From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 23:21:48 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:21:48 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Revenge of the Electric Car
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809012321u58a6cdbds5b99c0b0c8a42822@mail.gmail.com>

"Revenge of the Electric Car," a documentary by the team that created the
hit "Who Killed the Electric Car?," should reach theaters in 2009, filmmaker
Chris Paine said.

Details are thin at this point, but Paine said the movie will chronicle the
work major automakers are doing to get a second generation of electric cars
on the road.
-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From paburkey at juno.com  Tue Sep  2 08:58:18 2008
From: paburkey at juno.com (Paul A Burkey)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:58:18 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Please come and help at the Alternative Energy &
	Sustainable Living Show out at the Washington County
	Fairgrounds this weekend.
Message-ID: <20080902.085821.3784.5.paburkey@juno.com>

Hi,Please come and help at the Alternative Energy & Sustainable Living
Show out at the Washington County Fairgrounds this weekend.Come by and
help for 2 or 3 hours!  Friday 1 PM to 7 PM, 1 PM to 4 PM or 4 PM to PM,
or a two hour time.Saturday 10 AM to 7 PM, 10 AM to 1 PM or 1 PM to 4 PM
or 4 PM to 7 PM, or a two hour time.Sunday 11 AM to 5 PM, 11 AM to 2 PM,
or 2 PM to 5 PM, or a two hour time.You can ride MAX or drive and there
is free parking!Thank you, Paul BurkeyOngoing Events Chair
____________________________________________________________
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From nickgaladay at msn.com  Tue Sep  2 22:44:30 2008
From: nickgaladay at msn.com (Nick Galaday)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:44:30 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] And we have another player
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1220382004.80069.oeva-list@oeva.org>
References: <mailman.15.1220382004.80069.oeva-list@oeva.org>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV7FE6AD7FC27310A889A3FBD5E0@phx.gbl>

Take a look at the Fisker-Karma PHEV, from Finland via Silicon Valley by
2009. And another green stock tip.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/SuperModels/GearUpForTheGasFr
eeCar.aspx?OCID=eml_msnnl_6009.13.5.35&REFCD=emmsnnl_6009.13.5.35


Nick Galaday
Vernonia, OR 
 
Energy Conservation 
	Saves More Than Energy!


From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  3 12:42:17 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Service Technican Position open at Eco-Motion
Message-ID: <375947.36510.qm@web110509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

  Here's a message from the folks at Eco-Motion.  Please contact Pete directly.

Cheers,
Tim
OEVA Chair



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Pete Barnhouse <barnhousep at eco-motion.com>
To: oeva- at bad-seed.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 1:28:53 PM
Subject: OEVA.org: tim_kutscha_yahoo.com

feedback:
   Hi, we are lookinig for a service dept. person to
   service and repair our electric vehicles. Our current person is  
moving out of town in 2 weeks. If you have any ideas, please contact me.
   Thanks you very much,
   Pete Barnhouse
   General Manager
   Eco-Motion
  barnhousep at eco-motion.com
   503-936-8779 cell



      
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From Theoldcars at aol.com  Wed Sep  3 23:16:52 2008
From: Theoldcars at aol.com (Theoldcars at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 02:16:52 EDT
Subject: [Oeva-list] A great site
Message-ID: <be5.3c680ff6.35f0d754@aol.com>

This is a good link that came from one of the  EV groups I am a member of. 
The whole site is very interesting and done very  well. This chapter at the link 
below is a must see.
 
 _http://www.chrismartenson.com/peak_oil_ (http
://www.chrismartenson.com/peak_oil) 
 
I highly recommend this is sent to everyone  you can.
 
Don Blazer





**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
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From pitts.robbie at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  4 12:50:28 2008
From: pitts.robbie at yahoo.com (Robbie Pitts)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] job placement
Message-ID: <937878.2666.qm@web59902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

my name is Robbie Pitts.  I am moving to Portland Oregon from Asheville N.C.  I would like to find a automotive conversion job.  I have experience in gas and liquid fuel conversions on my own car and my friends cars.  I also have six months of education at tech school in automotive fuel systems.  My current job is electrician assistant and have learned about industrial wiring including solar and electronically controlled systems.  I also have a novice background in electronics.  I am a hard worker and believe strongly that we should move away from combustion engine technology because it pollutes the environment. If there are any jobs available or if anyone just needs a good assistant e mail me at 
robbie4000000 at yahoo.com 
or call at
919-274-8304
thank you very much
Robbie Pitts


      


From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  4 19:44:13 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:44:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] More Info on EVent this weekend
Message-ID: <987633.87532.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

  The EVent out at the Washington County Fairgrounds is going to be great!  Oregon State University is bringing their large solar trailer with fold-out solar panels and we get to plug into it to charge our EVs.  The EVent is free and parking is free too.  You can get all the details on the Show at the following link:

http://www.wampromotions.com/Events.html

Big thanks to those who are willing to attend the booth during this weekend.  Gary and I will have our vehicles there.  For those of you who are attending the booth, here's a FAQ on our vehicles (from evalbum.com):

Gary's Honda Insight
http://www.evalbum.com/461.html
(Gary has upgraded to lithium batteries)

Tim's Porsche 914
http://www.evalbum.com/1137

Even if you can't attend the table, I hope a bunch of you can come out and support us.  Have a great weekend!

Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair


      
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From paburkey at juno.com  Fri Sep  5 08:36:03 2008
From: paburkey at juno.com (Paul A Burkey)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:36:03 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Alternative Energy & Sustainable Living Show out at the
	Washington County Fairgrounds this weekend!
Message-ID: <20080905.083604.3784.13.paburkey@juno.com>

Hi,

Come see Hydrogen car, and solar array to charge the electric vehicles.
Also (MCEV) plans to have 3 to 4 cars and a few scooters. 

Thank you, 
Paul Burkey
Ongoing Events Chair
____________________________________________________________
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 11:59:55 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:59:55 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Honda Insight V2
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809051159h1765377fqd5176d1df5444185@mail.gmail.com>

http://tinyurl.com/5vyytr

Hopefully there will be PHEV kits for them when they come out.

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From alan at batie.org  Fri Sep  5 12:08:59 2008
From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:08:59 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Honda Insight V2
In-Reply-To: <8c28d7b50809051159h1765377fqd5176d1df5444185@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c28d7b50809051159h1765377fqd5176d1df5444185@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48C183CB.3000509@batie.org>

patrick0101 at gmail.com wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/5vyytr
> 
> Hopefully there will be PHEV kits for them when they come out.

I believe the honda system does not allow for electic only operation, so
phev wouldn't be much benefit...
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From barnes.rick at verizon.net  Fri Sep  5 17:11:40 2008
From: barnes.rick at verizon.net (Rick Barnes)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:11:40 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: a song about electric cars
Message-ID: <006c01c90fb5$23694ad0$6a3be070$@rick@verizon.net>

 

 

From: Trudee Lunden [mailto:trudeelunden at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:38 PM
To: barnes.rick at verizon.net
Subject: a song about electric cars

 


Hello electric auto enthusiast!

I used to work at selling electric cars, and that experience inspired me.
Please take a brief moment to hear my new song "ELECTRICITY" at my site:

http://www.myspace.com/trudeelunden

Feel free to forward this to all your EAA members and friends. Let's
progress forward.

Paving the future,

Trudee Lunden

 

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From matwete at comcast.net  Fri Sep  5 22:28:42 2008
From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:28:42 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] More Info on EVent this weekend
In-Reply-To: <987633.87532.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <987633.87532.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c90fe1$6e39f4c0$4aadde40$@net>

Also, for Eastsiders, we are invited to display EVs at the Belmont Street
Fair, tomorrow, Saturday, Sep 5th.

I haven't confirmed, but I expect we need vehicles in place by 9:30am or
earlier.

The location will be at or close to Belmont and SE 34th St.,
Portland---approach on 34th from the South.

I'll be there with the 1921 Milburn Light Electric
<http://www.evalbum.com/348> .

Call if you have questions: 503-267-6465 cell

 

-Myles

 

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Kutscha
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:44 PM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: [Oeva-list] More Info on EVent this weekend

 

Hi All,

  The EVent out at the Washington County Fairgrounds is going to be great!
Oregon State University is bringing their large solar trailer with fold-out
solar panels and we get to plug into it to charge our EVs.  The EVent is
free and parking is free too.  You can get all the details on the Show at
the following link:

http://www.wampromotions.com/Events.html

Big thanks to those who are willing to attend the booth during this weekend.
Gary and I will have our vehicles there.  For those of you who are attending
the booth, here's a FAQ on our vehicles (from evalbum.com):

Gary's Honda Insight
http://www.evalbum.com/461.html
(Gary has upgraded to lithium batteries)

Tim's Porsche 914
http://www.evalbum.com/1137

Even if you can't attend the table, I hope a bunch of you can come out and
support us.  Have a great weekend!

Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair

 

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 23:01:52 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 23:01:52 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Toyota throws hat into all-electric ring
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809052301i78f92b65q7e09965c6f3f3c67@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/03/toyota-throws-hat-into-all-electric-ring/

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From oeva_treas at verizon.net  Sat Sep  6 00:25:25 2008
From: oeva_treas at verizon.net (OEVA Treasurer)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:25:25 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] More Info on EVent this weekend
In-Reply-To: <987633.87532.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <987633.87532.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c90ff1$bb427700$31c76500$@net>

Anyone want to sell some OEVA tee shirts and bumper stickers at the booth?

 

Rick Barnes

OEVA Treas

 

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Kutscha
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:44 PM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: [Oeva-list] More Info on EVent this weekend

 

Hi All,

  The EVent out at the Washington County Fairgrounds is going to be great!
Oregon State University is bringing their large solar trailer with fold-out
solar panels and we get to plug into it to charge our EVs.  The EVent is
free and parking is free too.  You can get all the details on the Show at
the following link:

http://www.wampromotions.com/Events.html

Big thanks to those who are willing to attend the booth during this weekend.
Gary and I will have our vehicles there.  For those of you who are attending
the booth, here's a FAQ on our vehicles (from evalbum.com):

Gary's Honda Insight
http://www.evalbum.com/461.html
(Gary has upgraded to lithium batteries)

Tim's Porsche 914
http://www.evalbum.com/1137

Even if you can't attend the table, I hope a bunch of you can come out and
support us.  Have a great weekend!

Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair

 

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From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  6 08:04:19 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 08:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] OEVA Monthly Meeting on September 11th,
	7pm at World Trade Center
Message-ID: <623442.34335.qm@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello OEVA folks,

It's time for another monthly meeting this coming Thursday, September 11th.  
Everyone, member or not, is welcome to attend our meetings.  We'll gather
as usual at 7:00PM for show-and-tell of EVs and start the meeting at 7:30PM.
We meet at Two World Trade Center at 1st and Salmon in SW Portland.
The courtyard will be open to display vehicles and provide some charging.
The street-side charging will also be available just across 1st Ave.

Agenda for the general meeting:

7:30
- Welcome new people (logistics like bathroom, membership dues, T-shirts, flyers, e-mail list)
- Review past EVents and upcoming EVents
- Updates on member EVs
- Break into sub-groups for discussion
 - Charging stations - Jeff Kim
 - Small EV business - Jim Berry
 - EV conversion garage - Fred Trient
 - Newcomer questions - Michael Drewry
9:00
- End the meeting so we can get home or look at EVs

Please feel free to bring information, questions and vehicles!
Again, non-OEVA-members are welcome to attend!

Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair


      
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From Todd at toddsimport.com  Sat Sep  6 10:23:03 2008
From: Todd at toddsimport.com (Todd Weedman)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:23:03 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Consumer Introduction to Alternative Fuel Vehicles
Message-ID: <001c01c91045$38acb400$0701a8c0@backoffice>

Hello OEVA members,



We're having another introduction class to alternative fuel vehicles

 

The purpose is to empower consumers through education.

Giving them the benefit of considering the broad range of options.

Our firm belief is that the next 5 years will see a strong movement towards

energy diversification - especially in regards to personal transportation.

More Hybrids, Plug-In Hybrids, Honda is ramping up production of Natural Gas

Civics and Electric vehicles will move from the hobbyist garage to mass production.

 

Each presentation lasts about 45 minutes, providing an overview the of

benefits and limitations of both current and developing technologies.

 

When and Where:

Next Saturday, September 13th: 10:00am - 2:00pm. (Presented several times)

It will be at the Beaverton Joe's Sports

at 3485 SW Cedar Hills Blvd (6 blocks north of Canyon Rd)

 

I want to emphasize...

No prior knowledge is required and there will not be a test.

Technical information is limited to details that complement the discussion.

 

There is to be a representation of Hybrids, Electric and Natural Gas vehicles.

We encourage and welcome participation of current owners of Alternative Fuel Vehicles.

Please come down and share your experience with others.

 

Our Goal: Advocating Change Through Education

 

Sincerely,



Todd Weedman, owner
Todd's Import Automotive
17607 Pilkington Rd
Lake Oswego OR  97035
503-635-1339
Todd at ToddsImport.com


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From oeva_treas at verizon.net  Sun Sep  7 10:08:32 2008
From: oeva_treas at verizon.net (OEVA Treasurer)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:08:32 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Considering EV conversion of my vehicle
Message-ID: <000301c9110c$5bcab1e0$136015a0$@net>

OEVA:

Any advice for Chris?

Rick Barnes
OEVA Treas

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:boomerbeau at comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 4:36 PM
To: 
Subject: Considering EV conversion of my vehicle

Rick,
I own a 2000 Nissan Quest mini-van and would like to consider converting 
it to from gas to electric. Is it a feasible consideration? I 'd like to 
at least top out at 45 mph.

Are there technicians available (I live in Portland, Oregon) that can 
give me a quote on such a conversion?
Thanks in advance for your help and advice in this matter.
Chris


From performanceaev at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  7 13:50:09 2008
From: performanceaev at yahoo.com (Jim Berry)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] EV shop for enthusiasts
Message-ID: <42024.12298.qm@web46403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hello all, I would like to get your input on a question. I am having a hard time committing to rental of a small warehouse space to house my EV business. I see way to many opportunties out there for myself as well as for others wishing to start EV oriented businesses that might want to shre space or for individuals wanting to rent space outside of their homes in order to build their own EV's.
I am meeting with a building owner on Wednesday about leasing a large building, my question to the membership is: are any people out there that would be interested in renting a space to utilize for building or working on an EV and do you think that with more advertising that there might be a steady stream of individuals? It would include access to mig/tig, plasma, milling machine capabilities, etc. What do you think woud be an acceptable daily rate for rental of a stall to individuals?
?


      
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 00:17:11 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 00:17:11 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] First Tesla Model S info
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809080017n2a28897fi7cb4aec84fe8f079@mail.gmail.com>

This is the first sketch that I have seen of the Model S sedan (or saloon as
it is known in the UK).

Also the first I have seen that there may be three models:

1) $60,000 with a 160-mile range
2) $68,000 with a 220-mile range
3) To Be Priced 300-mile version

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/234774/
-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 16:03:23 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:03:23 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] =?windows-1252?q?=93e-mobility_Berlin=94?=
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809081603n1195257axe3cf6847408518e4@mail.gmail.com>

500 charging stations to be installed in Berlin

http://tinyurl.com/56sybe

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From oeva_treas at verizon.net  Tue Sep  9 05:52:53 2008
From: oeva_treas at verizon.net (OEVA Treasurer)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:52:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] New OEVA Treasurer??
Message-ID: <002a01c9127a$f9c70690$ed5513b0$@net>

OEVA:

 

I have been treasurer for over 4 years, and was wondering if anyone else
would like to have a turn.

 

Pre-requisites:

-          Need Microsoft Access computer software

 

 

Rick Barnes

OEVA Treas

 

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From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Tue Sep  9 15:57:24 2008
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:57:24 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: 2008 AFV Day Odyssey
Message-ID: <9ECCD1FF821C4247B03C280FE8EBAEE36E0418B1A2@APEXMAIL.corp.dom>

 I was asked to forward this information to the group, in hopes that some members in the EV club might be willing to have some electric vehicles at the event.  I think Paul was the event coordinator, so If that is the case, Paul, could you see about coordinating people to attend this event from OEVA?

Rick Durst
503-464-7631


>>> Stan Sumich <Stanley.Sumich at pcc.edu> 9/5/2008 10:15 AM >>>
As you may know, Portland Community College (PCC) is one of several locations throughout the nation that is hosting the ?2008 National AFV Day Odyssey? on from 9:30 AM to 2:00 PM on Friday, October 3, 2008.  We are extremely excited about having the opportunity to host this event along with the sponsorship of Oregon Department of Energy and Columbia-Willamette Clean Cities Coalition, Inc.

Alternative Fuel Vehicles (AFVs) are still a well kept secret despite the growing number of manufacturers who produce these vehicles for the consumer market, and despite governmental incentives for using AFVs in fleets for industry, businesses, and other commercial enterprises.

PCC, as a member of the National Alternative Fuels Training Consortium (NAFTC), wants to spread the exciting news that AFVs are a positive transportation choice for fleets, as well as the individual consumer.

We also want to bring together others in the AFV field to help build collaborations, focus attention on the good work they are providing, and be a springboard for further dialogue for the AFV cause.

We are seeking out those who are committed to alternative fuels and AFVs, cleaner air, and energy independence to participate in this event on a local level.  More importantly, we hope the synergy of our partnerships will add excitement (as well as expertise and support) to make this one-day event a dazzling display of how powerful the choice to use AFVs can be.

As such, to be successful, we need everyone?s support.  Together, we can let decision makers, fleet owners, automotive workforce, and consumers alike, experience the excitement about Alternative Fuel Vehicles, and:

         ?  See the trends
         ?  Find the options
         ?  Meet the movers
         ?  Explore ownership opportunities
         ?  Discover AFV training and employment possibilities

To meet these criteria, I am attempting to determine if your organization can provide Alternative Fuel vehicles, or related equipment, products and/or brochures to be displayed at PCC during the ?2008 National AFV Day Odyssey?.
Additionally, I would like to know if you or your staff would be interested in making a short presentation (approximately 30 - 45 minutes) regarding Alternative Fuel Vehicles or related equipment and products.

Due to the very short time frame between now and October 3rd, I need to know by no later than Thursday, September 11th if you are interested in
participating.   I look forward to discussing with you, any specific
needs
your organization may have for participating in this event.

Please don?t hesitate to contact me at (503) 518-3083 or by email at stanley.sumich at pcc.edu if you have any questions.


Stan Sumich, Coordinator
2008 National AFV Day Odyssey
Portland Community College




From rmerwin at aracnet.com  Tue Sep  9 16:57:00 2008
From: rmerwin at aracnet.com (Ralph Merwin)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Battery boxes for sale
Message-ID: <200809092357.m89Nv02L019904@onyx.spiritone.com>


I have several aluminum battery boxes to sell.

Four of them are sized for Optima Yellow Tops.  Three hold four Optimas
side-by-side, the last holds eight Optimas in two rows of four side-by-side.
The 8-Optima box has a lid.

Three other boxes are for SAFT STM-100MR NiCADs.  One holds three modules
end-to-end, one holds five side-by side, and the last holds 20 modules in
five rows of four modules.  This last box was built by SAFT for the Pivco
CitiBee vehicles (ancestor to the THink).

Pictures and rough measurements are online at:

http://picasaweb.google.com/prizmev/BatteryBoxes

I'm hoping to get rid of these rather quickly, and so am selling them at
the scrap metal price of 80 cents per pound.  Weights are listed on first
picture for each box on the page above.

I'll be taking these to the scrap metal recycler this weekend, so if you're
interested in anything let me know ASAP!

Ralph

From noramylet at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  9 22:04:32 2008
From: noramylet at yahoo.com (Nora Mylet)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] (no subject)
Message-ID: <331693.67372.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have a 1990 converted Ford Ranger I am trying to sell in the Portland area.   I have tried Craigslist and EV Tradin Post. Any one have any other suggestions of good spots to try and sell it. 

Greg Mylet


      

From tony at notebene.net  Tue Sep  9 22:39:04 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:39:04 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <331693.67372.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <331693.67372.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48C75D78.4020703@notebene.net>

Posting the link to EV Trading Post ad on this list would be a good 
start....
-Tony

Nora Mylet wrote:
> I have a 1990 converted Ford Ranger I am trying to sell in the Portland area.   I have tried Craigslist and EV Tradin Post. Any one have any other suggestions of good spots to try and sell it. 
>
> Greg Mylet
>
>
>       
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Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com


From ken at peakfoto.com  Tue Sep  9 23:33:48 2008
From: ken at peakfoto.com (Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:33:48 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Oeva-list Digest, 200 apm meter n shunt
Message-ID: <7CC2B9D535A34AA3905A1A0079FBCC6E.MAI@exovian.net>

the motor shop in corvallis has a set for $50, it s a simposon dash type meter..


From oregongreenproject at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 16:59:14 2008
From: oregongreenproject at gmail.com (OregonGreen Project)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:59:14 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] I am interested in collaborating to establish
	product/service distribution using EVs
Message-ID: <380ca08b0809101659j13bfb2fdh65d0e9f626b3e8eb@mail.gmail.com>

Please contact me if you are interested.  Thank you.

David
emailizez4me at gmail.com
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From rmerwin at aracnet.com  Wed Sep 10 18:16:47 2008
From: rmerwin at aracnet.com (Ralph Merwin)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:16:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Battery boxes for sale
In-Reply-To: <200809092357.m89Nv02L019904@onyx.spiritone.com> from "Ralph
	Merwin" at Sep 09, 2008 04:57:00 PM
Message-ID: <200809110116.m8B1GlG9031339@onyx.spiritone.com>



Thanks for the interest.  The battery boxes have all been sold.

Ralph


Ralph Merwin writes:
> 
> 
> I have several aluminum battery boxes to sell.
> 
> Four of them are sized for Optima Yellow Tops.  Three hold four Optimas
> side-by-side, the last holds eight Optimas in two rows of four side-by-side.
> The 8-Optima box has a lid.
> 
> Three other boxes are for SAFT STM-100MR NiCADs.  One holds three modules
> end-to-end, one holds five side-by side, and the last holds 20 modules in
> five rows of four modules.  This last box was built by SAFT for the Pivco
> CitiBee vehicles (ancestor to the THink).
> 
> Pictures and rough measurements are online at:
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/prizmev/BatteryBoxes
> 
> I'm hoping to get rid of these rather quickly, and so am selling them at
> the scrap metal price of 80 cents per pound.  Weights are listed on first
> picture for each box on the page above.
> 
> I'll be taking these to the scrap metal recycler this weekend, so if you're
> interested in anything let me know ASAP!
> 
> Ralph
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
> 


From oeva_treas at verizon.net  Thu Sep 11 01:16:57 2008
From: oeva_treas at verizon.net (OEVA Treasurer)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:16:57 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] New OEVA Treasurer??
In-Reply-To: <002a01c9127a$f9c70690$ed5513b0$@net>
References: <002a01c9127a$f9c70690$ed5513b0$@net>
Message-ID: <000001c913e6$c24f42f0$46edc8d0$@net>

Hey don't everyone jump up at once.

 

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of OEVA Treasurer
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:53 AM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: [Oeva-list] New OEVA Treasurer??

 

OEVA:

 

I have been treasurer for over 4 years, and was wondering if anyone else
would like to have a turn.

 

Pre-requisites:

-          Need Microsoft Access computer software

 

 

Rick Barnes

OEVA Treas

 

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 10:34:57 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:34:57 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] EV and Solar at the Alternative Energy and Sustainable
	Living Show
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809121034p5e53d8c0i66a3a4de3d9f6925@mail.gmail.com>

OEVA had EVs on display at the "Alternative Energy and Sustainable Living
Show" last weekend. The OSU Solar Trailer was there too and charging up our
EVs. You can read a blog entry about it and the other two transportation
alternatives here:

http://tinyurl.com/5x7uwn

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From javabrewery at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 12 10:50:00 2008
From: javabrewery at yahoo.com (Sonny N.)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Portland to electric car maker BYD Auto: Build your car
	here. Please!
Message-ID: <730248.95729.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Oregon lawmakers are trying to get a Chinese Electric Car maker setup a manufacturing facility and distribution hub here in Portland.

http://tinyurl.com/52v6yk

If it comes to fruition, it would be a wonderful boost to the local economy.

Thanks.

Sonny
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From performanceaev at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 13 09:07:13 2008
From: performanceaev at yahoo.com (Jim Berry)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Treasurer position
Message-ID: <950823.44332.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Rick, 
?
???? I feel your pain in regards to the response to the treasurer position. If no one voluteers to take the position off of your hands I will assume it for the next year. Let me explain why I am not pursuing it with gusto, and this may offend some people reading this. When involved with something I feel strongly about, in this case EV's and?I have a goal, I tend to push things... hard, ?and when people are not moving at a brisk pace to get things done, I tend to move them to the side and forge ahead as I have no need for feet draggers. I realize this position is for treasurer, but regardless, I tend to take things over and I am not PC about it, which is why I tend to shy away from being part of the established heiarchy. I tend to surround myself with people that don't even recognize that there is a box let alone conceive of thinking out of one.
???? The fact that no one has come forward?(that I have seen) to volunteer for this position tells a lot about how vested the membership is in the OEVA. Unless we put forward a great deal of effort, we will?continue to be a little backwater EV club in a state that has major aspirations to be a green leader. I feel we?should be, and have the ability to be a mover and shaker in at least a few facets of the?blossoming EV industry.?After this seemingly long ramble, I have a lot of strings I need to grab ahold of and weave together, but I think it would behoove the club to have a treasurer and it appears that you are not so into the position anymore, so I will weave another loose end into my projects if you need it, if you and the membership can put up with me.


      
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From richardturnock at comcast.net  Sat Sep 13 20:05:23 2008
From: richardturnock at comcast.net (Richard Turnock)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:05:23 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Electric Evolution
Message-ID: <DAC8555F06244412B3416C2010595794@RichardPC>

 

I read the article about Better Place getting Israel and Denmark to sign-up
to have electric car network of charging stations and battery quick-change
stations. Then I saw an article about a Ford executive going around
promoting their new, more efficient combustion engine.

What a contrast!

Like trying to make a better buggy whip when the combustion engine was
taking over.

This time it's a business model by Better Place based on selling electricity
like cell phone minutes using charging stations and battery exchange
stations.  The key strategic element is the software network to manage the
information about the electricity usage.  

Ford is living in the industrial age and Better Place is living in the
information age.

Take Care

Richard

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From garry at europa.com  Sun Sep 14 10:20:58 2008
From: garry at europa.com (garry painter)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:20:58 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Electric Evolution
In-Reply-To: <DAC8555F06244412B3416C2010595794@RichardPC>
References: <DAC8555F06244412B3416C2010595794@RichardPC>
Message-ID: <B6C5F5A9-D745-481A-90AF-A043D0F5A5A8@europa.com>

I'd have characterized it more like 23,000 engineers trying to make  
the pig look better, only they were more confused than usual, and  
shoved the tube up the pigs ass. "There! That makes the pig look  
better!"

(It's all about lipstick this week ;)

I drove to the coast last month with my sister in a new rental van.  
The hour long drive gave me an inkling of what all the electrical  
engineers in Detroit have been working on for the last few years. The  
dome light stretched for more than half the length of the van, and  
looked like something out of Star Wars.

g

On Sep 13, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turnock wrote:

>
>
> I read the article about Better Place getting Israel and Denmark to  
> sign-up to have electric car network of charging stations and  
> battery quick-change stations. Then I saw an article about a Ford  
> executive going around promoting their new, more efficient  
> combustion engine.
>
> What a contrast!
>
> Like trying to make a better buggy whip when the combustion engine  
> was taking over.
>



> This time it?s a business model by Better Place based on selling  
> electricity like cell phone minutes using charging stations and  
> battery exchange stations.  The key strategic element is the  
> software network to manage the information about the electricity  
> usage.
>
> Ford is living in the industrial age and Better Place is living in  
> the information age.
>
> Take Care
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list

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From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 14 13:28:18 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:28:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Call for OEVA Presentations
Message-ID: <423246.77923.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

   Do you have EV expertise and would you be willing give a 30 minute presentation at a future OEVA meeting?  Do you know of someone with EV expertise that I could contact regarding a possible future presentation?  We've had two meetings with sub-group gatherings and I'd like to add some more talks to make the meetings interesting.  
  Over the past few months, several questions and concerns have arisen regarding the care and feeding of lead-acid battery packs.  People have been reporting limited range, not understanding the Peukert effect and wondering how to extend the life of the pack.  If you or someone you know could share their knowledge with the group, please let me know.  Other EV-relevant talks are also welcome.  Thanks!

Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair


      
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 17:11:17 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:11:17 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] YAEVS - Yet Another EV Start-up - Luxury Electric
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809141711s7590bd73v3a4466d780fd1a18@mail.gmail.com>

http://luxuryelectric.com/

They are planning 4 wheel freeway speed cars from $75k to $20k.

They're pre-VC funding, so don't hold your breath.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/08/27/luxury-electric-announces-full-size-electric-car-trans-continent/

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From richardturnock at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 12:32:09 2008
From: richardturnock at comcast.net (Richard Turnock)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:32:09 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] "Electric Power Cars" the business
Message-ID: <AEAE1C4A08A14E10B8F4B753D827782D@RichardPC>

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Get everything you need to make an electric car. The Electric Powered Cars
program is a piece of software with reviews of the main guides online
teaching you how to make an electric car, as well as instructions for
converting your car. This version is the first release on CNET Download.com.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

They have 31 downloads.  This seems to be a marketing give-away to get more
business selling online training.  

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From ken at peakfoto.com  Tue Sep 16 12:42:30 2008
From: ken at peakfoto.com (Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:42:30 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Oeva-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 17
Message-ID: <BA5DCE44A7EB4B199C6A91EEB225D0BD.MAI@exovian.net>

whats the url for this..

Today's Topics:

   1. "Electric Power Cars" the business (Richard Turnock)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:32:09 -0700
From: "Richard Turnock" <richardturnock at comcast.net>
Subject: [Oeva-list] "Electric Power Cars" the business
To: <oeva-list at oeva.org>
Message-ID: <AEAE1C4A08A14E10B8F4B753D827782D at RichardPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Get everything you need to make an electric car. The Electric Powered Cars
program is a piece of software with reviews of the main guides online
teaching you how to make an electric car, as well as instructions for
converting your car. This version is the first release on CNET Download.com.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

 

They have 31 downloads.  This seems to be a marketing give-away to get more
business selling online training.  

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From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 16 13:12:03 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:12:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] URL for Conversion Kit Instructions
Message-ID: <240696.59653.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The free download basically points you to this URL:

http://www.gas2electric.net/

I splurged today and purchased the $50 conversion manual.  It comes in .PDF
form.  It contains a bunch of good information, but it's only 41 pages long
and I found Mike Brown's "Convert It!" better, albeit a bit older.

The advantage of the $50 subscription is that it's an electronic book that's
continually updated so you can get the latest version whenever they come out.

Unless you're a complete beginner, I would steer away from this book.
I can bring my copy to the next OEVA meeting if you wish.

Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair


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From: Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video <ken at peakfoto.com>
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:42:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Oeva-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 17

whats the url for this..

Today's Topics:

   1. "Electric Power Cars" the business (Richard Turnock)


      
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From rmerwin at aracnet.com  Tue Sep 16 17:34:14 2008
From: rmerwin at aracnet.com (Ralph Merwin)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Large capacitors available
Message-ID: <200809170034.m8H0YEvD013119@onyx.spiritone.com>


I have 14, 40MF 370VAC rated capacitors available for free.  These were
used in an "ugly box" charger several years ago.  The charger was
disassembled some time ago and now I'm looking for a home for the caps.

These are fairly large, liquid-filled caps made by Ronken.  The number
on the side says Ronken 76E79406K80D.

As I mentioned above, these are available for free, but you have to take
them all.

Ralph

503-284-1104


From rmerwin at aracnet.com  Tue Sep 16 18:16:53 2008
From: rmerwin at aracnet.com (Ralph Merwin)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Large capacitors available
In-Reply-To: <200809170034.m8H0YEvD013119@onyx.spiritone.com> from "Ralph
	Merwin" at Sep 16, 2008 05:34:14 PM
Message-ID: <200809170116.m8H1GrSL014117@onyx.spiritone.com>


The caps have already been spoken for.

Ralph


Ralph Merwin writes:
> 
> 
> I have 14, 40MF 370VAC rated capacitors available for free.  These were
> used in an "ugly box" charger several years ago.  The charger was
> disassembled some time ago and now I'm looking for a home for the caps.
> 
> These are fairly large, liquid-filled caps made by Ronken.  The number
> on the side says Ronken 76E79406K80D.
> 
> As I mentioned above, these are available for free, but you have to take
> them all.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 503-284-1104
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
> 


From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 23:18:13 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:18:13 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Cascadia Center's "Beyond Oil" Conference Wrap-Up
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809162318y6fff9768y4d5469a6b5db2bc6@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.cascadiaprospectus.org/2008/09/beyond_oil_conference_wrapup.php

A crowd of 500 key influencers from the private sector, government, academia
and the media filled Microsoft's large meeting facility in Redmond for the
Sept. 4-5 conference organized by Discovery Institute's Cascadia
Center, "Beyond
Oil: Transforming
Transportation<http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=2591>."
Gripping presentations by former CIA Director James Woolsey, electric car
systems entrepreneur Shai Agassi of Better Place, and Microsoft's
sustainability guru Rob Bernard.
...

Cascadia Prospectus<http://www.cascadiaprospectus.org/2008/09/beyond_oil_conference_wrapup.php>:
"'Beyond Oil' Media Coverage, During And After The Event
Last updated 9/16/08.

"Only Intervention Of Electric Car Can Break Oil
Addiction<http://www.discovery.org/a/7121>,"
David Seago, Tacoma News Tribune, 9/14/08.

"Making A Bold Case For Moving Our Economy Beyond
Oil<http://www.discovery.org/a/7101>,"
Glenn R. Pascall, Puget Sound Business Journal, 9/12/08.

"Future Of Transportation, Funding and Climate
Change<http://www.discovery.org/a/7151>,"
TVW, 9/12/08. (Slade Gorton, National Transportation Policy Project; Paul
Brubaker, USDOT's Research & Innovative Technology Administration; David
Kaplan, V2Green; WSDOT Sec. Paula Hammond; Bill Rogers, Idaho National
Laboratory; Neil Schuster, American Assn. of Motor Vehicles Administrators.
Preceded by a presentation from Admiral Dennis Blair, Securing America's
Future Energy.)

Rob Bernard Video: "The Road Ahead <http://www.discovery.org/a/7071>," TVW,
9/11/08. (Microsoft's chief environmental strategist talks transportation,
technology and environment. Preceded by Don Foley's update on national 'X
Prize' car rally, King County Executive Ron Sims, and welcoming remarks from
Discovery Institute's President Bruce Chapman).

"Electric Cars, Biofuels Compete For Attention At Cascadia
Conference<http://www.evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=19152>,"
EV World, 9/10/08.

"Plug-in Cars Give Owners A Real Jolt Of
Satisfaction<http://www.discovery.org/a/7031>,"
Debera Carlton Harrell, Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 9/9/08.

James Woolsey Video: "The Case For Change" <http://www.discovery.org/a/7041>,
TVW, 9/9/08. (Former CIA Director Woolsey solo, with introduction from U.S.
Rep. Dave Reichert; then joined by Chelsea Sexton, K.C. Golden; and followed
by Peter Jackson).

"The Zen Of ZENN: Clean
Driving<http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/oped/2008/09/08/the_zen_of_zenn_no_gas_needed>,"
David Seago, *Inside The Editorial Page* blog, Tacoma News Tribune, 9/8/09.

"Beyond Oil: Energy Rush TV At
Microsoft<http://energyrushtv.blogspot.com/2008/09/beyond-oil-energy-rush-tv-at-microsoft.html>,"
Energy Rush TV blog, 9/8/09.

"Biofuel Musses Up Electric Car
Fest<http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2008163180_sundaybuzz07.html>,"
Angel Gonzalez, Seattle Times, 9/7/09.

"The American Politics Behind Rising Gas
Prices<http://www.discovery.org/a/7001>,"
Don Cayo, Vancouver Sun, 9/6/08.

"Former CIA Boss Says Americans Are Funding The Bad
Guys<http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/globalization/archive/2008/09/06/former-cia-boss-says-americans-are-funding-the-bad-guys.aspx>,"
Don Cayo, *Globalization - For Better Or Worse* blog, Vancouver Sun, 9/6/08.

"Beyond Oil <http://clearcoolhead.blogspot.com/2008/09/beyond-oil.html>,"
Eric Berman, *Random Political Commentary* blog, 9/6/08.

"American Business Driving A New Car Culture<http://www.discovery.org/a/6991>,"
Don Cayo, Vancouver Sun, 9/5/08.

"Report From The Trenches: 'Beyond Oil' Conference In Redmond,
Wash.<http://blogs.edmunds.com/greencaradvisor/2008/09/report-from-the-trenches-beyond-oil-conference-in-redmond-wash.html>,"
Gordon Feller (CEO, Urban Age Institute), in Green Car Advisor, Edmunds.com,
9/5/08.

"Can The Developing World Dodge The Rich World's
Mistakes?<http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/globalization/archive/2008/09/05/can-the-developing-world-dodge-the-rich-world-s-mistakes.aspx>,"
Don Cayo, *Globalization - For Better Or Worse* blog, Vancouver Sun, 9/5/08.

"CEOs: Surprise Backers Of Cap-and-Trade; Obama, McCain Like Electric
Cars<http://www.washingtonceo.com/home/blogs/post/article/313/ceos-surpri.html>,"
Aaron Corvin, *Washington CEO* blog, 9/5/08.

"Thank God For HOV
Lanes<http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/oped/2008/09/05/thank_god_for_hov_lanes>,"
David Seago, *Inside The Editorial Page* blog, Tacoma News Tribune, 9/5/08.

"Expert: Peak Oil Is Real, Electrifying Transportation Is The
Answer<http://www.washingtonceo.com/home/blogs/post/article/313/expert-peak.html>,"
Aaron Corvin, *Washington CEO* blog, 9/4/08.

"Beyond Oil <http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/oped/2008/09/04/beyond_oil>,"
David Seago, *Inside The Editorial Page* blog, Tacoma News Tribune, 9/4/08.

*"Beyond Oil" Pre-event Coverage*

"'Beyond Oil: Transforming Transportation' Conference In
Redmond<http://www.thegreenmotorist.com/index.php/beyond-oil-transforming-transportation-conference-in-redmond/>,"
Green Motorist, 9/3/08.

"Transportation Solutions To America's Oil Addiction Focus Of
Conference<http://www.theenergydaily.com/pressreleases/environmental_services/200809031500PR_NEWS_USPR_____DC31991.html>,"
Energy Daily, 9/3/03.

"Transportation Solutions To America's Oil Addiction Focus Of
Conference<http://www.forbes.com/prnewswire/feeds/prnewswire/2008/09/03/prnewswire200809031500PR_NEWS_USPR_____DC31991.html>,"
Forbes.com, 9/3/08.

"Oil-free Snohomish County? It's No Longer A Pipe
Dream<http://www.discovery.org/a/6961>,"
Steve Marshall & Bruce Agnew, Everett Herald, 9/2/08.

"Transportation: A Better Grid <http://www.discovery.org/a/6981>," Seattle
Post-Intelligencer editorial, 9/2/08.

"Northwest Could Be A Leader In Electric Transport
Systems<http://www.discovery.org/a/6951>,"
Steve Marshall & Bruce Agnew, Puget Sound Business Journal, 9/1/08.

"Big Post-oil Conference To Have Electric Cars, Bigwig
Speakers<http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/index.php?blog=7&title=big_post_oil_conference_to_have_electric&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1>,"
Jared Paben, Bellingham Herald, 8/26/08.

Dave Ross Show <http://www.discovery.org/a/6921>, KIRO-AM 710 Seattle,
8/22/08. (Guests: Steve Marshall, Anne Korin, Chelsea Sexton).

"Trucks - From Delivery Vans To Big Rigs - Need To Get Efficient
Too<http://www.discovery.org/a/6801>,"
Steve Marshall & Bruce Agnew, Puget Sound Business Journal, 8/18/08.

"Turbulence In Air Travel: What High Fuel Costs Mean To
Boeing<http://www.discovery.org/a/6531>,"
Steve Marshall & Bruce Agnew, 8/4/08.


-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 23:21:58 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:21:58 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] WSJ Video: Test Driving the Mitsubishi iMiEV Electric
	Car
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809172321rdacf2c4x426424eaeaed2bea@mail.gmail.com>

http://tinyurl.com/4jq5cf


-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 11:08:53 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:08:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Electric Drive Transportation Association Conference &
	Exposition
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809181108l43c4b739ocb9ea280a1758b2b@mail.gmail.com>

Register for the Electric Drive Transportation Association Conference &
Exposition. Conference features include a comprehensive battery, hybrid,
plug in and fuel cell electric drive program, an Energy Policy Roundtable, a
Ride & Drive, and Exposition. Visit www.edtaconference.com for details.
December 2-4, 2008 in Washington, DC.

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From mikalson2002 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 18 13:40:24 2008
From: mikalson2002 at yahoo.com (Julie Mikalson)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Port of Portland counting the Benefit of Hybrid Auto
	Imports
Message-ID: <801718.36790.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Perhaps the Port will someday express 
the local value of US EV and PHEV EXPORTS as well?

http://www.portofportland.com/PortDispatch/PortDispatch.aspx?contentFile=Issue_2008_09/Content/page6.ascx

Let's help make it happen. 


Jules

PS:?

a wee reminder: 
Policy Drafts needed in Salem by December for any legislative changes 
we wish to see - including perhaps speed amendments, short highway access for NEVs... Free Parking/Charging access at government facilities?? What else? 
Perhaps a Conversion biz incentive, or for reducing to ONE Zero Emission Vehicle?






      
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 22:44:59 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:44:59 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Nanotech Ultracapacitor Breakthrough Doubles Capacity
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809182244ib4dfd8dy99e1d88582701a97@mail.gmail.com>

A nanotech discovery by researchers from the University of Texas could
potential double the capacity of existing ultracapacitors, a rechargable
energy storage device similar to a battery.

The nano-structure is called Graphene and its potential uses include
electric vehicles and storage of wind and solar electricity.  One of the
drawbacks of wind and solar photovoltaic is the moment to moment
unpredictability.  On-site energy storage would aleviate this
unpredictability and make these renewables more utility use friendly.


http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/09/graphene-could-offer-more-efficient-energy-storage.php
-- 
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Pat
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From nevokyay at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 19 10:44:28 2008
From: nevokyay at yahoo.com (Nev Okyay)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:44:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC to 3 phase AC inverter/controller
Message-ID: <689246.33105.qm@web55101.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


>From the evalbum I could see only two such systems:
azure and siemens.  In each case you have to purchase
the inverter/motor combo together.

Is there any other options for DC to 3 phase
inverter?  In particular something that is generic
enough to be connected to any 3 phase motor.

I ask this question because for a comparable power
rating, AC motors are obtainable easily and at much
lower cost.  I am guessing that the
inverter/controllers
is probably more expensive than the DC controllers
such as Curtis.

As in the two manufacturers above (Siemens and Azure),
if the 3 phase motor is packaged together with the
controller, then there is no price advantage on the
motor anyways..

any thoughts on this?
thanks




      

From tony at notebene.net  Fri Sep 19 10:49:58 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:49:58 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC to 3 phase AC inverter/controller
In-Reply-To: <689246.33105.qm@web55101.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <689246.33105.qm@web55101.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48D3E646.6080509@notebene.net>

SynkroMotive has options in this category ....
see: www.SynkroMotive.com
--Tony

Nev Okyay wrote:
> >From the evalbum I could see only two such systems:
> azure and siemens.  In each case you have to purchase
> the inverter/motor combo together.
>
> Is there any other options for DC to 3 phase
> inverter?  In particular something that is generic
> enough to be connected to any 3 phase motor.
>
> I ask this question because for a comparable power
> rating, AC motors are obtainable easily and at much
> lower cost.  I am guessing that the
> inverter/controllers
> is probably more expensive than the DC controllers
> such as Curtis.
>
> As in the two manufacturers above (Siemens and Azure),
> if the 3 phase motor is packaged together with the
> controller, then there is no price advantage on the
> motor anyways..
>
> any thoughts on this?
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>       
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>
>
>   

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com


From sailingfu59 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 19 13:41:29 2008
From: sailingfu59 at yahoo.com (t birch)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:41:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Plug In America September Newsletter
Message-ID: <481518.36625.qm@web90502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Linda Nicholes <linda at pluginamerica.org> wrote:

From: Linda Nicholes <linda at pluginamerica.org>
Subject: Plug In America September Newsletter
To: sailingfu59 at yahoo.com
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 11:32 AM




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tracy,
Party Update - going, going?
Last month's newsletter (Let's Party!) announced a very special upcoming event for Plug In America on September 27th in Southern California at the Culver City home of Chris Paine, Director of "Who Killed the Electric Car?". RSVPs are coming in steadily, so if you want to join us at this engagement, please go to www.pluginamerica.org/party soon! Even if you can't come, you can help support us by going to our online Silent Auction (see below). Here, you will have a chance to purchase unique items that can't be had elsewhere.
Here's an update: Chris Paine and Chelsea Sexton will kick off the evening and introduce our two special guest speakers, Dan Neil, and R. James Woolsey.
Many of you have read Dan's Los Angeles Times auto column and know that he won a Pulitzer Prize in 2004 for his column Rumble Seat. The Pulitzer board described his automobile reviews as "blending technical expertise with offbeat humor and astute cultural criticism."
Former CIA Director Jim Woolsey will speak on a serious topic -- national security -- but his presentation will surprise even the most serious of us.

Last but not least, the skies will be glowing with a special appearance by a very rare car -- the first Tesla that came off the production line -- the Tesla P1. This beauty may be joined by another rare car.
And don't be surprised if the cameras start rolling. Chris Paine will shoot parts of the evening for his new documentary, "Revenge of the Electric Car".
Since so many guests are coming after the AltCar Expo, we expect the attire to be casual. Indeed, since the host's house is undergoing a major remodel, the party will be out of doors where we can enjoy the sunset and a poolside setting.
An Electrifying Shopping Experience - Please Support Our Silent Auction!

Have a look! Plug In America's Silent Auction is online now at www.pluginamerica.cmarket.com.
Support Plug In America by purchasing something special. The holidays are coming soon! Many of these offerings are not available in stores. For instance, you can help out with a new movie by Chris Paine, ride in an electric boat, and you can dine with board member and actress Alexandra Paul.
You'll need to provide a credit card to prove seriousness and legitimacy to the process.
You can make special arrangements to pay via personal check or PayPal or credit card. Some items can be bought outright - other items will continue to be bid on at the Plug In America party. Please email events at pluginamerica.org if you have any questions. Many thanks to those who have donated unique products and services.
Plug In America has grown almost entirely from the tireless efforts of a talented and professional volunteer board of directors who joined together out of a passion to stop the auto companies from destroying the 1990s generation of electric cars. Fast forward many years later, and there is tremendous work to be done. Thank you for supporting our work at this critical juncture.
Electric Charging Time Victory From CARB
It is worth mentioning that the California Air Resources Board (CARB) has postponed its rulemaking on the electric vehicle charging requirements of the Hybrid Electric Vehicles Test Procedures.
CARB stated in a written memo that the charging requirements will be considered in a future rulemaking that is not yet scheduled.
Everyone at Plug In America has breathed a sigh of relief.
CARB's proposed charging requirements would have mandated a four-hour fast charging for all CARB-certified zero emission vehicles. Earlier in August Plug In America sent a formal commentary to CARB detailing how onerous the four-hour charging time mandate would be, and questioned why this limitation would not apply to other alternative fueled vehicles, such as compressed natural gas. The fact that the charging requirement has been postponed indefinitely suggests that it may not show up again. Additional information on these activities is posted to this web site: www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/zevprog/hevtest/hevtest.htm
Recommended Reading:

Coming Clean - Breaking America's Addiction to Oil and Coal
by Michael Brune, Executive Director, Rainforest Action Network
published by Sierra Club Books
Michael Brune begins his tale of America's entrenched fossil fuel addiction with a quote by Victor Hugo: "There is one thing stronger than all the armies of the world, and that is an idea whose time has come."
According to Brune, the time has come, and the time is up. He presents a compelling case for the big clean-up with relentless clarity that compels us all to act. If widely known, the facts in this book could serve to awaken America from its all-too-familiar status quo, business-as-usual stupor.
Brune also documents the passion and intensity of the advocacy wave for electric transportation and the people involved, including many behind the scenes here at Plug In America. Brune's organization Rainforest Action Network was instrumental in teaming up with Plug In America to organize and orchestrate actions against GM, Toyota and Ford.
Coming Clean presents the case for unleashing America from its savage slavery to fossil fuels and includes real world solutions. More importantly, though, we learn HOW to affect the cure. This is recommended reading.
Plug In America Sets Up An Infrastructure Committee
A "plug-in future" is almost here as we look forward to the release of several production electric vehicles in the next few years. With foresight and planning, cities, neighborhood groups and major developers are already considering how to incorporate charging stations into new housing, shopping districts and public parking areas. Private companies are starting to envision how they might set up opportunities for their employees to keep vehicles juiced up. How do local policies and efforts further or encumber such efforts? How does the word get out so that the wheel does not have to be reinvented?
Plug In America is fortunate to have the support of many talented high-level volunteers. Now we are seeking qualified participants for an Infrastructure Committee that can serve as a hub for communication among architects, city planners, electricians, policy makers, LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) certified professionals who are furthering LEED buildings and neighborhoods, and others. Our aim is to advance the consideration of an EV infrastructure and how it is integrated into green building and city & regional planning.
Plug In America will convene and chair this group whose members will start meeting in October via conference call. While a detailed work plan will ultimately be decided, Plug In America proposes to identify and tackle a real life project in a jurisdiction that shares our vision. Your suggestions and thoughts are welcome even if you have no time to work on a committee. Please email your interest in participating to infrastructure at pluginamerica.org.
Great News

Automotive Magazine Ranks Plug In America: Plug In America was named as one of Automotive Magazine's top five "key players" in its October 2008 issue. We are considered one of the most influential nonprofit organizations pursuing Greens Dreams of an environmental cause.
Thumbs Up from the IRS: Plug In America received official word from the Internal Revenue Service that we are a 501c3 nonprofit organization, applicable retroactively as of January 2008. Any donations made during 2008 are considered fully tax deductable to the extent of the law. We wish to thank the Electric Auto Association (EAA) for helping us during our inception by being our legal fiscal agent, accepting membership dues directed to Plug In America and teaming up with us for many great events. How does Plug In America now differ from the EAA? We are less of a hands-on vehicle educational group and more of a consumer advocacy and policy entity. Plug In America attracts people who may be passionate about an electric transportation future, but who may not want to understand all of the inner workings under the hood of a car. 

Plug In America Bids Adieu to the Solar Taxi!

As the Solar Taxi winds down its American tour and heads north from the east coast into Canada, we want to wish inventor voyager Louis Palmer and his talented tech team the best. If you haven't had a chance to witness bits of this remarkable journey, enjoy its complete documented trip at www.solartaxi.com. For an extremely funny spoof on the Solar Taxi and the wild west, have a look at www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZtvH1MhRaE&fmt=18. And for an insider visit and a "spin" behind the wheel, Plug In America documentarian Stefano Paris video-taped his ride (www.stefanoparis.com/redirect/Solartaxi-Simi.html
Solar Taxi is a battery-operated solar electric vehicle that has logged thousands of miles driving across America -- north to south, west to east -- the ultimate road trip.? Its mission is to circumnavigate the world to raise awareness about solutions to climate change.? When Solar Taxi was in Los Angeles, it captured the attention of Jay Leno, Larry Hagman, Tony Shalhoub and James Cameron who came out for rides.? While en route to the east coast, Solar Taxi made a stop at General Motors and when it reached New York, it drew the attention of the United Nations Secretary General. We wave a fond goodbye and look forward to its return!



Sincerely,
Linda Nicholes
Plug In America




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From nickgaladay at msn.com  Fri Sep 19 14:50:38 2008
From: nickgaladay at msn.com (Nick Galaday)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:50:38 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] My next car must plug in!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.954.1221632298.935.oeva-list@oeva.org>
References: <mailman.954.1221632298.935.oeva-list@oeva.org>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV6FDCDD43C19870455AB98BD4E0@phx.gbl>

Here's a way I'm keeping the pressure on.  I went to the national websites
of Chevy, Toyota, etc. and filled out the ubiquitous "interest card"
stipulating that I was in the market for a car that plugs in.  Naturally,
they ignored that part and sent my contact info out to all of their dealers
within 50 miles of Portland!  So now I'm getting no end of email responses
from dealership "Online Sales Managers" offering to help me.  This gives me
an opportunity to send them a reply all about how I'm still driving an 18
year old Toyota and I'm waiting for just the right plug-in to come along,
like the electric S-10 or RAV-4 my California friend had a few years back...


I'm also writing Costco, Fred Meyers, Safeway, etc., asking if they have "a
place I can plug in to recharge when I shop there; my nearest shopping is 35
miles away".  

Perhaps if enough people express these sentiments word might eventually get
back to Detroit, etc.  

Nick Galaday
Vernonia, OR  

___Energy Conservation
             .....saves more than energy!


From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Fri Sep 19 16:29:44 2008
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:29:44 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] New Charging Station in Lake Oswego
Message-ID: <9ECCD1FF821C4247B03C280FE8EBAEE36E2BE5C739@APEXMAIL.corp.dom>



MEDIA ALERT: LAKE OSWEGO INSTALLS CITY'S FIRST CHARGING STATION FOR PLUG-IN VEHICLES

Posted: September 19th, 2008 2:43 PM

- See the new station in action: Monday, Sept. 22 at 11 a.m.-

What:

The City of Lake Oswego is unveiling the city's first plug-in vehicle charging station as part of Portland General Electric's new network of charging stations in the region. The station is now open and free to the public.



Who:

Mayor Judie Hammerstad will invite plug-in electric vehicle owners Brian Toye and Julie Pacheco-Toye to be Lake Oswego's first residents to plug in to the station.

PGE representatives will be on hand to talk about its new network of five charging stations in the region - enough to charge 12 vehicles. Other stations include Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (two plugs); Portland General Electric: Salem office (two plugs), Portland office (two plugs), and Two World Trade Center garage, Portland (four plugs).

When:

Monday, Sept. 22 from 11 a.m. to 12 p.m.

At 11 a.m., the Toye family will drive up in their ZENN plug-in electric car, plug in and kick off the launch of the new charging station.

Where:

Lake Oswego Charging station: A Avenue, just west of 2nd St. (two plugs)

Why:

With concerns about global warming and rising fuel costs, city leaders and Lake Oswego residents are looking for more economical and sustainable transportation options. The City of Lake Oswego joined forces with PGE to install the station to help develop and test the transportation infrastructure needed to support plug-in vehicles.

# # #

About Portland General Electric Company

Portland General Electric, headquartered in Portland, Ore., is a fully integrated electric utility that serves approximately 813,000 residential, commercial and industrial customers in Oregon. Visit our Web site at PortlandGeneral.com

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From barnes.rick at verizon.net  Fri Sep 19 17:44:47 2008
From: barnes.rick at verizon.net (Rick Barnes)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:44:47 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC to 3 phase AC inverter/controller
In-Reply-To: <48D3E646.6080509@notebene.net>
References: <689246.33105.qm@web55101.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<48D3E646.6080509@notebene.net>
Message-ID: <002101c91aba$1550b5e0$3ff221a0$@rick@verizon.net>

I have successfully used a Telemechanique/Square-D Altivar drive controller
to run a standard 3-phase motor from 240VDC. Even though the controller is
not rated for DC input.

Rick Barnes
Aloha, OR

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of Tony McCormick
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:50 AM
To: OEVA
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] DC to 3 phase AC inverter/controller

SynkroMotive has options in this category ....
see: www.SynkroMotive.com
--Tony

Nev Okyay wrote:
> >From the evalbum I could see only two such systems:
> azure and siemens.  In each case you have to purchase
> the inverter/motor combo together.
>
> Is there any other options for DC to 3 phase
> inverter?  In particular something that is generic
> enough to be connected to any 3 phase motor.
>
> I ask this question because for a comparable power
> rating, AC motors are obtainable easily and at much
> lower cost.  I am guessing that the
> inverter/controllers
> is probably more expensive than the DC controllers
> such as Curtis.
>
> As in the two manufacturers above (Siemens and Azure),
> if the 3 phase motor is packaged together with the
> controller, then there is no price advantage on the
> motor anyways..
>
> any thoughts on this?
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>       
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>
>
>   

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com

_______________________________________________
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From acEv at bellsouth.net  Sat Sep 20 12:48:40 2008
From: acEv at bellsouth.net (David Kerzel)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:48:40 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
Message-ID: <LIEOKAOECGLBLBPAHDEOAEFFCAAA.acEv@bellsouth.net>

At the last OEVA meeting it was mentioned that an Oregon company is or will
soon be producing a motor controller similar to the hard to get Zillas.
Does any one have a link or more information?
David Kerzel
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From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 20 14:30:55 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:30:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
Message-ID: <748726.27243.qm@web110509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi David,

  Synkromotive (located in Portland: www.synkromotive.com) is Beta testing their DC controller now for production.
Perhaps you could contact them.

Cheers,
Tim
OEVA Chair




----- Original Message ----
From: David Kerzel <acEv at bellsouth.net>
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:48:40 PM
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler

 
At the last OEVA meeting it was mentioned that an Oregon company is or
will soon be producing a motor controller similar to the hard to get
Zillas.  Does any one have a link
or more information?
David Kerzel


      
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From nevokyay at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 20 15:01:53 2008
From: nevokyay at yahoo.com (Nev Okyay)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:01:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
In-Reply-To: <748726.27243.qm@web110509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <713453.36970.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


Hi Tim-

On the website mentioned below, I don't see
any phone number.  The contact form and the
website is mostly about motorcycles.  They are
supposed to be beta testing, but I didn't
see any information about that..

- nev



--- Tim Kutscha <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
>   Synkromotive (located in Portland:
> www.synkromotive.com) is Beta testing their DC
> controller now for production.
> Perhaps you could contact them.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tim
> OEVA Chair
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Kerzel <acEv at bellsouth.net>
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:48:40 PM
> Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
> 
>  
> At the last OEVA meeting it was mentioned that an
> Oregon company is or
> will soon be producing a motor controller similar to
> the hard to get
> Zillas.  Does any one have a link
> or more information?
> David Kerzel
> 
> 
>       >
_______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
> 



      

From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 20 15:21:03 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
Message-ID: <857100.8869.qm@web110502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Nev,

   Yes, Synkromotive hasn't published much info on their website yet
as they are small and don't want to be swamped with requests for
information while they figure out technical issues.  Many EV companies
today are frustrated because many potential customers call in to
ask questions about EVs and don't provide real business.  While I can't
speak for Synkromotive, I would suggest you send them an e-mail
with specific requests for information about their products and I'm
guessing they will respond as best they can.  If they think you're serious
as an early adopter, then they'll provide you with a contact phone number.
  I apologize if this e-mail seems rather blunt.  I'm trying to share my
observations of these small 2-3 person EV businesses that are struggling
to get a foothold without getting crushed from the overwhelming number
of general EV questions.

Warm regards,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair

p.s. If anyone from Synkromotive would like to correct my statements,
please speak up to inform the general membership.  Thanks.




----- Original Message ----
From: Nev Okyay <nevokyay at yahoo.com>
To: Tim Kutscha <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>; oeva-list at oeva.org
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:01:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] DC Controler


Hi Tim-

On the website mentioned below, I don't see
any phone number.  The contact form and the
website is mostly about motorcycles.  They are
supposed to be beta testing, but I didn't
see any information about that..

- nev


      
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From tony at notebene.net  Sat Sep 20 18:22:53 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:22:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
In-Reply-To: <LIEOKAOECGLBLBPAHDEOAEFFCAAA.acEv@bellsouth.net>
References: <LIEOKAOECGLBLBPAHDEOAEFFCAAA.acEv@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <48D5A1ED.9080004@notebene.net>

www.synkromotive.com
--Tony

David Kerzel wrote:
>
> At the last OEVA meeting it was mentioned that an Oregon company is or 
> will soon be producing a motor controller similar to the hard to get 
> Zillas.  Does any one have a link or more information?
>
> David Kerzel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>   

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com


From tony at notebene.net  Sat Sep 20 18:23:39 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:23:39 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
In-Reply-To: <713453.36970.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <713453.36970.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48D5A21B.5050307@notebene.net>

The website is slim.. but the product(s) are real.
--Tony

Nev Okyay wrote:
> Hi Tim-
>
> On the website mentioned below, I don't see
> any phone number.  The contact form and the
> website is mostly about motorcycles.  They are
> supposed to be beta testing, but I didn't
> see any information about that..
>
> - nev
>
>
>
> --- Tim Kutscha <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi David,
>>
>>   Synkromotive (located in Portland:
>> www.synkromotive.com) is Beta testing their DC
>> controller now for production.
>> Perhaps you could contact them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>> OEVA Chair
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: David Kerzel <acEv at bellsouth.net>
>> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:48:40 PM
>> Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Controler
>>
>>  
>> At the last OEVA meeting it was mentioned that an
>> Oregon company is or
>> will soon be producing a motor controller similar to
>> the hard to get
>> Zillas.  Does any one have a link
>> or more information?
>> David Kerzel
>>
>>
>>       >
>>     
> _______________________________________________
>   
>> Oeva-list mailing list
>> Oeva-list at oeva.org
>> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>       
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>
>
>   

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com


From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 00:55:42 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:55:42 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Chrysler to tell dealers electric vehicle plans
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809210055q7f8f9a58v1a0b69c7653cbed7@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080920/AUTO01/809200329/1148/rss25

"...the next generation of electric cars," Helfman said. "They should be
> great sellers." ... they would be powered by a plug-in electric powertrain.
>

-- 
Regards,
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From pctphoenix at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 21 14:56:06 2008
From: pctphoenix at yahoo.com (Anne Perretta)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:56:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] electric conversion
Message-ID: <835947.58318.qm@web59103.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

we live in Portland OR and have been trying to find an electric car or truck that we can buy and at the same time, HAVE SERVICED, as needed.  We have seen several in Seattle and Canada but never see them advertised here in Portland unless they are NEV's which we are not interested in.  Do you know anyone in the Portland area who converts to electric.  We would be willing to buy, say a Chevy S-10, and have it converted if we could just find someone who can do the work.

Thanks.

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 22:12:08 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:12:08 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Tesla Sedan Swappable Battery Pack
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809212212u5b94cdc5n91fbe541e605b7dd@mail.gmail.com>

http://earth2tech.com/2008/09/17/elon-musk-envisions-tesla-electric-car-as-low-as-20k/

Elon Musk said the Model S (aka Witestar) would have swappable battery
packs.  He also said the Bluestar (Tesla's 3rd car line) could have a
$20,000 version.

-- 
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From tony at notebene.net  Sun Sep 21 22:37:45 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:37:45 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] electric conversion
In-Reply-To: <835947.58318.qm@web59103.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <835947.58318.qm@web59103.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48D72F29.9080800@notebene.net>

There are a few people that are trying to get business doing conversions
started.   Hopefully the will post replies.  Some day I hope they will
list their businesses on the resources page of OEVA Website.
--Tony

Anne Perretta wrote:
> we live in Portland OR and have been trying to find an electric car or 
> truck that we can buy and at the same time, HAVE SERVICED, as needed. 
>  We have seen several in Seattle and Canada but never see them 
> advertised here in Portland unless they are NEV's which we are not 
> interested in.  Do you know anyone in the Portland area who converts 
> to electric.  We would be willing to buy, say a Chevy S-10, and have 
> it converted if we could just find someone who can do the work.
>
> Thanks.
>  
> Anne Perretta
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>   

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com



From tony at notebene.net  Sun Sep 21 22:44:47 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:44:47 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Mean machines go green
Message-ID: <48D730CF.2030903@notebene.net>

Cover article in this weeks New Scientist Mag.
    http://www.newscientist.com/contents/issue/2674.html*
*    http://tinyurl.com/52gawg

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com


From phil at hochstetler.com  Mon Sep 22 10:19:50 2008
From: phil at hochstetler.com (phil hochstetler)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:19:50 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Mean machines go green
In-Reply-To: <48D730CF.2030903@notebene.net>
References: <48D730CF.2030903@notebene.net>
Message-ID: <37a5993b0809221019q56788e83t21f39e7ff883b509@mail.gmail.com>

You can only read the preview portion of the article from your link (unless
you pay $$) butthe entire issue but the article is available here:
<http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/19/3660470.htm>
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/19/3660470.htm
--phil

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Tony McCormick <tony at notebene.net> wrote:

> Cover article in this weeks New Scientist Mag.
>    http://www.newscientist.com/contents/issue/2674.html*
> *    http://tinyurl.com/52gawg
>
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From tony at notebene.net  Mon Sep 22 10:36:41 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:36:41 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Mean machines go green
In-Reply-To: <37a5993b0809221019q56788e83t21f39e7ff883b509@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48D730CF.2030903@notebene.net>
	<37a5993b0809221019q56788e83t21f39e7ff883b509@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D7D7A9.9040206@notebene.net>

The mag is worth paying for, I am a subscriber :-)
--Tony

phil hochstetler wrote:
> You can only read the preview portion of the article from your link 
> (unless you pay $$) but
> the entire issue but the article is available here:   
> http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/19/3660470.htm
> --phil
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Tony McCormick <tony at notebene.net 
> <mailto:tony at notebene.net>> wrote:
>
>     Cover article in this weeks New Scientist Mag.
>        http://www.newscientist.com/contents/issue/2674.html*
>     *    http://tinyurl.com/52gawg
>
>

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com


From bob at research13.com  Mon Sep 22 13:53:16 2008
From: bob at research13.com (bob at research13.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:53:16 +0000
Subject: [Oeva-list] Mean machines go green
Message-ID: <W1493123717265331222116796@webmail25>

Thanks for that post. The article touches on a lot of issues. I think that the safety issue of the Tesla is one interesting point. The Tesla passed all the crash tests and they nailed it with a really safe battery system too. The article author also mentioned that GM brought us the Hummer. I believe that isn't exactly true. GM bought Hummer after sales were already growing fast. And the reason for that was also safety. I was at the 2003 Advertising Research Foundation conference when the GM chief marketing strategist explained that the Hummer is most like bought and driven by a female (since this conference I've seen a lot of soccer Mom's with a Hummer and Starbucks in the cup holder). A big Hummer makes people feel safer. Greenies also like Hummers. I met a gentleman at the Better Living Show who had more than one Hummer running on Biodiesel.

This year I heard Rob Ferber speak on a panel, he is a battery scientist and worked with Tesla. One of the panelists suggested that Electric wasn't very likely in big trucks ...and Mr. Ferber pointed out that 200 ton submarines were electrically powered in the early 1900s. 

It seems to me that like the Tesla pushed the sports car end of things, that there will likely be a market for large EVs too. The more people see the possibilities, the more likely that your battery costs will go down too.


-----Original Message-----
From: phil hochstetler [mailto:phil at hochstetler.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:19 AM
To: 'Tony McCormick'
Cc: 'OEVA'
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Mean machines go green

You can only read the preview portion of the article from your link (unless you pay $$) but the entire issue but the article is available here: 
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/09/19/3660470.htm
--phil

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Tony McCormick <tony at notebene.net> wrote:
Cover article in this weeks New Scientist Mag.
http://www.newscientist.com/contents/issue/2674.html*
* http://tinyurl.com/52gawg






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From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 11:08:57 2008
From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:08:57 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Oregon Company Raises $10 M
Message-ID: <83b7b17c0809231108n3c1b9a9cwb14e7427a7647e9@mail.gmail.com>

Brammo raises $10 million US for Electric Motorcycle launch (Funding)
Brammo, an Oregon-based startup, has raised $10 million US from investors to
bring The Enertia ,an electric motorcycle, to market later this fall. The
Enertia has an initial cost of $15,000 US -- perhaps dropping to $12,500 US
after economies of scale are realized -- and can travel 45 miles on a single
charge. According to the company web site, that equates to roughly 534 miles
per gallon. About 100,000 people have expressed interest in the Enertia.
Chrysalix Energy Venture Capital, and the venture capital arm of Best Buy
were among the investors. (Source: Earth2Tech, September 22, 2008).

Contact: Brammo, (541) 482-9555 ext. 318, press at brammo.com, www.brammo.com,
www.enertiabike.com.

-- 
Jeff Kim
Chief Operating Officer
Shorepower Technologies
(503) 686-8844
jkim at shorepower.com
www.shorepower.com

New Address:
2351 NW York Street
Portland, OR 97210
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From evmail4ron at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 12:11:28 2008
From: evmail4ron at yahoo.com (Ron Jayasuriya)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:11:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] ev conversion services
In-Reply-To: <835947.58318.qm@web59103.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <37639.75712.qm@web110114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Anne,
Thank you for expressing interest in an electric vehicle conversion.
At Shorepower Technologies we offer a wide range of electric vehicle services including vehicle conversions.? It is our intention to be able to offer a few standard models which we could then reproduce more efficiently.? We will also offer more custom services on a time and materials basis.? We currently have a 2000 Jetta almost ready for sale, a 2003 mini cooper in process, a ZAP pickup that has been upgraded, and a Prius that has been converted to allow it to be plugged in (PHEV).

A small pickup is a very good choice for an ev conversion.? S-10's have been a popular choice in the past.? A Toyota Tacoma would also be a good choice.? 

There are a few basic questions that usually come up right away.? 
How fast will it go?
How far will it go?
How much will it cost?
How long will the conversion take?

I would suggest that $15-$20K is a good ballpark to start with.? This would get you a basic conversion with lead acid batteries that would give you a range of about 20 miles (depending on conditions) and limited freeway capabilty.? More expensive batteries, such as lithium, which can greatly increase range, can also double the price.? Most conversions still use DC motors, but AC systems are available, which offer neat features like regerative braking (and a higher price tag).

Hopefully this helps you get started.
If you have more questions you are welcome to post them to the oeva board or contact us directly.

Thanks again for your interest in ev's!

Sincerely,

Ron Jayasuriya
Shorepower Technologies
2351 NW York St.
Portland, OR 97210
www.shorepower.com
(503) 267-2755

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Anne Perretta <pctphoenix at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Anne Perretta <pctphoenix at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] electric conversion
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 9:56 PM

we live in Portland OR and have been trying to find an electric car or truck that we can buy and at the same time, HAVE SERVICED, as needed. ?We have seen several in Seattle and Canada but never see them advertised here in Portland unless they are NEV's which we are not interested in. ?Do you know anyone in the Portland area who converts to electric. ?We would be willing to buy, say a Chevy S-10, and have it converted if we could just find someone who can do the work.
Thanks.
?Anne Perretta



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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 14:01:55 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:01:55 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Chrysler gets into electric car race
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809231401h2f50dae5od9d9a3eb512734a7@mail.gmail.com>

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10048704-54.html

-- 
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 14:04:41 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:04:41 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Oregon Company Raises $10 M
In-Reply-To: <83b7b17c0809231108n3c1b9a9cwb14e7427a7647e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <83b7b17c0809231108n3c1b9a9cwb14e7427a7647e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809231404y2ab85885ne6ac69468dbee95e@mail.gmail.com>

Cool.  Can we get them to come to a meeting and show us the bike?

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Kim <jeff.shorepower at gmail.com>wrote:

> Brammo raises $10 million US for Electric Motorcycle launch (Funding)
> Brammo, an Oregon-based startup, has raised $10 million US from investors
> to bring The Enertia ,an electric motorcycle, to market later this fall. The
> Enertia has an initial cost of $15,000 US -- perhaps dropping to $12,500 US
> after economies of scale are realized -- and can travel 45 miles on a single
> charge. According to the company web site, that equates to roughly 534 miles
> per gallon. About 100,000 people have expressed interest in the Enertia.
> Chrysalix Energy Venture Capital, and the venture capital arm of Best Buy
> were among the investors. (Source: Earth2Tech, September 22, 2008).
>
> Contact: Brammo, (541) 482-9555 ext. 318, press at brammo.com, www.brammo.com,
> www.enertiabike.com.
>
> --
> Jeff Kim
> Chief Operating Officer
> Shorepower Technologies
> (503) 686-8844
> jkim at shorepower.com
> www.shorepower.com
>
> New Address:
> 2351 NW York Street
> Portland, OR 97210
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>
>


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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 23:00:39 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:00:39 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Portland Blazes Green Trail
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809232300o3a44099m9fd558e796a62b16@mail.gmail.com>

<http://lists.grist.org/t?r=2&c=3701&l=16&ctl=323F1:8920E96D9172B95CEE30C21F0647C772>
From
Grist

Portland, Ore., tops sustainable-cities ranking

For the fourth year in a row, Portland, Ore., has been named the most
sustainable of the 50 largest U.S. cities. The rankings by green org
SustainLane, which take 16 economic and quality-of-life factors into
consideration, "reveal which cities are increasingly self-sufficient,
prepared for the unexpected, and taking steps toward preserving and
enhancing their quality of life," says the group. After Portland, this
year's top 10 include San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, New York, Boston,
Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Oakland, and Baltimore. The bottom 10: Nashville,
Arlington, Long Beach, Colorado Springs, Indianapolis, Virginia Beach,
Memphis, Las Vegas, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, and Mesa. Columbus made the
biggest improvement over SustainLane's last list, jumping from No. 50 to No.
30; Las Vegas saw the biggest freefall, from No. 27 to No. 47.
Unsurprisingly -- but still unfortunately -- the most affordable cities
tended to score the worst on public transit, bike-friendliness, and
walkability.
sources: SustainLane<http://lists.grist.org/t?r=2&c=3701&l=16&ctl=323B1:8920E96D9172B95CEE30C21F0647C772>,
The Wall Street
Journal<http://lists.grist.org/t?r=2&c=3701&l=16&ctl=32399:8920E96D9172B95CEE30C21F0647C772>,
Outside<http://lists.grist.org/t?r=2&c=3701&l=16&ctl=323AE:8920E96D9172B95CEE30C21F0647C772>

-- 
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From bilquistmrsj at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 24 00:12:08 2008
From: bilquistmrsj at yahoo.com (Christine Jeibmann)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:12:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] ev conversion services
Message-ID: <255557.47242.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Anne, 

Ron from Shorepower Technologies did an upgrade on my 2008 ZAP Xebra PK and I am much happier with my vehicles performance.  He was very upfront and honest with me and did a great job.  This vehicle was already electric but he helped me get more power by adding another battery.  He also installed a Paktrakr so I can watch my pack closely.  I would recommend Ron and Shorepower for EV help -- service or conversion.   

Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.  EV's and EV conversion and/or upgrades are not cheap but it all pays back eventually by just driving by the gas stations!!  



--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Ron Jayasuriya <evmail4ron at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ron Jayasuriya <evmail4ron at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] ev conversion services
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org, "Anne Perretta" <pctphoenix at yahoo.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 1:11 PM
> Anne,
> Thank you for expressing interest in an electric vehicle
> conversion.
> At Shorepower Technologies we offer a wide range of
> electric vehicle services including vehicle conversions.?
> It is our intention to be able to offer a few standard
> models which we could then reproduce more efficiently.? We
> will also offer more custom services on a time and materials
> basis.? We currently have a 2000 Jetta almost ready for
> sale, a 2003 mini cooper in process, a ZAP pickup that has
> been upgraded, and a Prius that has been converted to allow
> it to be plugged in (PHEV).
> 
> A small pickup is a very good choice for an ev
> conversion.? S-10's have been a popular choice in the
> past.? A Toyota Tacoma would also be a good choice.? 
> 
> There are a few basic questions that usually come up right
> away.? 
> How fast will it go?
> How far will it go?
> How much will it cost?
> How long will the conversion take?
> 
> I would suggest that $15-$20K is a good ballpark to start
> with.? This would get you a basic conversion with lead acid
> batteries that would give you a range of about 20 miles
> (depending on conditions) and limited freeway capabilty.?
> More expensive batteries, such as lithium, which can greatly
> increase range, can also double the price.? Most
> conversions still use DC motors, but AC systems are
> available, which offer neat features like regerative braking
> (and a higher price tag).
> 
> Hopefully this helps you get started.
> If you have more questions you are welcome to post them to
> the oeva board or contact us directly.
> 
> Thanks again for your interest in ev's!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Ron Jayasuriya
> Shorepower Technologies
> 2351 NW York St.
> Portland, OR 97210
> www.shorepower.com
> (503) 267-2755
> 
> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Anne Perretta
> <pctphoenix at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Anne Perretta <pctphoenix at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Oeva-list] electric conversion
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 9:56 PM
> 
> we live in Portland OR and have been trying to find an
> electric car or truck that we can buy and at the same time,
> HAVE SERVICED, as needed. ?We have seen several in Seattle
> and Canada but never see them advertised here in Portland
> unless they are NEV's which we are not interested in.
> ?Do you know anyone in the Portland area who converts to
> electric. ?We would be willing to buy, say a Chevy S-10,
> and have it converted if we could just find someone who can
> do the work.
> Thanks.
> ?Anne Perretta
> 
> 
> 
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From emily at arcimoto.com  Wed Sep 24 12:30:19 2008
From: emily at arcimoto.com (Emily Ramage)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:30:19 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Legislative change suggestions?
Message-ID: <2d5495f90809241230g3f804f6biaca96a45ee79e85c@mail.gmail.com>

Hello OEVA Folks,
I've emailed this group once before to announce an EVent in Eugene.  This
time I am emailing to field suggestions.

A little background -- I work for a locally owned EV company in Eugene.  We
are currently in the R&D phase of building three-wheeled EVs, and plan to
start production early next year.  For those folks who requested information
last time I sent out an email, I am really sorry for not getting back to you
with details.  We are further along in the process now, and I can provide
information at this point to those who would like it (or take suggestions
from those who would like to give them).  To avoid spamming the OEVA email
list, my work email is:  emily at arcimoto.com.

Anyway . . . To The Point!

We are putting together some suggestions to submit to the legislature this
session.  I would like to know if anyone has suggestions for items that they
would like changed, introduced, etc.  We will probably submit a preliminary
document by the end of this week or early next week.

Cheers!

Emily Ramage
Arcimoto
emily at arcimoto.com
(541) 683-6293
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From garry at europa.com  Wed Sep 24 18:18:35 2008
From: garry at europa.com (garry painter)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:18:35 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] You kids....
In-Reply-To: <2d5495f90809241230g3f804f6biaca96a45ee79e85c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2d5495f90809241230g3f804f6biaca96a45ee79e85c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AE72C784-31F7-431D-918A-D51C11020186@europa.com>

I've always been amazed at how everyone at the OEVA is so on top of  
everything.

Breaking news every morning on my laptop.

FINALLY! a scoop......

My sister sent me the following today:
------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/233889,german-factory-claims- 
first-in-automotive-lithium-ion-batteries.html

Berlin - A factory making lithium-ion batteries for hybrid- drive  
cars opened in Germany Wednesday, with owner Continental saying it  
was the first in the world to mass-produce the storage cells. Smaller  
lithium-ion (Li-ion) rechargeable batteries for laptop computers and  
other uses are common round the globe, but most fuel- saving hybrid  
cars use an older technology, nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries.

German components group Continental's factory in Nuremberg will make  
batteries weighing 25 kilograms and allow electric motors in cars to  
supplement the output of combustion engines by up to 19 kilowatts of  
power.

The technology is to be installed in Mercedes S400 Blue Hybrid cars  
from the middle of next year, Continental said.

The factory can make up to 15,000 of the batteries per year.

------------------------------------------------------------------

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From joelgentleman at tds.net  Thu Sep 25 16:34:19 2008
From: joelgentleman at tds.net (Joel Gentleman)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:34:19 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Li Ion
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1222369206.84208.oeva-list@oeva.org>
Message-ID: <2C4CE48AD8454D23B53F44543170009E@movie>

Hi all, I am new, I hope I'm doing this right...

Regarding legislation, we really need to encourage both manufacturers and
consumers to innovate and take risks to increase the implementation of zero
emission transportation.  I think anything that uses the grid to charge
should tie into point of use solar and wind incentives.  Actually, the
infrastructure must grow together - Washington State predicts a 500MW grid
shortage so they have passed carbon free production legislation that gives
tax based incentives to manufacturers and performance based incentives to
consumers.  It was passed in 2005 and not really reaching critical mass.
Like so many things it is such a chicken or the egg situation - I think we
just need to wait for the natural economics to drive the demand up and the
production scale will drive the prices down.  But, we can't charge the car
if the grid is dead, so I really think (hope) we will see more point of use
generation and large (20MW+) carbon free wind or solar power plants.

Regarding Li Ion batteries - Continental/Enax and A123 are making big Li Ion
battery modules which look very easy to integrate in vehicles (to me, they
look like huge AA batteries with lug terminals).  But they will not sell to
the backyard conversion folks like most of us (I tried).  Actually, A123
will sell small, expensive cells as part of their developer's kit - I am so
tempted.  I guess we just wait.

Joel Gentleman

Home:     360.263.5011

Cell:        360.772.9034

E-Fax:     253.660.8472

joelgentleman at tds.net

joelgentleman at yahoo.com


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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:30:19 -0700
From: "Emily Ramage" <emily at arcimoto.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Legislative change suggestions?
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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Hello OEVA Folks,
I've emailed this group once before to announce an EVent in Eugene.  This
time I am emailing to field suggestions.

A little background -- I work for a locally owned EV company in Eugene.  We
are currently in the R&D phase of building three-wheeled EVs, and plan to
start production early next year.  For those folks who requested information
last time I sent out an email, I am really sorry for not getting back to you
with details.  We are further along in the process now, and I can provide
information at this point to those who would like it (or take suggestions
from those who would like to give them).  To avoid spamming the OEVA email
list, my work email is:  emily at arcimoto.com.

Anyway . . . To The Point!

We are putting together some suggestions to submit to the legislature this
session.  I would like to know if anyone has suggestions for items that they
would like changed, introduced, etc.  We will probably submit a preliminary
document by the end of this week or early next week.

Cheers!

Emily Ramage
Arcimoto
emily at arcimoto.com
(541) 683-6293
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From: garry painter <garry at europa.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] You kids....
To: OEVA <oeva-list at oeva.org>
Cc: Connie <painterc at cox.net>
Message-ID: <AE72C784-31F7-431D-918A-D51C11020186 at europa.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I've always been amazed at how everyone at the OEVA is so on top of  
everything.

Breaking news every morning on my laptop.

FINALLY! a scoop......

My sister sent me the following today:
------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/233889,german-factory-claims- 
first-in-automotive-lithium-ion-batteries.html

Berlin - A factory making lithium-ion batteries for hybrid- drive  
cars opened in Germany Wednesday, with owner Continental saying it  
was the first in the world to mass-produce the storage cells. Smaller  
lithium-ion (Li-ion) rechargeable batteries for laptop computers and  
other uses are common round the globe, but most fuel- saving hybrid  
cars use an older technology, nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries.

German components group Continental's factory in Nuremberg will make  
batteries weighing 25 kilograms and allow electric motors in cars to  
supplement the output of combustion engines by up to 19 kilowatts of  
power.

The technology is to be installed in Mercedes S400 Blue Hybrid cars  
from the middle of next year, Continental said.

The factory can make up to 15,000 of the batteries per year.

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 18:00:00 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:00:00 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Patrick vs Newt - Green Jobs or Fossil Fuels
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809251800l4585b138j82ef7b5fd8eb25f2@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GOX4sNOUm0

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 18:05:27 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:05:27 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Got an idea to help the world? Here's $10 million
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809251805t41a3771bpe51372ef83456f77@mail.gmail.com>

 Google offers $10 million for helpful
ideas<http://rss.cnn.com/%7Er/rss/cnn_tech/%7E3/401886228/index.html>

CNN - 9/24/2008 - Got an idea that could change the world, or at least help
a lot of people? Google wants to hear from you -- and they'll pay as much as
$10 million to make your idea a reality. To help celebrate its 10th
birthday, the ambitious Internet giant is launching an initiative to
solicit, and bankroll, fresh ideas it believes could have broad and
beneficial impact on people's lives. Called Project 10^100 (pronounced "10
to the 100th"), Google's initiative will seek input from the public and a
panel of judges in choosing up to five winning ideas, to be announced in
February.

This could be the seed money for that EV start-up that you have been wanting
to do.

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 00:06:10 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:06:10 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Craig Dusing's Chevy S-10 Conversion
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809260006t75e2a8d2q8cf2d5cbacb5fda8@mail.gmail.com>

Nice conversion of a Chevy S-10.  See his video:
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/blogs/2008/09/videos-craig-dusings-s10-ev.html
-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From oeva_treas at verizon.net  Fri Sep 26 00:52:23 2008
From: oeva_treas at verizon.net (OEVA Treasurer)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:52:23 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Question about electric vehicle research in
	American universties
Message-ID: <006901c91fac$cffd4dd0$6ff7e970$@net>

OEVA:

 

Can someone offer Yin chenjia advice?

 

Thanks,

Rick Barnes

OEVA Treas

 

From: Yinchenjia [mailto:yin_chj at 126.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:39 PM
To: barnes.rick at verizon.net
Subject: Question about electric vehicle research in American universties

 

Dear Rick Barnes

 

 

Sorry to bother you!

 

I am a graduated student from Automotive College in Tongji Uni. in China and
major in automotive electrics. I plan to further my study in the United
Stats and electric vehicle technology is my target field because I am quite
interested in it. I find your e-mail address on the page of Electric Auto
Association which aims to "promote the advancement and widespread adoption
of Electric Vehicles". I believe electric vehicle, especially plug-in EV, is
of great potential and will be widely used one day. I hope I can make some
contributions to develop such technology and release a new vehicle which is
affordable to the public. In order to realize the goal, the first step is
going to the American University which is professional in this field.
However, it is not convenient to get such information in China because my
teachers are not familiar with the American universities or their research
progress. Could you please recommend me some universities which are
researching EV technologies and have graduate program on it? Thank you very
much. 

 

Your reply is very appreciated.

 

Best regards!

 

Yours, Sincerely

 

Yin chenjia

 

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From david at synkromotive.com  Fri Sep 26 09:38:50 2008
From: david at synkromotive.com (David Boyd)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:38:50 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] A bit more about SYNKROmotive
Message-ID: <990B62EF-2616-4443-A643-1C491BEEFD2F@synkromotive.com>

Greetings OEVA members,

As some here already know, we have been developing several EV power  
components over the last couple years. My partner, Ives Meadors, has  
been working on motor controllers since the early 2000's (sounds so  
strange to say that...). My background is in industrial design, and  
together we are designing a very complete, versatile and modular EV  
drive system, including motor controllers, BMS and charging systems,  
and LCD displays. As I'm fond of saying, Ives is the brains, I just  
make it look good...

We are nearing completing on our first product, a DC series motor  
controller with a host of very nice EV integration features that  
should make the conversion process much simpler. I'll post a link on  
our site when I can get the pdf file up there for everyone to view.  
We are about to release a Beta Program involving 10-15 people, many  
in the OEVA, to do our final real world testing and obtain drive data  
logging and user feedback. We've had a bit of a hiccup in the  
process, as the company that made the  heatsinks I designed our  
assembly around just went into receivership (ThermoFlo, for those who  
care...) So I'm now in the process of RFQ'ing our HS design to new  
extruders. If anyone has suggestions for an extrusion house that can  
do a high 'tongue to fin' ratio extrusion, please let me know!

On other fronts, we've been prototyping a new BMS/charger/monitor  
system that's going to be a really great product for the EV  
community. It's modular, and will work with any number of PbA  
batteries, and soon lithium. It will fully communicate with the  
controller for complete battery protection, charge control and  
monitoring and will also work as a stand alone system with any other  
controller, but without some of the more advanced features. Sorry to  
be a bit vague, but we're still working on some potential IP issues.  
We will release more info shortly.

As for our web site, we've been running 'under the radar' because we  
don't want to fall into the trap of many overly zealous EV companies  
who over promise and under deliver. We're very conscious of backing  
up our claims with real product that exceeds expectations. We're also  
just too darn busy to finish the site up! But we have a rough edit  
done that we'll put up in the next couple weeks.

Until then, if you have specific questions about us or our DC motor  
controller, or are interested in the Beta Program, feel free to drop  
me a line. E-mail is best. I will attend the next OEVA meeting (Oct)  
and bring some demo product with me and answer more questions at that  
time. Also, the pdf Beta spec sheet is just that... Beta. Some things  
may change, but overall it's very close to production spec.

I would like to thank all the members who have stuck with us (in  
secret...!) and a big shout out to Tony McCormick and Travis Gintz  
for their support in what we're trying to do.

Cheers,
David Boyd
CEO
SYNKROmotive, LLC

david at synkromotive.com

www.synkromotive.com

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From barnes.rick at verizon.net  Fri Sep 26 00:48:05 2008
From: barnes.rick at verizon.net (Rick Barnes)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:48:05 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: 2008 Kick Gas Festival is almost here!!!
Message-ID: <006301c91fac$3681ec10$a385c430$@rick@verizon.net>

 

 

From: Paul Thomas [mailto:pthomas at kickgasfestival.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: 2008 Kick Gas Festival is almost here!!!

 

Hello All,

 

Just wanted to remind you that the 2008 Kick Gas Festival and Electric
Vehicle National Championships in San Diego are here in just over 2 weeks!
This is looking to be a biggie and we hope to see you there
(www.kickgasfestival.com <http://www.kickgasfestival.com/> ).  Check out the
Myspace page www.myspace.com/kickgasfestival.  Have a great day and we'll
see you at the 2008 Kick Gas Festival.  -Paul

 

 

Paul Thomas

Organizer

San Diego Kick Gas Festival

3444 Pringle Street

Suite 2

San Diego, CA  92110

P: 619-997-4560

F: 619-374-2396

 

 

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From brent.r.chapman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 13:38:38 2008
From: brent.r.chapman at gmail.com (Brent Chapman)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:38:38 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] East side of the Cascades?
Message-ID: <640da80809261338g6d9836b7pac11fbe257c17d52@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone on the East side of the Cascades running full time EV?

Cheers,
Brent
Bend OR
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From phil at hochstetler.com  Fri Sep 26 16:30:02 2008
From: phil at hochstetler.com (phil hochstetler)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:30:02 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Opportunity to evangelize EV's this Sunday AM
Message-ID: <37a5993b0809261630x2edcfd0el6090fef4180c787e@mail.gmail.com>

A private school in Hillsboro is sponsoring a 5K foot race (200-500 people)
this Sunday (Sept. 28th) morning, and is looking for an Electric Vehicle to
act as the "Pace Car".  The race raises money for the school which has a
strong environmental mission and takes place in Banks, OR.  Would anyone on
the list like to volunteer?  You would need to be able to drive to Banks by
8:30 AM and have enough range to drive the 5K race at 9AM.  After that you
are done so you could leave or stick around to charge up first.
Unfortunately, my EV project is not yet runing or I would do it.  Contact me
by Sat. night if you are interested.
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From david at synkromotive.com  Sat Sep 27 12:38:21 2008
From: david at synkromotive.com (David Boyd)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:38:21 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] SYNKRO DC spec sheet
Message-ID: <039FD91D-4263-4768-A2CA-EF4A489ED888@synkromotive.com>

Greetings again EVer's,
Here's a link to our first product specs, the 156V 700A DC motor  
controller. This is still in a pre-Beta phase, but the numbers so far  
look accurate. There are some additional features we need to add to  
the sheet, but you can get the overall performance and feature  
details. I'll be putting the Beta Program T&C up by Monday for those  
interested in participating. We will limit it to 15 people, on a  
first paid, first served basis. More details will follow shortly.
For now check out the spec sheet at:
www.synkromotive.com/prod_sheet.pdf

Cheers,
David Boyd
CEO
SYNKROmotive, LLC
david at synkromotive.com


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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 02:17:30 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:17:30 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] OEVA gets a Little PR for helping make Portland Green
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809280217g2374f752y9ae2819c7349e84d@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Kristen

http://www.riverwired.com/blog/portland-or-most-sustainable

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 23:07:05 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:07:05 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] New Electric Shuttles coming to Portland
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809282307k240062cbu8c30ed44643f5813@mail.gmail.com>

Toyota has manufactured four new electric powered shuttle cars. They are
going to be used as public transport in the Portland area after the new
implantation of electric car recharging and hybrid filling stations in the
area. These public transport electric vehicles are going to be the first in
a line of green transportation systems that are going to be available for
public use.

The cars are based around the already available RAV4 model, which is a
hybrid. The Portland state University is planning a travel scheme, using
these shuttle cars to transport students and/or staff through downtown and
suburban areas.

Toyota has also revealed plans to showcase new hybrids that run on
compressed natural gas and electricity, instead of standard unleaded gas and
electric. The cars will be shown off at the Los Angeles Auto Show in front
of thousands of potential buyers.

http://electricvehiclesite.com/2008/09/25/toyotas-new-shuttle-cars/

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 00:18:29 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:18:29 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Tesla Waiting List
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809290018n1bf12158p200eb084b22946a1@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone on the OEVA mailing list signed up to get a Tesla?

Tesla just did an event with Seattle EVA and waiting list folks up there.
It would be cool if we could get a demo Tesla to show here in Stumptown.

-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From barnes.rick at verizon.net  Mon Sep 29 00:15:15 2008
From: barnes.rick at verizon.net (Rick Barnes)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:15:15 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Electric Cars
Message-ID: <002d01c92203$1f2e63f0$5d8b2bd0$@rick@verizon.net>

OEVA:

 

Can you help Carollynn?

 

Rick Barnes

Aloha, OR

 

From: Carollynn Myers [mailto:cmyers at garten.org] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:39 PM
To: barnes.rick at verizon.net
Subject: Electric Cars

 

Hello

A co-worker of mine is interested in having his 90's Mazda Miata converted
to an electric vehicle. Im trying to find out where he needs to go..Do you
know of anyone in Oregon who does this? We are in Salem but Im sure he will
travel. Thanks

 

Carollynn Myers 

Program Specialist

Garten Packaging & Assembly

503-581-1984 Ext. 3512

503-779-3878 Cell

 

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From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 00:29:46 2008
From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:29:46 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Recent News Links
Message-ID: <83b7b17c0809290029qf017f49i105965915d186975@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
Here are some recent news links from the deployment of our recent charging
stations in and around Portland, sponsored by PGE (the local utility).
After the first couple links you'll get the idea, so you don't have to read
all of the articles.  Just thought I'd send them along in case you want more
details.

  '*Charging stations*' crop up as electric cars enter mainstream
*...*<http://www.katu.com/news/local/29632349.html>
KATU - Video - September 23, 2008

Free plug-in *stations* open for electric cars | Business | kgw.com
*...*<http://www.kgw.com/business/stories/kgw_092208_business_electric_cars.9f708953.html>
KGW - Video - September 22, 2008

 *SustainLane's* 2008 US *City* Rankings -
*SustainLane*.com<http://www.sustainlane.com/us-city-rankings/>
SustainLane - September 2008

*Portland*, OR, Most Sustainable |
*RiverWired*<http://www.riverwired.com/blog/portland-or-most-sustainable>
RiverWired - September 25, 2008

New age fill-up in *Lake Oswego* - Breaking News From Oregon
*...*<http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/09/new_age_fillup_in_lake_oswego.html>
Oregonian - September 22, 2008

PGE's new *stations* help electric cars 'fill
up'<http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=122214886554504700>
Portland Tribune - September 22, 2008

Current Issues: Plug-in Vehicle *Charging Stations* |
PGE<http://www.portlandgeneral.com/about_pge/current_issues/charging_stations.asp>
Portland General Electric

OPB News ? Oregon Public
Broadcasting<http://news.opb.org/article/3117-several-new-electric-car-charging-stations-now-portland-area/>
September 23, 2008

Electric car? Plug it
in.<http://www.topix.net/redir/loc=prss-mercircle/http=3A=2F=2Fwww.k103.com=2Fcc-common=2Fnews=2Fsections=2Fnewsarticle.html=3Ffeed=3D123543=26article=3D4280412>
K103 - September 22, 2008

Portland to electric car maker BYD Auto: Build your car here.
Please!<http://www.oregoncitynewsonline.com/sustainable/story.php?story_id=122090792762233800>
Sustainable Life - September 11, 2008

 Green Car Congress: *Portland General Electric* Developing Network
*...*<http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/08/portland-genera.html><http://www.oregoncitynewsonline.com/sustainable/story.php?story_id=122090792762233800>
Green Car Congress - August 2, 2008

PGE Puts In Electric Car Refueling
Stations<http://www.kptv.com/video/17032082/index.html>
FOX 12 Oregon - Video - July 2008

Article Details - *Daily Journal of
Commerce*<http://www.djcoregon.com/articleDetail.htm/2008/07/31/PGE-installs-filling-station-of-the-future-in-downtown-Portland-Utility-launches-demonstration-proje>
PGE installs 'filling station of the future' in downtown Portland - July 31,
2008

*PGE* Unveils EV *Charging
*<http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/16504>
Sustainable Business - July 31, 2008

 *PGE* opens *stations* around Portland for plug-in hybrids - Oregon
*...*<http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2008/07/pge_opens_stations_around_port.html>
Oregonian - July 30, 2008

*PGE* offers free 'fueling' *station* for electric cars | Local News
*...*<http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_072908_business_pge_plugin.157cdf36.html>
KGW - July 29, 2008

*PGE* predicts surge in hybrid vehicles, plans more plug ins
*...*<http://www.oregonlive.com/business/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/business/1215143716287160.xml&coll=7>
Oregonian - July 5, 2008

Article Details - *Daily Journal of
Commerce*<http://www.djcoregon.com/articleDetail.htm/2008/07/01/PGE-charges-up-for-plugin-hybrid-cars-Utility-partnering-with-ODOT-to-install-electricvehicle-chargi>
PGE charges up for plug-in hybrid cars - July 1, 2008

-- 
Jeff Kim
Chief Operating Officer
Shorepower Technologies
(503) 686-8844
jkim at shorepower.com
www.shorepower.com

New Address:
2351 NW York Street
Portland, OR 97210
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From kenneth_safe at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 29 19:29:29 2008
From: kenneth_safe at yahoo.com (Kenneth Safe)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:29:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] please take me off your mailer
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From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 30 07:55:06 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:55:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Charging station at Hillsdale library branch?
Message-ID: <328473.61329.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

  Does anyone have ideas for Matt in how to promote awareness of charging station at the Hillsdale branch of the Multnomah County Library?  Jeff, as charging station chair, do you have any thoughts?  Please respond to Matt directly.  (see below)

Cheers,
Tim
OEVA Chair



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "tim_kutscha at yahoo.com" <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>
To: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:24:16 PM
Subject: OEVA Contact Request from matt pettigrew

matt pettigrew (pettigrw at gmail.com) has sent you (office: chair) the following feedback from the OEVA website:

greetings,

i work for the multnomah county library at the hillsdale branch.  as you know, we have an electric vehicle charging station in our parking garage below the library.  however, it seems as though the station hardly ever gets used.  i was trying to think of some ways to promote the charging station so that various owners of electric vehicles in the area could use the station. my hope is that if more electric vehicle owners use the station(especially the zap zebra flash sedan!), then the public would be more exposed to them as they walk past the station. this may lead them to ask questions and ultimately find out about electric vehicle dealerships in the area.

the great thing about this particular station is that owners of electric vehicles can search around on the internet(w/ their own laptop or by using a library computer terminal) or even watch a dvd while their vehicle is charging.  

anyway, thanks for your time.  i'm just brainstorming here and seeing if you may able to provide me with some information or point me in the right direction.


best regards,
matt pettigrew


      
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From william.norris-york at intel.com  Tue Sep 30 10:00:50 2008
From: william.norris-york at intel.com (Norris-York, William)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:00:50 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Reliable machine shop
Message-ID: <4911F71203A09E4D9981D27F9D8308587E5A95@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com>

Where is the best machine shop to use to cut the aluminum I have for the transmission adapter plate?

Thanks,
Bill
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From brian at briannewmanmusic.com  Tue Sep 30 10:26:07 2008
From: brian at briannewmanmusic.com (Brian Newman)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:26:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Reliable machine shop
In-Reply-To: <4911F71203A09E4D9981D27F9D8308587E5A95@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com>
References: <4911F71203A09E4D9981D27F9D8308587E5A95@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com>
Message-ID: <6582da9b756db0810a231ee5074e3644@briannewmanmusic.com>

Bill,
I highly recommend	Manutek Inc. (I was a machinist there years ago) The 
owner, Paul Miller, is very knowledgeable with custom auto. They have 
an array of CNC machines and welding capabilities.
-Brian

Contact info:
http://www.manutekmfg.com/index.html
503/630-5999
1150 NW Commerce Ct. Estacada 97023
On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Norris-York, William wrote:

> Where is the best machine shop to use to cut the aluminum I have for 
> the transmission adapter plate?
> ?
> Thanks,
> Bill
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
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From evmail4ron at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 30 10:52:03 2008
From: evmail4ron at yahoo.com (Ron Jayasuriya)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:52:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] wanted: cars for AFV Day 10/3
Message-ID: <75711.70833.qm@web110108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I am putting together an armada of ev's for the upcoming Alternative Fuel Vehicles Day at PCC Sylvania this Friday 10/3.

If there are any members out there who could bring a car down please contact me for more information.

Thanks!

Ron Jayasuriya
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From gary.graunke at intel.com  Tue Sep 30 10:56:18 2008
From: gary.graunke at intel.com (Graunke, Gary)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:56:18 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] wanted: cars for AFV Day 10/3
In-Reply-To: <75711.70833.qm@web110108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <75711.70833.qm@web110108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9662F248D13E8C45B097A77F005E9729AB0493@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com>

I just faxed in my registration. I can bring my Insight and (unless you are already bringing your plug-in Prius) my plug-in Prius.

I'll plan on bringing my new canopy, table, and display.

Gary

________________________________
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of Ron Jayasuriya
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:52 AM
To: OEVA
Subject: [Oeva-list] wanted: cars for AFV Day 10/3

I am putting together an armada of ev's for the upcoming Alternative Fuel Vehicles Day at PCC Sylvania this Friday 10/3.

If there are any members out there who could bring a car down please contact me for more information.

Thanks!

Ron Jayasuriya
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From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 30 11:40:45 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Preliminary "Spirit of DC" PHEV3A Update ... for
	Seattle EVA, Vancouver EVA and Oregon EVA
Message-ID: <579825.28818.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

    I received this message about the "SpiritOfDC" educational tour from Rick Barnes.  The vehicle should be passing through sometime in the next 2-3 days.  If you go to spiritofdc.com and click on the MAP link, it'll show you exactly where the car is in real time.


Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair
-------------------------------------

From:Jerry Asher Sent:Wednesday, September
24, 2008 10:37 PM
Subject:Preliminary
"Spirit of DC" PHEV3A Update ... for Seattle EVA, Vancouver EVA and
Oregon EVA
 
Cheers
Seattle EVA'rs (Steve & Donna, John, Bruce, Don, "Father Time,"
et al), Vancouver EVA'rs (Don, John, Walter, Alan, John, Gordon, Haakon et al),
and Oregon EVA'rs (Rick, Eric, Gary, Paul, Brad & Donna, John, Scott, et
al) - 
    Below
is a preliminary "Spirit of DC" Plug-in Hybrid EV All Around America
(PHEV3A) update (to be posted more graphically and colorfully on the www.SpiritofDC.com website).  Right
now, the "Spirit" has visited her 33rd State Capital - Salt Lake City
... and her 19th EAA Chapter - the Utah EV Coalition (UEVC) members at a superb
get-together with some 300 kids at the Morningside Elementary School. 
   
On Friday, the 25th of September, the "Spirit" moveth to Boise, Idaho
- the 34th State Capital, ... to Helena, Montana - the 35th ... afterwards,
it's back to Idaho to 'rendez vous' with the Panhandle EVA members near Spokane,
Washington, which may be probably late Sunday evening. 
  
Probably on Tuesday, 29 September (depending perhaps on Media EVents with the
"Spirit"), it's on to Seattle, Vancouver, Victoria, Olympia, Portland
and Salem ... .  What's going on day- by-day is not so certain, only the
routing and hypermiling EVforts on blue highways.  But hopefully,
telephonic notice within 48 hours will be there.  However, you can track
the "Spirit" by clicking on "MAP" on www.SpiritofDC.com. 
   
Now do peruse the below update. 
EVer from
Salt Lake City, 
"Spirit
of DC" & EVJerry Asher  (202) 486-5450 
   
.  
The Spirit
of DC?s? PHEV 3A? EVDUCATIONAL TOUR: 
The Plug-in H ybrid Electric V ehicle 
Traveling All A round A merica ! 
..Because seeing is believing. 
Join us and
the thousands who will get to see History in the making -- creating the first
EVer All American Prius PHEV ? and maybe influence some of it - during this
groundbreaking EVenture: a state-by-state ?show & tell? of the excitingly
real, astoundingly practical plug-in-powered vehicle that spells FREEDOM of
choice and FREEDOM from America's slavish reliance on gas! 
? 101 MPG assisted with electric opportune recharging as the projected Goal
or cuss! 
The
Spirit of DCUpdating: 
The
Spirit of DCaimed ideally high ? 10,201 miles in at least 101 days along
with a daily 101 MPG, as achieved through plugging in standard 110-volt
electricity for recharging as much as possible. Now all in a good cause, the
?Spirit? wanted to introduce Americans across the landto the real and
practical Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle ? a real-life demonstration of
real-life capabilities that we can do NOW. The ?Father of the Modern Plug-In
Hybrid,? University of California at Davis Professor Andy Frank, said, "A
long electric range PHEV is first an EV," and we consider our PHEV the
"Spirit of DC" in the same way! Yet, realities do set in. See www.SpiritofDC.com 
While it?s
still real for PHEVs to provide America desperately in need of a viable
choice -- something that?s a realistic, appealing alternative to $4 and $5 per
gallon gas, ?, something that?s environmentally clean and lean, as in
plugging-in at 60?80? worth of Kilowatts of electricity at the GGE (gasoline
gallon equivalent) rate! The ?Spirit? has to re-adjust the daily goal of 101MPG
assisted by electricity to that of hitting six five-minute increment of
101MPG in a row, as shown on the Prius screen for Consumption. Simply and
essentially put, this is due the lead acid battery limitations and availability
of charging outlets, as well as time constraints in a 24-hour day. However,
that re-adjusted goal could change dramatically ? should Nickel Metal Hydride
(NMH) ? or even Lithium Ion (Li-ion) batteries appear for the ?Spirit of DC?s?
use. 
What then
back in April, 2008, seemed ideally possible within a 101-day timeframe has
morphed into a 1,001 Nights of Eventure! So that takes some adjusting!
Particularly in view of time and climate constraints with Autumn fast
approaching and a return to DC ? fingers crossed before Thanksgiving. 
The
diminishing financial resources that need replenishing are also to be factored
in. For example, the ?Spirit? has traveled some 11,000 miles all around the
Eastern Coast and into Canada several times, across the MidWest and thru the
Rocky Mountains ... with the first submitted gasoline bills and tolls
amounting to well over $550. The electricity for charging has been really at
?no cost.? Also, the graphic signage for the ?Spirit? is over $500. Lodging
costs, maintenance and miscellaneous expenses remain to be tallied. Note:
EVJerry here has taken on his on meal expenses. 
So, in view
of the wintry weather prospective, the ?Spirit of DC? PHEV3A EVducational Tour
intends to do at least the Lower 48 State Capitals plus Vancouver,
Canada. Later on, should financial resources become available, the ?Spirit?s?
game to be back and taking on Juneau, Alaska and Honolulu, Hawaii. Aside from
postponing a visit with Alaska EAA Members, the ?Spirit of DC?s? goal of
meeting up with EAA Members in some 50 separate Chapters in the Lower 48 States
and Canada remains in tact. And even visiting new EAA Chapters developing along
the way back to Washington, DC, such as the Sun Coast EVA in Central Florida,
and prospective ones in New Mexico and Arkansas! 
The rationale
in the first place for PHEV3A remains the same -- the ?Spirit of DC? as a Prius
PHEV is first an electric vehicle. The PHEV3A Committee believe PHEVs provide
an alternative to using gasoline while it?s gas at nearly $4/gallon, by
providing the choice of plugging-in at 60, 70, 80 cents worth of GGE Kilowatts!
In brief, it?s about Freedom of Choice! 
The
Spirit of DC PHEV 3 ATour is enabled through the participation of those who
routinely contribute uncommon energies and resources, on the PHEV3A
Committeelike: 
? Conversions
by Mike Harvey with Angelique Atkins at Harvey Coachworks, Knoxville , MD - www.HarveyEV.com <Angelique.Atkins at HarveyEV.com> 
? PHEV system components from Robb Protheroe - Plug-in Supply, Petaluma, CA www.PluginSupply.com <Robb at PluginSupply.com> 
? Specialized rear springs made readily available from Caroline Coquilletten of
Luscious Garage, San Francisco, CA www.LusiousGarage.com                                                          
? APRS (Automatic Position Recording Systems) tracking from Professor Bob
Bruninga Bruninga at usna.edu 
? ?Spirit of DC? Graphics designed by Chip Gribben FuturEV at radix.net                                 
? Upgrading the "Spirit" with CAN Circuit Boards by Chris Ewert from
Fox Valley EAA Chris at InfoLaunch.com                                                               
We are also
grateful to the many within the Electric Vehicle Association of Greater
Washington, DC (EVADC ) who generously donate materials, expertise, time, and money ? resources
critical in keeping The "Spirit of DC" PHEV3A show on the road, since
the "Power of DC" on 31 May 2008. And particularly those outside
EVADC as well, whose willingness to join in provided synergy and EVnthusiasm to
PHEV3A EVducational Tour. Especially important is the synergy from the PHEV3A
Committee and the Team Work encountered along the Blue Highways of North
America from EAA Members, which is opened to one and all. 
Your
donations of money, time, or materials (batteries; a place to stay for the
driver; meals; media attention, electricity; etc.) make all the difference.
It's team work for sure.  Don?t pass up the opportunity to give progress a
jump start ? join The Spirit of DC PHEV3A effort, and be a
team player in helping America wake up to the electrifying possibilities!
The ?Spirit? only has 15 more State Capitals to visit and
some 30 separate EAA Memberships before triumphantly coming back to an
?All American? Return to Washington, DC! 
Thinking
of becoming a Sponsor? Contact PHEV3A Co-Chairs:
? At our
virtual PHEV3A operations Center - Joseph Lado joelado at yahoo.comand 
? ?On the Road? PHEV3A driver "EVJerry" Asher at EVisionA2Z at usa.netcell (202) 486-5450. 
Thinking
of making a PHEV3A-denoted donation? Contact PHEV3A Treasurer: 
? PHEV3A
Treasurer, Bryan Murtha, Murtha at comcast.net 
7105 Persimmon Lane 
Owings, MD 20736 

? EVer yours, 
 Joseph Lado, EVJerry Asher, and the PHEV 3A Committee. 



Chapters
Relations 
Electric Auto Association 
Post Office Box 651 
Bisbee, AZ  85603 
(520) 432-3227 - Home 
(202) 486-5450 - Evening/Weekend Cell 


      
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From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 30 18:31:17 2008
From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:31:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Looking for OEVA webmaster and local EV business links
Message-ID: <709928.58524.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi OEVA members,

 I just spent the better part of this afternoon cleaning up the website and creating links to local EV businesses on the "links" page.  Please review the site (www.oeva.org) and offer any additions/corrections to the links page if you know of more Oregon EV businesses.
  We're also looking for a new webmaster, or at least someone who knows HTML and can update the web content from time to time.  If you're interested in contributing this way, please let me know.

Cheers,
Tim Kutscha
OEVA Chair


      
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 21:07:03 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:07:03 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Charging station at Hillsdale library branch?
In-Reply-To: <328473.61329.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <328473.61329.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8c28d7b50809302107j376e6c7bx4fba942b6b948b59@mail.gmail.com>

I'd think it would be a good idea to make a "Welcome to EV driving" package
that we could give to out to new EV drivers.  It could include a charging
station location list and an invitation to join OEVA.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Tim Kutscha <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>   Does anyone have ideas for Matt in how to promote awareness of charging
> station at the Hillsdale branch of the Multnomah County Library?  Jeff, as
> charging station chair, do you have any thoughts?  Please respond to Matt
> directly.  (see below)
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> OEVA Chair
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: "tim_kutscha at yahoo.com" <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>
> To: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:24:16 PM
> Subject: OEVA Contact Request from matt pettigrew
>
> matt pettigrew (pettigrw at gmail.com) has sent you (office: chair) the
> following feedback from the OEVA website:
>
> greetings,
>
> i work for the multnomah county library at the hillsdale branch.  as you
> know, we have an electric vehicle charging station in our parking garage
> below the library.  however, it seems as though the station hardly ever gets
> used.  i was trying to think of some ways to promote the charging station so
> that various owners of electric vehicles in the area could use the station.
> my hope is that if more electric vehicle owners use the station(especially
> the zap zebra flash sedan!), then the public would be more exposed to them
> as they walk past the station. this may lead them to ask questions and
> ultimately find out about electric vehicle dealerships in the area.
>
> the great thing about this particular station is that owners of electric
> vehicles can search around on the internet(w/ their own laptop or by using a
> library computer terminal) or even watch a dvd while their vehicle is
> charging.
>
> anyway, thanks for your time.  i'm just brainstorming here and seeing if
> you may able to provide me with some information or point me in the right
> direction.
>
>
> best regards,
> matt pettigrew
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>
>


-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From tony at notebene.net  Tue Sep 30 22:30:21 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:30:21 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Charging station at Hillsdale library branch?
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References: <328473.61329.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<8c28d7b50809302107j376e6c7bx4fba942b6b948b59@mail.gmail.com>
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It's an Avcon.  It's only good for folks that can charge using that 
setup.   Dan and his production Ford ranger can but he live two blocks 
away so, not very useful for him.
--Tony

patrick0101 at gmail.com wrote:
> I'd think it would be a good idea to make a "Welcome to EV driving" 
> package that we could give to out to new EV drivers.  It could include 
> a charging station location list and an invitation to join OEVA.
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Tim Kutscha <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi All,
>
>       Does anyone have ideas for Matt in how to promote awareness of
>     charging station at the Hillsdale branch of the Multnomah County
>     Library?  Jeff, as charging station chair, do you have any
>     thoughts?  Please respond to Matt directly.  (see below)
>
>     Cheers,
>     Tim
>     OEVA Chair
>
>     ----- Forwarded Message ----
>     From: "tim_kutscha at yahoo.com <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>"
>     <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>>
>     To: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>
>     Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:24:16 PM
>     Subject: OEVA Contact Request from matt pettigrew
>
>     matt pettigrew (pettigrw at gmail.com <mailto:pettigrw at gmail.com>)
>     has sent you (office: chair) the following feedback from the OEVA
>     website:
>
>     greetings,
>
>     i work for the multnomah county library at the hillsdale branch. 
>     as you know, we have an electric vehicle charging station in our
>     parking garage below the library.  however, it seems as though the
>     station hardly ever gets used.  i was trying to think of some ways
>     to promote the charging station so that various owners of electric
>     vehicles in the area could use the station. my hope is that if
>     more electric vehicle owners use the station(especially the zap
>     zebra flash sedan!), then the public would be more exposed to them
>     as they walk past the station. this may lead them to ask questions
>     and ultimately find out about electric vehicle dealerships in the
>     area.
>
>     the great thing about this particular station is that owners of
>     electric vehicles can search around on the internet(w/ their own
>     laptop or by using a library computer terminal) or even watch a
>     dvd while their vehicle is charging. 
>
>     anyway, thanks for your time.  i'm just brainstorming here and
>     seeing if you may able to provide me with some information or
>     point me in the right direction.
>
>
>     best regards,
>     matt pettigrew
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Pat
> Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
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http://www.backporchrevival.com


From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 22:41:37 2008
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:41:37 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Charging station at Hillsdale library branch?
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	<48E30AED.8040709@notebene.net>
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There are Avcon converters that allow it to be used for other vehicles as
well.  I agree that it is important that people know what type of charging
station is there: Avcon, LPI, SPI, 120V, 240V with Amp and plug type(s)...


On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Tony McCormick <tony at notebene.net> wrote:

> It's an Avcon.  It's only good for folks that can charge using that
> setup.   Dan and his production Ford ranger can but he live two blocks
> away so, not very useful for him.
> --Tony
>
> patrick0101 at gmail.com wrote:
> > I'd think it would be a good idea to make a "Welcome to EV driving"
> > package that we could give to out to new EV drivers.  It could include
> > a charging station location list and an invitation to join OEVA.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Tim Kutscha <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com
> > <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi All,
> >
> >       Does anyone have ideas for Matt in how to promote awareness of
> >     charging station at the Hillsdale branch of the Multnomah County
> >     Library?  Jeff, as charging station chair, do you have any
> >     thoughts?  Please respond to Matt directly.  (see below)
> >
> >     Cheers,
> >     Tim
> >     OEVA Chair
> >
> >     ----- Forwarded Message ----
> >     From: "tim_kutscha at yahoo.com <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>"
> >     <tim_kutscha at yahoo.com <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>>
> >     To: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com <mailto:tim_kutscha at yahoo.com>
> >     Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:24:16 PM
> >     Subject: OEVA Contact Request from matt pettigrew
> >
> >     matt pettigrew (pettigrw at gmail.com <mailto:pettigrw at gmail.com>)
> >     has sent you (office: chair) the following feedback from the OEVA
> >     website:
> >
> >     greetings,
> >
> >     i work for the multnomah county library at the hillsdale branch.
> >     as you know, we have an electric vehicle charging station in our
> >     parking garage below the library.  however, it seems as though the
> >     station hardly ever gets used.  i was trying to think of some ways
> >     to promote the charging station so that various owners of electric
> >     vehicles in the area could use the station. my hope is that if
> >     more electric vehicle owners use the station(especially the zap
> >     zebra flash sedan!), then the public would be more exposed to them
> >     as they walk past the station. this may lead them to ask questions
> >     and ultimately find out about electric vehicle dealerships in the
> >     area.
> >
> >     the great thing about this particular station is that owners of
> >     electric vehicles can search around on the internet(w/ their own
> >     laptop or by using a library computer terminal) or even watch a
> >     dvd while their vehicle is charging.
> >
> >     anyway, thanks for your time.  i'm just brainstorming here and
> >     seeing if you may able to provide me with some information or
> >     point me in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >     best regards,
> >     matt pettigrew
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Pat
> > Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
> --
> Tony McCormick
> --------------------------------
> http://www.notebene.net &
> http://www.backporchrevival.com
>
-- 
Regards,
Pat
Sunlight will never cost $4/gallon
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From tony at notebene.net  Tue Sep 30 22:42:07 2008
From: tony at notebene.net (Tony McCormick)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:42:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Looking for OEVA webmaster and local EV business
 links
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Message-ID: <48E30DAF.6030004@notebene.net>

Nice work!  Thanks!
--Tony

Tim Kutscha wrote:
> Hi OEVA members,
>
>  I just spent the better part of this afternoon cleaning up the 
> website and creating links to local EV businesses on the "links" 
> page.  Please review the site (www.oeva.org) and offer any 
> additions/corrections to the links page if you know of more Oregon EV 
> businesses.
>   We're also looking for a new webmaster, or at least someone who 
> knows HTML and can update the web content from time to time.  If 
> you're interested in contributing this way, please let me know.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim Kutscha
> OEVA Chair
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>   

-- 
Tony McCormick
--------------------------------
http://www.notebene.net &
http://www.backporchrevival.com