[Oeva-list] Oeva-list Digest, Vol 46, Issue 17. All Electric Motorcycle

Mike Lane mlane at brammo.com
Fri Aug 17 08:23:41 PDT 2007


Hello Travis,

Hope all is well.  My name is Mike Lane, project coordinator / buyer for the
"Enertia" all electric motorcycle by Brammo Motorsports, LLC.   For
information about our company, and to view the "Enertia" video clip (ridden
on the streets of Portland), please visit our corporate website at:

www.brammo.com

and product specific websites at:

www.enertiabike.com and www.arielatom.com


Brammo Motorsports, LLC has been producing the "Ariel Atom" sports car here
in Ashland, OR.  And we are in the pre-production design and vendor sourcing
phase of our development with our all electric motorcycle, the Enertia. The
Enertia will be manufactured in Ashland, OR., USA.  We already meet all
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration standards for a street legal
motorcycle.  And, we are working with Underwriters Laboratories for a
product approval.  Therefore, we are using individual product approved by
various laboratories for application and sale in the United States.  We are
also in the planning stages for marketing the ENERTIA in Europe, and the
Pacific Rim.  


We already have orders from customers for the Enertia via word of mouth and
the brief publicity in Portland and Medford (and we have not begun a
marketing campaign). Good luck in your endeavors.
 

Thank you in advance, 

Mike Lane - Project Coordinator

BRAMMO Motorsports, LLC
695 Mistletoe, Unit A, Ashland OR 97520
P.541-482-9555 x 327   
F.541-488-6989 

mailto: mlane at brammo.com
http://www.brammo.com/ 


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Counter productive to lobby (Nick Galaday)
   2. Electric motorcycle project (Travis Gintz)
   3. Better blower motors (Jerry McIntire)
   4. Dodge TEVan for sale in Portland (Jerry McIntire)
   5. Re: Hillsdale Library Charging Station (Tim Johnson)
   6. Images from EV Awareness day (R Olson)


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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:07:55 -0700
From: "Nick Galaday" <nickgaladay at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Counter productive to lobby
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I remembered seeing 120VAC outlets at each parking spot curbside along
Bridge St. in Vernonia.  I called the City to ask when the "EV charging
stations" were installed and how many there are.  This started quite a
conversation about Christmas decorations....  Alas, the outlets are
powered down except during the holiday season; but they now know we're
coming!

Nick Galaday
Vernonia, OR

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:08:13 EDT
From: Theoldcars at aol.com
Subject: [Oeva-list] counter productive to lobby
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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There are a few more Rangers driving around the area that use this type
of
plug. I know of three that were all have been used  daily. There could be
others if more people were interested in driving  electric I still have a
couple of
Rangers and S-10 trucks. The S-10 can use  the Avcon with the adapter.

I too thought the Library was not the first  place I would put only a 240
charger. The should have added 120 and I don't  remember seeing one. Must
have
been mandatory for funding the building. Not  being available 24/7 really
is a
big down side to this location.

I would not require a business to install  EV locations but I would like
it
if they did it on their own. I put in a Avcon  and it has been used
several
times by local drivers at night. I offered parking  spots to my employees
with
free charging and no one was interested.

I have been emailing and called Rick Durst at  PGE. I really felt the park

and rides charging locations would be a huge. I  have offered to sponsor
the 17
locations if that is what it takes to make it  happen. Its not that we
have an
excess of money but I really feel this would  make a difference for
Oregon. I
would like the city of Portland to do something  about the bike lanes
being
safer. I wish it was an easy fix as putting in  charging locations.

On the Park and Rides I have not heard anything  and it has been a long
time.
Anyone know of  another way of contacting Rick?

Don



Theoldcars at aol.com writes:
>
..
> An
> employee  was closing up and said I was the first vehicle they have ever
> seen  using it.

As an aside, this is exactly why I think it's counter  productive to lobby
businesses to install EV charging - the charging spot  sits there unused
most of the time.

Places like the library don't make  sense for EV charging spots because
they aren't the sort of place people  spend much time at.  I'd bet that
most people visiting the library are  there for no more than 30 minutes.
I'd also bet that most people visiting the  library are already close to
home, so if they have an EV it's either almost  fully charged (just
leaving
home) or they're almost home anyway so why bother  charging here for just
a few minutes?

When I first heard about this  charging spot, I wondered why they
installed
a charging spot, and why they  went with an Avcon.  I have an Avcon and I
think Don and maybe one other  person in Portland have Avcons - hardly
much
of a "target customer  base"!

People generally spend most of their time at home or at  work.  Most
people
have the ability to charge at home, even if just with  120v, but most work
locations don't have, or don't allow, access to exterior  power.

I think that any lobbying efforts should go towards getting  employers to
install charging spots for employees.  I'd love to see  employer
incentives
from a group like the Energy Trust of Oregon that pay (or  help pay) for
the
installation costs.  There might also need to be  legislation that
requires
employers to install charging spots if requested,  perhaps having the
employee (or the Energy Trust) pay some or all of the  cost.

Ralph


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Message:  3
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:53:56 -0700
From: Alan Batie  <alan at batie.org>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Hillsdale Library Charging  Station
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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Ralph Merwin wrote:

> I think  that any lobbying efforts should go towards getting employers
to
> install  charging spots for employees.

I agree; I raised the same issue on a new  local corvallis ev list, whom
our new mayor is even on.  The argument  for them is it increases the
visibility of EVs as an option, though I think  they make even less sense
here in Corvallis, where you can go completely  across town a couple of
times in 20  miles...


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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:43:10 -0700
From: "Jeff Kim" <jkim.shurepower at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] counter productive to lobby
To: "Theoldcars at aol.com" <Theoldcars at aol.com>
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Hi Don,
I think it's great that you are willing to sponsor these charging
stations.
Do you know how much the Avcon chargers cost?  What would the total
installed cost be?

Our company is currently involved with plug-in technologies at truck
stops.
You can find more information at www.shurepower.com.  We are a start up
company, but the infrastructure we build could also be used for EVs and
PHEVs.  We can install almost any type of plug on our "pedestals".

Attached are a couple of pictures.

Jeff Kim
Chief Operating Officer
Shurepower, LLC
(503) 686-8844
jkim at shurepower.com
www.shurepower.com


On 8/16/07, Theoldcars at aol.com <Theoldcars at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  There are a few more Rangers driving around the area that use this type
> of plug. I know of three that were all have been used daily. There could
> be others if more people were interested in driving electric I still
have a
> couple of Rangers and S-10 trucks. The S-10 can use the Avcon with the
> adapter.
>
> I too thought the Library was not the first place I would put only a 240
> charger. The should have added 120 and I don't remember seeing one. Must
> have been mandatory for funding the building. Not being available 24/7
> really is a big down side to this location.
>
> I would not require a business to install EV locations but I would like
it
> if they did it on their own. I put in a Avcon and it has been used
several
> times by local drivers at night. I offered parking spots to my employees
> with free charging and no one was interested.
>
> I have been emailing and called Rick Durst at PGE. I really felt the
park
> and rides charging locations would be a huge. I have offered to sponsor
the
> 17 locations if that is what it takes to make it happen. Its not that we
> have an excess of money but I really feel this would make a difference
for
> Oregon. I would like the city of Portland to do something about the bike
> lanes being safer. I wish it was an easy fix as putting in charging
> locations.
>
> On the Park and Rides I have not heard anything and it has been a long
> time. Anyone know of another way of contacting Rick?
>
> Don
>
>
>
> Theoldcars at aol.com writes:
> >
> ...
> > An
> > employee was closing up and said I was the first vehicle they have
ever
> > seen using it.
>
> As an aside, this is exactly why I think it's counter productive to
lobby
> businesses to install EV charging - the charging spot sits there unused
> most of the time.
>
> Places like the library don't make sense for EV charging spots because
> they aren't the sort of place people spend much time at.  I'd bet that
> most people visiting the library are there for no more than 30 minutes.
> I'd also bet that most people visiting the library are already close to
> home, so if they have an EV it's either almost fully charged (just
leaving
> home) or they're almost home anyway so why bother charging here for just
> a few minutes?
>
> When I first heard about this charging spot, I wondered why they
installed
> a charging spot, and why they went with an Avcon.  I have an Avcon and I
> think Don and maybe one other person in Portland have Avcons - hardly
much
> of a "target customer base"!
>
> People generally spend most of their time at home or at work.  Most
people
> have the ability to charge at home, even if just with 120v, but most
work
> locations don't have, or don't allow, access to exterior power.
>
> I think that any lobbying efforts should go towards getting employers to
> install charging spots for employees.  I'd love to see employer
incentives
> from a group like the Energy Trust of Oregon that pay (or help pay) for
> the
> installation costs.  There might also need to be legislation that
requires
> employers to install charging spots if requested, perhaps having the
> employee (or the Energy Trust) pay some or all of the cost.
>
> Ralph
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:53:56 -0700
> From: Alan Batie <alan at batie.org>
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Hillsdale Library Charging Station
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Message-ID: <46C33DB4.9080202 at batie.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Ralph Merwin wrote:
>
> > I think that any lobbying efforts should go towards getting employers
to
> > install charging spots for employees.
>
> I agree; I raised the same issue on a new local corvallis ev list, whom
> our new mayor is even on.  The argument for them is it increases the
> visibility of EVs as an option, though I think they make even less sense
> here in Corvallis, where you can go completely across town a couple of
> times in 20 miles...
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:47:42 -0700
From: "Travis Gintz" <frodus17 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Electric motorcycle project
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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So, I'm working on converting a 1986 Honda VFR700f to electric. I've
got a complete bike and have the main chassis stripped down with only
the engine left to remove before cleaning it up and having parts
sandblasted clean.

So I'm wondering, who else on this list is building/plans on
building/knows someone who is building an electric motorcycle? I'm in
the beginning design process, and it would be nice to have some
others. I've setup a listserv for the Portland area for EM's and would
like to let people know once its set up.

I found my bike for free when I posted on Craigslist looking for a
chassis for this project. 5 people contacted me. 2 had bikes (one
donated his VFR), and the other 3 wanted to talk to me about the
project and lived in the Portland area.

So, who else is out there?

Regards,
Travis Gintz
1986 eVFR


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:59:40 -0700
From: Jerry McIntire <jerry.mcintire at comcast.net>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Better blower motors
To: oeva-list at oeva.org, tevan at yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <93EE6345-E3A0-404E-8FB5-E8276B2C5FC9 at comcast.net>
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Has anyone replaced the blower motors for Dodge TEVan motor cooling  
fans with better ones? The original ones seem to eat up brushes in  
nine months/1500 miles or so.

Any ideas appreciated!

Jerry McIntire


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:48:27 -0700
From: Jerry McIntire <jerry.mcintire at comcast.net>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Dodge TEVan for sale in Portland
To: oeva-list at oeva.org, seva at seattleeva.org
Message-ID: <4F6C91F4-A0AB-40D7-8A87-B46DAAC21BC5 at comcast.net>
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In case anyone hasn't seen it on the EV Tradin' Post, my 1993 Dodge  
TEVan is for sale because we are moving to Wisconsin. Asking $14,000,  
it has NiCad batteries, range of 55 miles, top speed of 70, and seats  
for 5 along with great cargo capacity.

Roy Lemeur is working on improved blower motors for the cooling fans.  
Everything works except the AC.

Full info at:  http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/951

Jerry McIntire
503-493-2597
503-866-0565


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:37:12 -0700
From: Tim Johnson <timj.pdx at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Hillsdale Library Charging Station
Cc: oeva-list at oeva.org
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I was at the Sunset Transit Center this evening and I found an outlet
(110V). I had looked for them before and had not found any. Once I knew
where to look I found no less than 12! They are strategically placed so
that with a 30 ft cord you can use any one of about a half dozen spots.
I definitely plan on using them in the future!

Mark Freidberg wrote:
> Hi Pat & Everyone,
>  
> As of last week, the charger was still there. I haven't charged with
> it so can't be sure it is functional, but was able to elicit some
> voice prompts from the unit a couple years back when first verifying
> its exact location. 
>  
> The Hillsdale library has a covered parking area on the lower level.
> The charger is attached to a concrete wall at the head of one of the
> parking spaces.
>  
> Occasionally I'll strike up a conversation with library staff, letting
> them know that an EV is parked in the designated space. The hope being
> that reminders will help prevent decommissioning of the charger.
>  
> Mark
>  
> *//* 
> *//* 
> */patrick0101 at gmail.com <mailto:patrick0101 at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>      
>     The OEVA resources page says there is a charging station at the
>     Hillsdale library.  Anyone know if it is still there & functional?
>      
>     If there is no current info., I can check it out.  This on is not
>     on the evchargernews <http://evchargernews/> list or the
>     pluginmap.org <http://pluginmap.org/> map.
>      
>     Regards,
>     Pat
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:16:44 -0700
From: R Olson <rolson at gmail.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Images from EV Awareness day
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