[Grovenet] A few excellent thoughts on what it means to be an"American" . . .

[Steven]

Fine, you should be punished. I can see that. My family always fought for
freedoms. Yet just because my dad married a white woman, I am less a
citizen. 
You are a woman and garner much of the benefits removed from me.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
> Behalf Of Holly T.
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:55 AM
> To: Forest Grove local interests list
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] A few excellent thoughts on what it means to be
> an"American" . . .
> 
> 
> Sure, Steven, like you, equal opportunity has made it harder for 
> me to compete for jobs against those who are members of racial 
> minorities during my career that spans over 30 years. Equal 
> opportunity also prevented my daughter, who had a 3.7 
> accumulative GPA in her first four years of college, from getting 
> accepted into the free-ride Doctorate program that she wanted 
> because students who were inept at the nuances of the English 
> language were chosen over her because they were from foreign 
> countries that were on the quota list. 
> 
> But, when my grandmother was born in Tennessee, she was actually 
> suckled by a Negro mammy wet nurse because my great-grandmother 
> didn't have enough milk to feed her. Had that very special 
> Afro-American woman not been willing to feed my grandmother, I 
> very likely wouldn't be here today. My grandmother grew up on her 
> father's plantation that was far away from the closest neighbor. 
> The share croppers who worked my great-grandfather's plantation 
> were the children and grandchildren of slaves who remained 
> because they couldn't get jobs to feed their children following 
> emancipation. 
> 
> So, I've always done my best to be extremely nice to 
> Afro-Americans for that reason, and I tend to look the other way 
> and figure that minorities deserve whatever they get when I see 
> them being given preferential treatment. Especially when you 
> consider what our imperialistic ancestors did to destroy many of 
> their cultures. 
> 
> The only thing that bugs me is that you'd think I might've gotten 
> a little more rhythm out of the deal than I did, but no such 
> luck. Anyway, it's not how well you dance in life--just that you 
> dance, right?!
> 
> Holly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Steven <NoSpam03 at comcast.net>
> To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:29:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] A few excellent thoughts on what it means 
> to be an "American" . . .
> 
> Sure rings true about white guys.
> I don't think that white guys wrote the book on American Culture. It was
> just that there were more of us and we were the ones required to 
> go out and
> get the jobs in that culture.
> White guys were mostly in charge in European Culture, or British Culture.
> 
> The equal opportunity stuff sure ruined my advancement in the 70s 
> and 80s. I
> suffered yet my ancestors fought for the north in the Civil War. Why was I
> punished?
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
> Behalf Of Bob Browning
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:26 AM
>   To: Grovenet
>   Subject: [Grovenet] A few excellent thoughts on what it means to be an
> "American" . .
> 
>   A: Yes -- although the problem is that white people, men in particular,
> are not allowed that same opportunity. Until we can figure out if 
> “American
> culture” means “white culture” or something new, this problem will remain.
> 
>   -Michael Giarrusso, AP regional news director
> 
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