[Grovenet] That's one big flag

[Steve Jerrett]

Holly,


When did the U.S. flag become a pro-war, anti choice, anti-gay, anti women
etc. symbol?  Why do you see this flag as an icon of everything you see as
negative about our country ?

Why don't you see it as representative of everyone-gays, straights,
homeless, wealthy, etc., etc.. Why doesn't it illicit a feeling of pride in
the fact that we have the freedoms of opinion, religion, sexual orientation,
etc. that make us such a unique civilization. Why do you feel that it
doesn't also represent YOUR Forest Grove? Don't you feel the least bit
apprehensive in being so audaciosly prejudicial in your assumptions about
the "anonymous family" regardless of  your rhetorically postured approach?
Why do you feel the need to chastise and belittle those that differ in
opinion as "tasteless or unprogressive?"

I find your level of intolerance  disturbingly ironic.


Steve



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Holly T." <feralcattamer at yahoo.com>
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] That's one big flag


I agree, Walt. I will not mince words. The thing is hideously grotesque
IMHO. Betsy Ross must be turning over in her grave.

As Tom Robbins said in his novel, Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates,
"The more advertising I see, the less I want to buy."

I feel frightfully embarrassed to be a Forest Grove resident because of this
monstrous display of "patriotism". I fear that anyone who drives through
Forest Grove, upon being blindsighted by this abhorant flag, will think that
our community is overrun by redneck Republicans who are pro-war,
anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-women, and against spending tax dollars to help
people and the environment. That's not MY Forest Grove and I resent my city
being portrayed in this tasteless, conservative, unprogressive manner.

The next time I pass the bus stop between Safeway and Goodwill and see all
those homeless people standing around less than a block away from this
monstrous flag, I will not be able to keep from wondering, "How many of them
could be fed for a very, very long time for what that monstrosity cost?"

For me, the mark of a true patriot is how much time and energy you spend
helping your fellow citizens. It's all about how much good you do for your
community. Not how big your flag is, how many wars you've illegally and
immorally and imperialistically waged against the wrong enemy, and how many
forests you've cut down in the name of capitalism. I thought we got past all
that ridiculous flag waving and conservative leanings when Dubya was finally
booted out at long last and Obama was sworn in. I thought there was a
rebirth in this country. A rebirth whereby people would do their best to
rebuild our nation, to undo the horrific damage done by the Bush
Administration, and to help each other.

I wonder how much money this "anonymous family" who donated this crass
monstrosity gave to charities this year. How much did they roll up their
sleeves to help those less fortunate than themselves? I wonder.

Holly Tsur





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From: Walt Wentz <waltw at teleport.com>
To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:32:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] That's one big flag

Not to be "unpatriotic" or anything, but it strikes me as somewhat
like the burger-joint-chain gimmick of a few years ago-- when local
sign codes limited the size of their signs, they just flew humungous
American flags to attract attention to themselves.
It is astonishing, even a bit overwhelming.
Walt
On Apr 23, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Allen Warren wrote:

> Bigger is better? One better than the Jones'? "Because we
> can!"? :-)
>
> Allen Warren
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven <NoSpam03 at comcast.net>
> To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:26:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] That's one big flag
>
> Is there a good explanation for why there is a humongous flag?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-
> bounces at rdrop.com]On
> Behalf Of Bob Browning
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:47 AM
> To: Forest Grove local interests list
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] That's one big flag
>
>
> No chuck, Chuck!! Any flag you can see from one end of town to
> the other
> is one humongous flag!! I wonder how long until the City has no
> money to buy
> the replacement flag when this one is all tattered in about 12 to 14
> months?? Or, maybe the Mayor is going to come up with the
> additional funds
> needed??
>
> bob
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> chuck wrote:
> Saw the flag yesterday as I was leaving town for work.
>
> That's - um - one - HUGE - flag.
>
> Wow.------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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