[Oeva-list] Re: charging in Salem & Wiring 220 plugs?

Theoldcars at aol.com Theoldcars at aol.com
Mon Jun 19 00:17:01 PDT 2006

Hello Gary
I did not explain that well.
The place I am going to has existing 220 plugs in the hotel rooms for air  
conditioners. They are 20 amps circuits. If I plug into two rooms  and run them 
into one I would still have 220 but at 40 amps.
I could wire the plugs the same so they would not run power from different  
legs together. This would work as long as they wired all the rooms the same. I  
am sure the place does not want me to start taking their wall  plugs out of 
the wall or pulling their breaker box panel off. 
Do I just assume they wired all the plugs the same or should I make up a  
little circuit breaker box with two 20 amp plugs in and one 40 amp plug out? If  
it flip the breaker then I could just switch the wires on one 20 amp 220 air  
conditioner wall plug.
In a message dated 6/18/2006 10:23:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
gary at whitecape.org writes:


I would look much harder for 220V at 30A again.

You  would need at least 4 110V 20A circuits under ideal conditions to 
make  220V at 40A. It would have to be a single phase circuit with 2 on 
one leg  and two on the other with a common neutral.

However, this is unlikely  to happen by accident. In addition, it's not 
uncommon for folks to get the  neutral and hot wires crossed, and this 
may not be detected by normal 110V  operation. When you put them 
together, all sorts of things can happen  (mostly not good things).

In addition, they may have different kinds of  power, depending on 
whether they are residential, commercial, or  industrial.

Multiple parallel chargers work if they are isolated--some  that we like 
a lot (including PFC's) are not.

So I would check out  the RV campgrounds near Salem. They usually have an 
outlet like we have  downtown--NEMA 14-50.


Theoldcars at aol.com wrote:
>  Hello Rick
> Thank you for the information. I figured out  it will take around 4 hours 
> charging to make it from Portland to  Salem and back.
> I checked out the circuit breaker panel  where I will be at. They have no 
> 220 thirty amp circuit that I can  access.  However they do have multiple 
> 20 amp 220 plugs for  their in room air conditioners that are all home run. 
>  If they will allow me does anyone see a problem with wiring two 20 
>  amp 220 plugs together into a single 40 amp 220 plug? Not being an 
>  electrician I am wondering if the code addresses my concern. Is wiring  
> always run from the buses the same way to all the plugs in a  building?
> If I it turns out I cannot plug in there.  Does anyone know of any 
> charging locations in Salem? I will be there  for four hours near 
> Commercial Street Near Ruebler Blvd off I-5 exit  252.
> Thanks
> Don
> In a  message dated 6/18/2006 8:06:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>  barnes.rick at verizon.net writes:
>      Don:
>     There is a  campground right at the Woodburn exit.
>     I would call ahead and speak with the manager to  let them know you
>     are coming.
>     Portland-Woodburn Rv Park
>   _http://www.woodburnrv.com/_
>     Address:  115 N Arney Rd, Woodburn, OR 97071
>     Phone: (503)  981-0002
>     Directions:
>      Take exit #271/OR-214 toward SILVERTON/WOODBURN - go 0.2 mi
>   Turn on NEWBERG HWY - go 0.1 mi Turn on N ARNEY RD - go  <
>     0.1 mi
>      >Hi Rick,
>       >
>      >I am sure we can work something out - it  will depend upon which of 
>     sites is available at  the time you come in. If we charge you $1.00
>     each  time you recharge does that seem fair enough?
>       >
>      >If you like you can tell others about our  availability.
>      >
>       >Our office is open 8:00 am to 9:00 pm. Should you come in before  
>      >AM
>     you could  use space #99, #101, #102 located next to the mini storage
>   sheds on the east side of the RV Park and come in to settle up  with
>     us after we are open that day or drop the  money through the front
>     office door. We have "after  hour registration" envelopes located in
>     the black  mail box at the front of the office you could place your
>   money in before dropping through the mail slot.
>   >
>      >Connie Grade
>   >Manager
>   Also Pheasant Ridge RV _http://www.pheasantridge.com/_ (about  17
>     miles from
>      Woodburn)
>     Pheasant Ridge Rv Park
>   Address: 8275 SW Elligsen Rd, Wilsonville, OR 97070
>   Phone: (503) 682-7829
>      Directions:
>     Take I-5 exit #286 toward N.  WILSONVILLE/STAFFORD - go 0.2 mi
>     Turn on SW  ELLIGSEN RD - go 0.5 mi
>     Open at 9, $1 per hour. If  booked up will let you plug into 120V
>     outlets if  30A/50A not available.
>      Hope this helps,
>         Rick Barnes
>         -----Original  Message-----
>         *From:*  oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org
>          [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] *On Behalf Of
>       *Theoldcars at aol.com
>          *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2006 3:38 PM
>          *To:* oeva-list at oeva.org
>         *Subject:*  [Oeva-list] Re: charging
>          Anyone know of a charging location with 220 and a 30 amp or
>   larger circuit breaker between Wilsonville and  Salem on or near I-5?
>   Don

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