[Grovenet] Wasilla Church

[Ed Davie]

Steven, why do you always add something 
derogatory? (poor self image?)
Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven
  To: Forest Grove local interests list
  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 4:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Wasilla Church


  There are other web sites besides Kos. You 
really need to get a life.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com 
[mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
  > Behalf Of Steele, Mike
  > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:53 PM
  > To: Forest Grove local interests list
  > Subject: [Grovenet] Wasilla Church
  >
  >
  > News from beyond...Sarah Palin's pastor's 
views on recent political
  > issues...here's an item from the Huffington 
Post on what Pastor Ed
  > Kalnins has had to say from the pulpit of the 
Wasilla church where Sarah
  > Palin was baptized at the age of 12:
  >
  >
  > If the church had a political alignment, it 
would almost surely be
  > conservative. In his sermons, Kalnins did not 
hide his affections for
  > certain national politicians.
  >
  > During the 2004 election season, he praised 
President Bush's performance
  > during a debate with Sen. John Kerry, then 
offered a not-so-subtle
  > message about his personal candidate 
preferences. "I'm not going tell
  > you who to vote for, but if you vote for this 
particular person, I
  > question your salvation. I'm sorry." Kalnins 
added: "If every Christian
  > will vote righteously, it would be a landslide 
every time."
  >
  > Months after hinting at possible damnation for 
Kerry supporters, Kalnins
  > bristled at the treatment President Bush was 
receiving over the federal
  > government's handling of Hurricane Katrina. "I 
hate criticisms towards
  > the President," he said, "because it's like 
criticisms towards the
  > pastor -- it's almost like, it's not going to 
get you anywhere, you
  > know, except for hell. That's what it'll get 
you."
  >
  > Much of his support for the current 
administration has come in the realm
  > of foreign affairs. Kalnins has preached that 
the 9/11 attacks and the
  > invasion of Iraq were part of a "world war" 
over the Christian faith,
  > one in which Jesus Christ had called upon 
believers to be willing to
  > sacrifice their lives:
  >
  >     "What you see in a terrorist -- that's 
called the invisible enemy.
  > There has always been an invisible enemy. What 
you see in Iraq,
  > basically, is a manifestation of what's going 
on in this unseen world
  > called the spirit world. ... We need to think 
like Jesus thinks. We are
  > in a time and a season of war, and we need to 
think like that. We need
  > to develop that instinct. We need to develop 
as believers the instinct
  > that we are at war, and that war is contending 
for your faith. ... Jesus
  > called us to die. You're worried about getting 
hurt? He's called us to
  > die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him 
unless you are willing to
  > give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus 
himself operated from that
  > position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode." 
Now you say, wait a
  > minute Ed, he's like the good shepherd, he's 
loving all the time and
  > he's kind all the time. Oh yes he is -- but I 
also believe that he had a
  > part of his thoughts that knew that he was in 
a war."
  >
  > As for his former congregant and current vice 
presidential candidate,
  > Kalnins has asserted that Palin's election as 
governor was the result of
  > a "prophetic call" by another pastor at the 
church who prayed for her
  > victory. "[He made] a prophetic declaration 
and then unfolds the kingdom
  > of God, you know."
  >
  > 
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  > ***
  >
  > Hmmmmm...what to say about this....?  In a 
way, it's all very comforting
  > to know...we are in really good hands.
  >
  > Now I know what to do with that bumper sticker 
that asks, "Who would
  > Jesus bomb today?"
  >
  > --Mike
  >
  >
  >
  >
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