[Grovenet] What the cluck?

Katie Allnutt allnutt at verizon.net
Thu Jun 11 08:28:25 PDT 2009


Isn't it because the city itself (parks dept) put up the city owned  
(donated to the city) flag?

Does the city require itself to get permits?  I'm not going to be  
amazed if they don't.

Katie


On Jun 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, mark oberzil wrote:

> Lemme see if I got this straight (I've been out of town):
>
> Put up a giant flag in a public place -no permit required.
>
> Put a few pullets out of sight on your own property, and here comes  
> the government with its hand out?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/10/09, Allen Warren <osubuckeye59 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Allen Warren <osubuckeye59 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Chicken Amendment
> To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:39 PM
>
>
> It's interesting how the Council is reconsidering requiring a  
> Residential Permit, especially since there are already homeowners  
> within city limits raising chickens today.  But since most of these  
> homeowners don't have roosters, neighbors don't readily notice  
> chickens in the vicinity.
>
> All pets are "supposed" to be licensed, but truth is there is some  
> percentage of pet owners who never license their pets, and this  
> becomes a problem when said pets are found wandering the streets or  
> captured as a result of the pet attacking another pet/person or the  
> pet being a nuisance.  With chickens, there's really no incentive  
> for a homeowner to obtain a permit for the chickens and, again, if  
> the chickens are unnoticeable/undetected, there will be some  
> homeowners who simply forgo the cost of obtaining a permit.  Plus  
> with chickens, homeowners realize they need to do everything  
> possible to keep them caged/restricted more so to do with  
> preventing the likes of raccoons from getting in and eating the  
> chickens.
>
> I truly don't understand the logic of Residential Permits for  
> chickens, other than the City would then know who has/has not  
> chickens.  But maybe the only logic is to get additional monies,  
> however small they be, for the city coffers.  And no, we don't own  
> any chickens.  :-)
>
> Maybe I'll show up at the next meeting to find out details.
>
> Question: who manages Council meetings?  Sets & publishes the  
> agendas?  Publishes minutes?
>
> Allen Warren
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Martha Khoury <khourym at verizon.net>
> To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:21:57 AM
> Subject: [Grovenet] Chicken Amendment
>
> WHAT??!!
>
> Did I hear you say they are back to permits for the residential zone?
>
> Didn't they hear me say... "minimal bureaucracy?"
>
> Did someone mention that the staff had worked through that idea
> already and REJECTED it?
>
> I love TriMet, but that guy coming threw us off schedule so badly that
> I missed all the important stuff.
> And the mayor talks way too much.
>
> --Martha K.
>
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:08 PM, David Morelli wrote:
>
>> The chicken legislation is not an "emergency" so there will be two
>> public readings before the vote.  The first reading was Monday and
>> the next reading was scheduled, likely for the next regular council
>> meeting.  Because there was a change to the area impacted by the
>> proposed permit process that was not in the originally published
>> announcement, they have extended the testimony period for that single
>> item.  People may provide written comment on the expansion of the
>> area subject to permits from the Commercial Zone to both the
>> Commercial Zone and the Single Family Residence Zone.  There may also
>> be public testimony on that single item at the next hearing on the
>> legislation.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Bob Browning wrote:
>>
>>>
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