[Oeva-list] Re: wire at ABoy & Home Depot

Theoldcars at aol.com Theoldcars at aol.com
Sun Sep 11 22:29:06 PDT 2005

Hello Mark 
Gary is correct about the size wire for the current. I have bought the 10/3  
at Home Depot this is the largest size wire for extension cords they have  
For a longer heavy duty extension cord (100 feet) I bought 8/3 at ABoy on  
Barbur Blvd. It is on the back wall on rolls.
The 10/3 and 8/3 both are the flexible type and with the same black  cover 
that is water resistant. I believe they are also resistant to oil but not  
certain. Just looking at them you would not know the difference except for the  
size. The 8/3 is quite a bit bigger and in a really long cord it weighs a  lot.
In a message dated 9/11/2005 7:12:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
oeva-list-request at oeva.org writes:

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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:22:18 -0700
From: Gary Graunke  <gary at whitecape.org>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Re: Oeva-list Digest, Vol  23, Issue 10
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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You can find appropriate black  outdoor (water resistant) cord at Home Depot.

For my 30 ft 30A cord I  have 10/3 (10 gauge, 3 conductor) 90deg C water 
resistant SooW CSA -40deg  C FT-2 MSHA P-7K-123033 600V.
(The main thing is to get 10 guage 90degree  and water resistant!).
I use L6-30 connectors for this one on each end. Max  current is 30A.

For my 20 ft 50A cord I have 10/4 90deg C water  resistant SJOOW CSA 
-40deg C P-7K-123033 MSHA 300V. (It does all 4 wires  in the 14-50 on 
each end). I use this for the 10KW PFC50, though 50A is a  bit high for 
the 10 gauge cable--I should be using 8 gauge. On the other  hand, I keep 
it short and the 50A draw does not last very long (a few  minutes) with 
my pack.

In the building codes, I see 10 gauge wire  can carry 30, 35, or 40A for 
wire with temp ratings of 60, 75, and 90  degrees C, respectively. So 40A 
is about the limit here.  The 8 gauge  numbers are 40, 50, and 55 at 
those temperature ratings.

You would  seem to need only 15A at 240V, or 30A at 120V, to produce the 
96V 30A  output (allowing for charger inefficiencies).

Anyway, you should be  able to find this at Home Depot on the big spools. 
They sell it by the  foot.

Good luck!  (Wire it carefully, and call if you are not  sure!!)

> Three questions motivate this  posting:
> 1) What to use for the cord portion of a custom  power cord/adapter I'm 
> 2) Does anyone have any  extra cord they want to sell?
> 3) Where is suitable cord  available retail?
> My 1980 Jet Electra Van is back on the road  now with rebuilt brakes on all 
4 wheels and much improved handling as a  result. My task now is to build a 
adapter/extension cord so I can plug in the  Van's charger to charging stations.
> The Van's charger looks  like about circa 1980. It has the Jet Industries 
"Jet" logo stamped on top.  The input side of the Van's charger has a male 3 
prong "Range" style plug,  it's a NEMA 10-50p. The PGE/WTC charging station 
downtown has a 220v  receptacle which is a NEMA 14-50r. 
>  Http://www.evchargernews.com/nemaconfig.htm gives a pictorial of what 
these  configurations look like.
> The output side of the charger has  two circuits:
> 1) a 96v 30 amp rated circuit for the main pack  of 16 Trojan T105s.
> 2) a 12v 15 amp rated circuit for the 12v  circuit battery.
> I only use one of these circuits at a time.  Both circuits are fuse 
protected and the most current the charger's built-in  ammeter has ever registered is 
24 amps. So even though the NEMA 14-50r and  10-50p are 50 amp units, is a 50 
amp rated connecting cord necessary? It seems  like a 30 amp rated cord would 
be fine.
> I already have the  appropriate adapter plug and receptacle, and just need 
about 20 ft of suitable  cord to connect them. When I went to the Aboy/ACE 
hardware store on SW Barbur  Blvd. a while back, they had a bunch of different 
electrical wire guages in  bulk. But I didn't see the style of cord used on many 
EVs to "plug-in." Where  is this style cord available and does anyone have 
some extra length they want  to sell?
> I ended up buying a length of wire that looked like  what one would wire a 
220 circuit inside a house with. But this proved to be  unsatisfactory. It is 
too stiff and inflexible, and so it doesn't coil up for  storage like a 
regular extension cord. Also, it just looks bad draped out the  back of the Van, 
hanging just above the street with a bunch of bends in it, on  it's way to the 
charging station..... 
> Mark Freidberg

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