[Grovenet] GroveNet Digest, Vol 55, Issue 9

[mark oberzil]

One wonders whether the Flag, like Pinocchio's nose, gets bigger every time we contradict the core values for which it stands.   
 
Mark

--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bob Browning <rab at jurislex.com> wrote:


From: Bob Browning <rab at jurislex.com>
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] GroveNet Digest, Vol 55, Issue 9
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 6:28 PM


But, Alan, as we look back, let's be careful that we don't confuse the object with the symbol, because when we do there is no ending of where the "veneration " starts and the "desecration" ends. What about flag dewrags, blankets, water bottles, hardhats, Chevy trucks, bikinis, underwear?? Only clean underwear?? Only panties and boxers, but no briefs or thongs?? That is part of the problem with extremist Islam or Christianity, where the desecration of the Quran or the Bible is deemed a capital offense, when it ought to only make the faith of the believer stronger.

And I think my son would agree with me on this. I would like to believe that he recognizes the symbolism of the flag, and that part of that symbolism is the right of the "non-believer" to seek to incite/promote discussion/dissension/disbelief by the inappropriate display/destruction of the same, and that the strength of those who are supportive of this sometimes great nation is that they seek to lead by example and not by inappropriate attacks on the disbeliever/unbeliever/nonbeliever. He's not fighting for the flag, but for the principles for which it stands. Which makes Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz's torture all the more perverse, since they sought to wrap themselves in the flag while subverting the very principles for which it stands!!

bob "I will defend to my death your right to be wrong" browning
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Alan Domenghini aka an OleHoss wrote: 
Bob .... I think the most IMPORTANT of all ... is the caring of the
afore mentioned item.... remember back during the Kent State Riots
during the Viet-Nam war when the flag was desecrated?
  
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