[Grovenet] Fw: 545

Tue Mar 17 20:05:36 PDT 2009

The other thought is, Could it be any worse?

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> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
> Behalf Of Allen Warren
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:50 PM
> To: Tosca at prodigy.net; Forest Grove local interests list
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Fw: 545
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> Okay . . . let's say I take Door #3 and run for office . . .
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> Does my background, over 25 years in the engineering profession with roles
> where I managed others as well as roles where I was a Program Manager
> leading a team, does this background make anyone feel comfortable that I
> have the skills to be a good representative in Congress to those
> who elected
> me?
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> I have zero experience in politics.  Is this an asset or liability?
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> Today, I don't know the first thing about our Congress'
> procedural process. 
> Is this an asset or liability?
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> I'm not registered in any political party.  Is this an asset or liability?
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> Let's say I really did run for office . . . if by some miracle I actually
> *WOULD* win, I can almost guarantee I'd be viewed by my fellow
> Congress-people as the proverbial floating feces in the punch bowl.  Would
> this be an asset or liability to the folks who elected me to
> representative
> them?
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> Charley Reese expresses frustration and outrage.  I relate.  His
> options #1
> & #4 are basically 'do nothing'.  His option #2 is tough
> because unless we get a massive, one-time turnover, we very well could end
> up with the entranched masses brain-washing the "new kids" and
> then we have
> essentially no change.
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> In summary, it's option #3 that has the most potential.  But can it really
> happen?  Would we really all support it?
>  
> Allen Warren
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> From: Bonnie Combs <tosca at prodigy.net>
> To: grovenet <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:04:25 PM
> Subject: [Grovenet] Fw: 545
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> --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Barbara Greaves <grabarb at comcast.net> wrote:
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> From: Barbara Greaves <grabarb at comcast.net>
> Subject: 545
> To: "Combs, Bonnie" <Tosca at prodigy.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 12:32 PM
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> 545 vs 300,000,000  (Republicans & Democrats Alike - No One Is Blameless)
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>  Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.
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>  545 PEOPLE
> By Charlie Reese
> Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then
> campaign against them.
> Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are
> against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
> Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and
> high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
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> You and I don't propose a federal budget.  The President does.
> You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on
> appropriations.
> The House of Representatives does.
> You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
> You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
> You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
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> One hundred Senators, 435 Congressmen, one President, and nine
> Supreme Court
> justices , 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally,
> morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems 
> that plague
> this country.
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> I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that
> problem was
> created by the Congress.   In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional
> duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private,
> central bank.
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> I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound
> reason. They
> have no legal authority.   They have no ability to coerce a senator, a
> congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.  I
> don't care if
> they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the
> power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is
> the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
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> Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what
> they did is not their fault.   They cooperate in this common con
> regardless
> of party.
> What separates a politician from a normal human being is an
> excessive amount
> of gall.   No normal human being would have the gall of a
> Speaker, who stood
> up and criticized the President for creating deficits.   The president can
> only propose a budget.   He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
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> The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole
> responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating
> and approving
> appropriations and taxes.   
> Who is the speaker of the House?   Nancy Pelosi.  She is the leader of the
> majority party.   She and fellow House members, not the President, can
> approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it
> over his veto if they agree to.
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> It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace
> 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and
> irresponsibility.   I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not
> traceable directly to those 545 people.  When you fully grasp the plain
> truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal
> government, then it
> must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
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> If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
> If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red .
> If the Army & Marines are in  IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .
> If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan
> not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
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> There are no insoluble government problems.
> Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire
> and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they
> can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to
> regulate and from
> whom they can take this power.   Above all, do not let them con
> you into the
> belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy,"
> "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an
> oath to do.
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> Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
> They, and they alone, have the power.
> They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people
> who are their
> bosses.
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>  Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.
>  We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
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>  Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.
>  What you do with this article now that you have read it is up to
> you, though you have several choices:
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>  1.  You can send this to everyone in your address book and hope "they" do
> something about it.
>  2.  You can agree to "vote against" everyone that is currently in office,
> knowing that the process will take several  years.
>  3.  You can decide to "run for office" yourself and agree to do the job
> properly.
>  4. Lastly, you can sit back and do nothing or re-elect the current bunch.
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