[Oeva-list] counter productive to lobby
Theoldcars at aol.com
Theoldcars at aol.com
Thu Aug 16 00:08:13 PDT 2007
There are a few more Rangers driving around the area that use this type of
plug. I know of three that were all have been used daily. There could be
others if more people were interested in driving electric I still have a couple of
Rangers and S-10 trucks. The S-10 can use the Avcon with the adapter.
I too thought the Library was not the first place I would put only a 240
charger. The should have added 120 and I don't remember seeing one. Must have
been mandatory for funding the building. Not being available 24/7 really is a
big down side to this location.
I would not require a business to install EV locations but I would like it
if they did it on their own. I put in a Avcon and it has been used several
times by local drivers at night. I offered parking spots to my employees with
free charging and no one was interested.
I have been emailing and called Rick Durst at PGE. I really felt the park
and rides charging locations would be a huge. I have offered to sponsor the 17
locations if that is what it takes to make it happen. Its not that we have an
excess of money but I really feel this would make a difference for Oregon. I
would like the city of Portland to do something about the bike lanes being
safer. I wish it was an easy fix as putting in charging locations.
On the Park and Rides I have not heard anything and it has been a long time.
Anyone know of another way of contacting Rick?
Theoldcars at aol.com writes:
> employee was closing up and said I was the first vehicle they have ever
> seen using it.
As an aside, this is exactly why I think it's counter productive to lobby
businesses to install EV charging - the charging spot sits there unused
most of the time.
Places like the library don't make sense for EV charging spots because
they aren't the sort of place people spend much time at. I'd bet that
most people visiting the library are there for no more than 30 minutes.
I'd also bet that most people visiting the library are already close to
home, so if they have an EV it's either almost fully charged (just leaving
home) or they're almost home anyway so why bother charging here for just
a few minutes?
When I first heard about this charging spot, I wondered why they installed
a charging spot, and why they went with an Avcon. I have an Avcon and I
think Don and maybe one other person in Portland have Avcons - hardly much
of a "target customer base"!
People generally spend most of their time at home or at work. Most people
have the ability to charge at home, even if just with 120v, but most work
locations don't have, or don't allow, access to exterior power.
I think that any lobbying efforts should go towards getting employers to
install charging spots for employees. I'd love to see employer incentives
from a group like the Energy Trust of Oregon that pay (or help pay) for the
installation costs. There might also need to be legislation that requires
employers to install charging spots if requested, perhaps having the
employee (or the Energy Trust) pay some or all of the cost.
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:53:56 -0700
From: Alan Batie <alan at batie.org>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Hillsdale Library Charging Station
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Ralph Merwin wrote:
> I think that any lobbying efforts should go towards getting employers to
> install charging spots for employees.
I agree; I raised the same issue on a new local corvallis ev list, whom
our new mayor is even on. The argument for them is it increases the
visibility of EVs as an option, though I think they make even less sense
here in Corvallis, where you can go completely across town a couple of
times in 20 miles...
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