections and reduce the population.
c. Start talking about birth rates and immigration. No one seems
capable of considering a successful economy that is not growing
exponentially. The whole concept of locating future growth in the
same place as historic growth should be reviewed. The whole concept
of one massive metro blight on the surface of our state, rather than
many smaller contained communities should also be reviewed.
Economic Prosperity
a.Drop the government subsidies for quick growth and loser
investments. Stop local governments from racing to the bottom as
they try to attract corporate prostitutes - the businesses that won't
go to bed with you without a financial offer.
b.Address for-profit medical insurance, medicines, clinics and
hospitals to address employment costs in the state.
Climate Change
a. Targets and mandates. No one has a "right" to pollute air or
water. The cost of maintaining air and water purity should be paid
by those who operate the sources of pollution. That way the cost is
passed to their consumers who will make an economic choice, rather
than to those who live downstream who have no choice.
Cap and trade for pollution cleanup may be acceptable, but the
charges must be for anything greater than zero. The incentive must
be to eliminate all pollution, otherwise we still reach the day of
death.
b. All urban and suburban schools should be walk in not bus in.
Gasoline is too cheap, its price should reflect the cost of
sequestering the carbon released and the NOx removal. Stop trying to
solve the "transportation problem" by building more lanes of
freeways. Don't expand the I-5 Bridge in Portland
to Vancouver. Don't destroy neighborhoods to improve the commute of
people just passing through. People are willing to spend 15-30
minutes on their commute, improving traffic flow just allows them to
commute longer distances. High fuel costs and long commute times
encourages them to rethink their job-housing arrangement. Stop
fighting the market forces, let commuters pay the full cost of their
choices.
There should be no environmental impact on a community from their
industry, then people can live a healthy life close to jobs.
Communities should strive to be self contained for jobs and housing
(not Metro wide, local), each city should be distinct surrounded by a
carbon sink, food source green belt. There are people in New York
City who have never left their borough, that is not sad that is
wonderful. We should strive to have such complete communities.
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