[Grovenet] The Problem with Electing Authoritarian Conservatives
Walt Wentz
waltw at teleport.com
Thu Nov 6 10:00:43 PST 2008
Odd, I ran across news of that research on the BBC a few weeks ago,
but it never even occurred to me to connect the two ideas! Thanks,
Geri!
Walt
>Walt, have you heard/read anything about the "startle response"
>being related to one's politics? Experts have been thinking and
>wondering about genetic traits which maybe influence one's politics
>... I'd heard about this a month or two ago, and here are a couple
>articles you and others may find interesting, whether taken
>seriously or not.
>
>http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/6065412.html
>
>http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1842523,00.html
>
>
>Geri
>
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>From: "Walt Wentz" <waltw at teleport.com>
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>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:24 AM
>Subject: Re: [Grovenet] The Problem with Electing Authoritarian Conservatives
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>> Interesting stuff-- but one wonders, where does the authoritarian
>> streak ultimately come from? Yes, absolutist family upbringing does
>> produce absolutist children, as Lakoff pointed out in "Don't Think of
>> an Elephant," but what of those people who rebel against narrow
>> family strictures and grow up open-minded, or those from open-minded
>> and tolerant families who retreat into absolutism? Barring inborn
>> impulses, shouldn't exposure to the wider, more varied world slowly
>> erode the authoritarian percentage of the population, despite the
>> most desperate efforts of intolerant parents, xenophobic churches and
>> authoritarian leaders?
>> Some years ago, a few anthropological researchers were proposing that
>> violent and amoral types were born as a fixed percentage of the
>> population, generally becoming criminals unless their violent
>> tendencies were harnessed or modified by the family or social
>> environment, and that this fixed genetic fraction was a once useful
>> but now destructive trait inherited from our monkey-band past,
>> formerly serving the purpose of providing a pool of aggressive
>> fighters to defend the band's territory.
>> Is it possible that the authoritarian personality is another outdated
>> monkey-band trait, originally useful in producing a reservoir of
>> subservient and unquestioning "beta" apes to enforce the authority of
>> whatever "alpha" ape took command of the band?
>> (Of course, one does not see this exact social organization in
>> chimpanzees or gorillas today, but then the great apes are highly
>> evolved from the old ancestral primate stock).
>> All this is mere speculation on my part, of course, but could it be
>> that we are going to be stuck with a fixed genetic percentage of
>> authoritarian xenophobes for as long as the race lasts, despite our
>> most determined efforts at enlightenment and tolerance?
>> Ook-ook, anyone?
>> Walt
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