[Grovenet] What the cluck?

[Steven]

The tyrant in the grove.

Best description since the time he tried to tax the property of businesses
except his own.

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
Behalf Of mark oberzil
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:56 PM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: [Grovenet] What the cluck?

Lemme see if I got this straight (I've been out of town):

Put up a giant flag in a public place -no permit required.

Put a few pullets out of sight on your own property, and here comes the
government with its hand out?

Mark



--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Allen Warren <osubuckeye59 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Allen Warren <osubuckeye59 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Chicken Amendment
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:39 PM


It's interesting how the Council is reconsidering requiring a Residential
Permit, especially since there are already homeowners within city limits
raising chickens today.  But since most of these homeowners don't have
roosters, neighbors don't readily notice chickens in the vicinity.

All pets are "supposed" to be licensed, but truth is there is some
percentage of pet owners who never license their pets, and this becomes a
problem when said pets are found wandering the streets or captured as a
result of the pet attacking another pet/person or the pet being a
nuisance.  With chickens, there's really no incentive for a homeowner to
obtain a permit for the chickens and, again, if the chickens are
unnoticeable/undetected, there will be some homeowners who simply
forgo the cost of obtaining a permit.  Plus with chickens, homeowners
realize they need to do everything possible to keep them caged/restricted
more so to do with preventing the likes of raccoons from getting in and
eating the chickens.

I truly don't understand the logic of Residential Permits for chickens,
other than the City would then know who has/has not chickens.  But maybe
the only logic is to get additional monies, however small they be, for the
city coffers.  And no, we don't own any chickens.  :-)

Maybe I'll show up at the next meeting to find out details.

Question: who manages Council meetings?  Sets & publishes the agendas?
Publishes minutes?

Allen Warren


________________________________
From: Martha Khoury <khourym at verizon.net>
To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:21:57 AM
Subject: [Grovenet] Chicken Amendment

WHAT??!!

Did I hear you say they are back to permits for the residential zone?

Didn't they hear me say... "minimal bureaucracy?"

Did someone mention that the staff had worked through that idea
already and REJECTED it?

I love TriMet, but that guy coming threw us off schedule so badly that
I missed all the important stuff.
And the mayor talks way too much.

--Martha K.



On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:08 PM, David Morelli wrote:

> The chicken legislation is not an "emergency" so there will be two
> public readings before the vote.  The first reading was Monday and
> the next reading was scheduled, likely for the next regular council
> meeting.  Because there was a change to the area impacted by the
> proposed permit process that was not in the originally published
> announcement, they have extended the testimony period for that single
> item.  People may provide written comment on the expansion of the
> area subject to permits from the Commercial Zone to both the
> Commercial Zone and the Single Family Residence Zone.  There may also
> be public testimony on that single item at the next hearing on the
> legislation.
>
> David
>
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Bob Browning wrote:
>
>>
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