[Grovenet] Being thankful

[Geri]

Also: because of the mistreatment of the detainees, not only will some who weren't real terrorists before feel committed to terrorism of the U.S. now, but some will not be able to be brought to trial (see link to article, below*), and there are grounds so that at least one is now suing -- All because of the awful mess created at Gitmo, which has now ensured that the purpose of arresting these people has actually been defeated ...

* http://tinyurl.com/7hjo7u


Geri

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katie Allnutt" <allnutt at verizon.net>
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Being thankful


> Then we agree.
> Some of the people at Gitmo were horrendous violent and evil.  Those  
> would be fairly easy to prosecute and hold in jail for a very long time.
> 
> History tells us though that if you treat  cab drivers and  
> sheepherders violently, they emerge from the experience with negative  
> feelings toward their captors, regardless of whether they went in as  
> model citizens or low level thugs in their own communities. I would  
> too if I was the one subjected to harsh interrogation just short of  
> organ failure, using Dick Cheney and Alberto Gonzales descriptions of  
> what do to people at Gitmo.
> 
> But even though we agree on some points we are off track on the  
> thread that started this conversation. If some people are released  
> from Gitmo because Obama is changing our procedures there, will that  
> make us unsafe in a way that Bush's actions have not?  I submit that  
> it is no worse than what Bush has already done in creating more  
> terrorists and it may help by showing the rest of the world that you  
> can survive as a country if you hold to the principle that you do not  
> torture people.
> 
> 
> Katie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:21 PM, JJSAW at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> I guess I find it absolutely amazing that out of the hundreds of  
>> prisoners
>> that went into Guantanamo Bay, all of them were cab drivers and  
>> sheepherders.
>> And they were model citizens who decided to become terrorists  
>> "after" they
>> were released.
>>  Do I believe all of those arrested were terrorists and none were   
>> innocent?
>> Absolutely not. We can't even avoid picking up people in this  
>> country  that
>> were not guilty as charged.
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