[Grovenet] What the cluck?

Glenn Berkheimer braketimecoffee at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 29 12:39:30 PDT 2009


Can one of please run for City Council so maybe we have a chance to have someone on it that is not a politician or one that wants to be one.  To me they all need to be impeached.
Just a suggestion./

> From: NoSpam03 at comcast.net
> To: grovenet at rdrop.com
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:10:41 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] What the cluck?
> 
> The tyrant in the grove.
> 
> Best description since the time he tried to tax the property of businesses
> except his own.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
> Behalf Of mark oberzil
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:56 PM
> To: Forest Grove local interests list
> Subject: [Grovenet] What the cluck?
> 
> Lemme see if I got this straight (I've been out of town):
> 
> Put up a giant flag in a public place -no permit required.
> 
> Put a few pullets out of sight on your own property, and here comes the
> government with its hand out?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/10/09, Allen Warren <osubuckeye59 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Allen Warren <osubuckeye59 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Chicken Amendment
> To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:39 PM
> 
> 
> It's interesting how the Council is reconsidering requiring a Residential
> Permit, especially since there are already homeowners within city limits
> raising chickens today.  But since most of these homeowners don't have
> roosters, neighbors don't readily notice chickens in the vicinity.
> 
> All pets are "supposed" to be licensed, but truth is there is some
> percentage of pet owners who never license their pets, and this becomes a
> problem when said pets are found wandering the streets or captured as a
> result of the pet attacking another pet/person or the pet being a
> nuisance.  With chickens, there's really no incentive for a homeowner to
> obtain a permit for the chickens and, again, if the chickens are
> unnoticeable/undetected, there will be some homeowners who simply
> forgo the cost of obtaining a permit.  Plus with chickens, homeowners
> realize they need to do everything possible to keep them caged/restricted
> more so to do with preventing the likes of raccoons from getting in and
> eating the chickens.
> 
> I truly don't understand the logic of Residential Permits for chickens,
> other than the City would then know who has/has not chickens.  But maybe
> the only logic is to get additional monies, however small they be, for the
> city coffers.  And no, we don't own any chickens.  :-)
> 
> Maybe I'll show up at the next meeting to find out details.
> 
> Question: who manages Council meetings?  Sets & publishes the agendas?
> Publishes minutes?
> 
> Allen Warren
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Martha Khoury <khourym at verizon.net>
> To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:21:57 AM
> Subject: [Grovenet] Chicken Amendment
> 
> WHAT??!!
> 
> Did I hear you say they are back to permits for the residential zone?
> 
> Didn't they hear me say... "minimal bureaucracy?"
> 
> Did someone mention that the staff had worked through that idea
> already and REJECTED it?
> 
> I love TriMet, but that guy coming threw us off schedule so badly that
> I missed all the important stuff.
> And the mayor talks way too much.
> 
> --Martha K.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:08 PM, David Morelli wrote:
> 
> > The chicken legislation is not an "emergency" so there will be two
> > public readings before the vote.  The first reading was Monday and
> > the next reading was scheduled, likely for the next regular council
> > meeting.  Because there was a change to the area impacted by the
> > proposed permit process that was not in the originally published
> > announcement, they have extended the testimony period for that single
> > item.  People may provide written comment on the expansion of the
> > area subject to permits from the Commercial Zone to both the
> > Commercial Zone and the Single Family Residence Zone.  There may also
> > be public testimony on that single item at the next hearing on the
> > legislation.
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Bob Browning wrote:
> >
> >>
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