From richard.reinoehl at verizon.net Tue Dec 1 20:54:45 2009 From: richard.reinoehl at verizon.net (richard.reinoehl at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:54:45 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Oeva-list] Holiday Party Message-ID: <29498548.10549.1259729685765.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> Good news, we will have live music. Ken Potter is bringing his acoustic guitar and I'm bringing rhythm instruments. Ken has a great play list for our listening pleasure; I'm looking forward to playing with him. A concern: assuming we have the same turn-out for our social event as regular meetings we will only have about $5 per person for food and drink. Therefore it would be nice if more members were bringing a dish or drink to share. Even a couple bottles of soda or a couple bags of chips would be a nice addition. Richard From john.p.christian at intel.com Wed Dec 2 09:21:06 2009 From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:21:06 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Holiday Party In-Reply-To: <29498548.10549.1259729685765.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> References: <29498548.10549.1259729685765.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Good stuff Richard - thanks for making this work. I will be bringing food and some chips. John P. Christian (503) 712-8147 - desk (503) 704-2155 - mobile -----Original Message----- From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of richard.reinoehl at verizon.net Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:55 PM To: oeva-list at oeva.org Subject: [Oeva-list] Holiday Party Good news, we will have live music. Ken Potter is bringing his acoustic guitar and I'm bringing rhythm instruments. Ken has a great play list for our listening pleasure; I'm looking forward to playing with him. A concern: assuming we have the same turn-out for our social event as regular meetings we will only have about $5 per person for food and drink. Therefore it would be nice if more members were bringing a dish or drink to share. Even a couple bottles of soda or a couple bags of chips would be a nice addition. Richard _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list From richard.reinoehl at verizon.net Wed Dec 2 17:52:33 2009 From: richard.reinoehl at verizon.net (richard.reinoehl at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:52:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Oeva-list] Party Message-ID: <282097662.201256.1259805153833.JavaMail.root@vms183.mailsrvcs.net> John, I appreciate your complement and want to pass it on to the other members of the party team who have been working hard to make it happen. They are: Linda Snipes, Phil Hochstetler, "Bubba" (Daniel Conway), and Jeff Kim. Also, many thanks for everyone who is bringing food and drink - every bit helps. Richard ======================== Good stuff Richard - thanks for making this work. I will be bringing food and some chips. John P. Christian From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 22:28:07 2009 From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:28:07 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Party In-Reply-To: <282097662.201256.1259805153833.JavaMail.root@vms183.mailsrvcs.net> References: <282097662.201256.1259805153833.JavaMail.root@vms183.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <83b7b17c0912022228m785e7b39m4ef28a17f963054c@mail.gmail.com> Richard, As discussed with you, I'll bring some 2-liter bottles of soda and cups. Jeff On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM, wrote: > John, > > I appreciate your complement and want to pass it on to the other members of > the party team who have been working hard to make it happen. They are: > Linda Snipes, Phil Hochstetler, "Bubba" (Daniel Conway), and Jeff Kim. > > Also, many thanks for everyone who is bringing food and drink - every bit > helps. > > Richard > > ======================== > > Good stuff Richard - thanks for making this work. > > I will be bringing food and some chips. > > John P. Christian > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091202/d5100f53/attachment.html From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Sat Dec 5 08:44:11 2009 From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:44:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oeva-list] working Gast vacuum pump system for brakes available for $50 Message-ID: <21006.6976.qm@web110516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi All, I hope your holiday season is going well. I have a fully working Gast vacuum pump system available for sale if anyone wants it for $50. This system comes with the pump, a one-way valve, a vacuum chamber, some fittings, the pressure switch and some mounting hardware. I originally purchased it from EV-supply for $350 but replaced it with a much quieter MES pump from Metric Mind. Again, this system fully works but makes a bit of noise. Please contact me (tim_kutscha at yahoo dot com) if you'd like more information. I'll bring the system to the OEVA Holiday party this coming Thursday. Cheers, Tim From patrick0101 at gmail.com Sat Dec 5 14:47:16 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:47:16 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Greenlings Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912051447r66711d30l919867c430e70b8b@mail.gmail.com> Autoblog Green has a section called Greenlings. This section is "the newbies guide to green motoring". They answer questions like 'what is the difference between a kilowatt and a kilowatt-hour?' and how they relate to EV motors and batteries; "you don't need 90kWh battery pack for a 90kW motor". Topics include winter range reduction, vehicle weight and more in plain English. http://green.autoblog.com/category/greenlings/ Cheers, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091205/ed77e1ce/attachment.html From c.bakken at rogue-energy.com Mon Dec 7 10:46:00 2009 From: c.bakken at rogue-energy.com (c.bakken) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:46:00 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] 24 Thunder Sky 100Ah Cells Available - NEW Message-ID: <002601ca776d$86208820$92619860$@bakken@rogue-energy.com> Were working with these cells and decided to go with the stiffer Headways for our project. The 20 Cells are from EVC and have been subjected to only very light bench testing by Ives Meadors at SynkroMotive. We will let these go if all 20 go at once for $125 each or $2,500 and will deliver them locally (Portland area). We paid $139 each, $120 plus with the associated freight and duties. Call or email. Chris Bakken President, Rogue Energy LLC c.bakken at rogue-energy.com chris at synkromotive.com Cell - (503) 784-2454 image002 ***The material and content contained within this email communication is Confidential, and its unauthorized distribution is prohibited and intended only for the aforementioned parties to this communication. This confidential message is bound by the Non-Disclosure Agreements covenants of Rogue Energy, L.L.C. and Synkro Motive, LLC inclusive and applies to the recipient parties of this electronic communication and/or documentation.*** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091207/cbd7aa6a/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 2150 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20091207/cbd7aa6a/attachment.jpe From patrick0101 at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 22:51:20 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:51:20 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nathan Abbott Recovery Fund Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912072251p11ac3875wb7a04b012487e486@mail.gmail.com> Nathan Abbott came to Oregon to buy a Brammo Enertia with the idea of driving it all the way back home to Atlanta GA. At ~40 miles per charge, it was going to be a long 25-day adventure. However, his trip was cut short before he ever made it out of our state. He was hit by a 20-year-old in an Audi A4. He suffered serious injuries and was in a coma for three days. He recently woke up from the coma (on Nov 30th). One week later he is doing a little better, his feeding tube is out, he's awake more often, and he's communicating. He is out of the ICU and now in TracU. It is a small step in the right direction. I will be collecting for his recovery fund at the December meeting, if you would like to make a donation. If you will not be at the meeting, or prefer to donate online, you can do so at: http://www.giveforward.org/idiot/ The fund has a meager $5000 goal and is currently at ~$2800. Every small donation helps. You can make a positive impact. Forgive the "idiot" portion of the URL. Nathan summed up his (then pending) adventure with these 99 characters ?One idiot, 3,800 miles, & an electric motorcycle with a 42-mile range. What could possibly go wrong??. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091207/9ee91171/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 10:01:07 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:01:07 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nathan Abbott Recovery Fund In-Reply-To: References: <8c28d7b50912072251p11ac3875wb7a04b012487e486@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912081001g2a79bd37u4f7c8d2ef4fa72ba@mail.gmail.com> Here is a video about Nathan: http://bit.ly/7KfBxQ Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Travis Gintz wrote: > Thank you Pat for setting this up. I know his family appreciates all of the > support. > > I have also taken donations via the elmoto.net website from some of the > other members. We plan on getting him a little gift and card when people are > able to start visiting (not allowed right now). I'm in close contact with > his mother and she's been updating me on his status. Its looking positive, > but he's still got a ways to go. I'll try to update as I find out more. > > I wish I could be there at the thursday meeting, but I have another meeting > that conflicts..... Thanks a ton Pat for doing this. > > Regards, > Travis Gintz > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM, wrote: > >> Nathan Abbott came to Oregon to buy a Brammo Enertia with the idea of >> driving it all the way back home to Atlanta GA. At ~40 miles per charge, it >> was going to be a long 25-day adventure. However, his trip was cut short >> before he ever made it out of our state. He was hit by a 20-year-old in an >> Audi A4. He suffered serious injuries and was in a coma for three days. He >> recently woke up from the coma (on Nov 30th). One week later he is doing a >> little better, his feeding tube is out, he's awake more often, and he's >> communicating. He is out of the ICU and now in TracU. It is a small step in >> the right direction. >> >> I will be collecting for his recovery fund at the December meeting, if you >> would like to make a donation. If you will not be at the meeting, or prefer >> to donate online, you can do so at: http://www.giveforward.org/idiot/ >> >> The fund has a meager $5000 goal and is currently at ~$2800. Every small >> donation helps. You can make a positive impact. >> >> Forgive the "idiot" portion of the URL. Nathan summed up his (then >> pending) adventure with these 99 characters ?One idiot, 3,800 miles, & an >> electric motorcycle with a 42-mile range. What could possibly go wrong??. >> >> Regards, >> Pat >> With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Oeva-list mailing list >> Oeva-list at oeva.org >> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list >> >> > > > -- > Travis Gintz > 1986 Honda VFR DC conversion > Http://blog.evfr.net/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091208/fa7f3a7a/attachment.html From frodus17 at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 09:31:13 2009 From: frodus17 at gmail.com (Travis Gintz) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:31:13 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nathan Abbott Recovery Fund In-Reply-To: <8c28d7b50912072251p11ac3875wb7a04b012487e486@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c28d7b50912072251p11ac3875wb7a04b012487e486@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Pat for setting this up. I know his family appreciates all of the support. I have also taken donations via the elmoto.net website from some of the other members. We plan on getting him a little gift and card when people are able to start visiting (not allowed right now). I'm in close contact with his mother and she's been updating me on his status. Its looking positive, but he's still got a ways to go. I'll try to update as I find out more. I wish I could be there at the thursday meeting, but I have another meeting that conflicts..... Thanks a ton Pat for doing this. Regards, Travis Gintz On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM, wrote: > Nathan Abbott came to Oregon to buy a Brammo Enertia with the idea of > driving it all the way back home to Atlanta GA. At ~40 miles per charge, it > was going to be a long 25-day adventure. However, his trip was cut short > before he ever made it out of our state. He was hit by a 20-year-old in an > Audi A4. He suffered serious injuries and was in a coma for three days. He > recently woke up from the coma (on Nov 30th). One week later he is doing a > little better, his feeding tube is out, he's awake more often, and he's > communicating. He is out of the ICU and now in TracU. It is a small step in > the right direction. > > I will be collecting for his recovery fund at the December meeting, if you > would like to make a donation. If you will not be at the meeting, or prefer > to donate online, you can do so at: http://www.giveforward.org/idiot/ > > The fund has a meager $5000 goal and is currently at ~$2800. Every small > donation helps. You can make a positive impact. > > Forgive the "idiot" portion of the URL. Nathan summed up his (then pending) > adventure with these 99 characters ?One idiot, 3,800 miles, & an electric > motorcycle with a 42-mile range. What could possibly go wrong??. > > Regards, > Pat > With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -- Travis Gintz 1986 Honda VFR DC conversion Http://blog.evfr.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091208/2da51e18/attachment.html From john.p.christian at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 12:32:00 2009 From: john.p.christian at gmail.com (John Christian) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:32:00 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Exclusive showing of the Nissan Leaf - for OEVA members Message-ID: Dear OEVA members You're Invited! The Nissan LEAF is on a nationwide tour and headed to Oregon. This will be the first time people in the United States will be able to see the five-passenger, five-door, gasoline-free car. You are invited to attend a one hour exclusive event with Nissan executives Mark Perry, EV Program Manager and Brian Verprauskus, Senior Manager Corporate Planning. When: Thursday, December 17th Time: 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM Where: OMSI, 1945 SE Water Avenue, Portland OR 97214 Agenda: 30 Min Nissan presentation - LEAF overview 15 Min Q & A (If the group has anything to present they would do so here) 15 Min Wrap up and LEAF viewing Please note that we must keep each session at one hour only as other groups will be transitioning in. RSVP: John Christian OEVA Chairman - john.p.christian at gmail.com For additional information on the LEAF at their website: http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/#/car/intro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091208/765322f3/attachment.html From pusa411 at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 14:23:00 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:23:00 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Pick our Pizza and Nathan. Message-ID: <793086120912081423s70bde9b4o94a5bb3edc08754f@mail.gmail.com> I hope one of you industrious folks will t / manage donations at the Party for, The Nathan Abbott Recovery Fund I need to tell the Pizza Man what our mix of pizzas are.. He wanted to days notice.. ... THX.. Daniel T "Bubba" Conway -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091208/69619d3d/attachment.html From JRAB at e-m-w.com Wed Dec 9 02:16:15 2009 From: JRAB at e-m-w.com (John Benson) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:16:15 +0100 Subject: [Oeva-list] Free Chargers to early Nissan Leaf adopters (Seattle, Portland...) Message-ID: <65BF93F1-22C3-49FE-827F-30CAE2719E46@E-M-W.COM> "CHICAGO ? Motorists purchasing the new Nissan Leaf electric vehicle when introduced in late 2010 will get a helping hand, a free recharging station installed at their home. There's a catch of course: The $1,500 to $2,000 recharging system will be a limited bonus given away to the first 1,000 Leaf buyers in selected areas of Seattle, Phoenix, Portland, San Diego and Tennessee" http://wardsauto.com/ar/leaf_charging_system_091202/ It doesn't say what capacity the charger is though. Would be pretty nice if it was the 220 or even 110/220/480 JRAB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091209/9adc8b24/attachment.html From richard.reinoehl at verizon.net Wed Dec 9 19:47:18 2009 From: richard.reinoehl at verizon.net (richard.reinoehl at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:47:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Oeva-list] Party Message-ID: <205930130.82987.1260416838099.JavaMail.root@vms226.mailsrvcs.net> We've good food for our meeting tomorrow, and live music - performed by the OEVA Acoustic Rock Trio. This is their premier performance before a live audience, so I know that they will receive a warm welcome. Also, there is a team of six members who's efforts have made our party concept into a happening thing, they will be introduced to us all at our meeting. Looking forward to our time to eat and visit, Richard From pusa411 at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 20:29:29 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:29:29 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Holiday Party! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <793086120912092029t40648ecckbaa099157ba9ceba@mail.gmail.com> I talked with the Pizza Man.. I will add an extra. suggested mix..: 1x Veggie 1x Garlic Chicken 1x Peperoni 2x Hawaiian 2x Combo 2x Meat Lover When is dinner? Hot and Fresh Pizza is best.. so I will bring em direct from the Oven in Orchards to World Trade. ASAP ...I'm donating Oreos, Milk and Brownie drops THX.. Daniel T "Bubba" Conway Premium-Opto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091209/8e8eefec/attachment.html From richard.reinoehl at verizon.net Thu Dec 10 00:10:08 2009 From: richard.reinoehl at verizon.net (richard.reinoehl at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:10:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Oeva-list] Holiday Party! Message-ID: <766397565.68190.1260432608826.JavaMail.root@vms231.mailsrvcs.net> Bubba, Why don't you arrive just before the time the meeting usually starts (people are usually still arriving during that 30 minute 'social' time). Once you arrive we can tell folks to start heading in, and we can be getting the pizza laid out while they wander up. I'm thinking that members may be a little hungrier than usual by then, but then they will enjoy the food even more. I'm thinking (perhaps wrongly) that people will be expecting the 'party', ie, food, to start at the usual meeting time. If folks say they wish we would have started food earlier, we can say, "what a great idea, let's do that next time". Looking forward to your arrival. I'm already thinking of you as Santa Clause. Richard =========================================== I talked with the Pizza Man.. I will add an extra. suggested mix..: 1x Veggie 1x Garlic Chicken 1x Peperoni 2x Hawaiian 2x Combo 2x Meat Lover When is dinner?? Hot and Fresh Pizza is best.. so I will bring em direct from ?the Oven in Orchards to World Trade. ASAP ...I'm donating Oreos, Milk and Brownie drops THX.. ? ? ? ? ? ? Daniel T "Bubba" Conway Premium-Opto From jdaschel at embarqmail.com Thu Dec 10 10:40:13 2009 From: jdaschel at embarqmail.com (Joanne Daschel) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:40:13 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Electric car friendly on the coast-- coming soon Message-ID: <000e01ca79c8$365ee810$0202a8c0@SonyVAIO> Hi OEVA members-- just wanted to share our great news in Lincoln City! Of course OEVA folks can always stop by our place for an emergency charge, we are located near the outlet mall in the middle of town, email me in advance. --Joanne Daschel City gets all charged up about cars Electric vehicle charging stations to be installed PATRICK ALEXANDER The News Guard Lincoln City is aiming to plug into increased interest in green transportation by installing six electric vehicle charging stations to cater to environmentally conscious visitors. The City has contracted with the California-based Coulomb Technologies and its Washington-based distributor, Charge Northwest, to buy six charging stations at a cost of $21,000. Money for the stations will come from the Visitor & Convention Bureau, the City department charged with bringing visitors to the community. Sandy Pfaff, executive director at the VCB, said the department's online surveys have revealed a growing interest in electric vehicles as visitors look to minimize the emissions caused by their vacations. "People are acknowledging that they are concerned about the environment, moving to hybrid cars for their travels," she said. "So the consumer interest is picking up substantially." Kurt Olsen, director of the Lincoln City Urban Renewal Agency, said the list of potential locations for the machines includes the newly completed parking lot in Taft, the community center, the cultural center and the N.W. 17th Street parking lot in Oceanlake. Pfaff said she will seek guidance from Council as to whether the stations should be grouped in one location or divided between two or more sites. The City expects to install the machines after Council's Dec. 14 meeting. Coulomb Technologies spokesperson Anne Smith said the company's Level 1 machine, which operates at 110 volts and 16 amps, takes about eight hours to fully charge an electric vehicle, depending on the battery. Olsen said those charging times will be cut in half in the Spring after the company swaps out the 110-volt models for the new, Level 2 version, which operates at up to 240 volts and 30 amps. Smith said the Level 2 machine takes about four hours to fully charge an electric vehicle, again depending on the battery. Olsen said the charging time helped shape the shortlist of potential charging station sites. He said staff has proposed locations in pedestrian-friendly areas of town, where visitors can go to shops and other attractions on foot or by bus while waiting for their vehicle to recharge. While the charging stations would be perfect for day-trippers, Olsen said, the City is hopeful that some electric vehicle drivers will choose to stay overnight and bring business to local hotels. Pfaff said the City will market the charging stations through its e-newsletter as well as asking local hotels and restaurants to pass the news on to their customers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091210/bb019c66/attachment.html From c.bakken at rogue-energy.com Thu Dec 10 16:02:25 2009 From: c.bakken at rogue-energy.com (c.bakken) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:02:25 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] TS 100Ah Cells (24) Available - New Price Message-ID: <002a01ca79f5$38c71500$aa553f00$@bakken@rogue-energy.com> My previous posting had an error. There are in fact 24 cells not 20 and the price for all 24 has just dropped to $120 each (we will pay freight within the area). The total is $2,880 for the batch. Were working with these cells and decided to go with the stiffer Headways for our project. The 24 Cells are from EVC and have been subjected to only very light bench testing by Ives Meadors at SynkroMotive. We paid $139 each, $120 plus with the associated freight and duties. Call or email. Chris Bakken President, Rogue Energy LLC c.bakken at rogue-energy.com chris at synkromotive.com Cell - (503) 784-2454 image002 ***The material and content contained within this email communication is Confidential, and its unauthorized distribution is prohibited and intended only for the aforementioned parties to this communication. This confidential message is bound by the Non-Disclosure Agreements covenants of Rogue Energy, L.L.C. and Synkro Motive, LLC inclusive and applies to the recipient parties of this electronic communication and/or documentation.*** From: c.bakken [mailto:c.bakken at rogue-energy.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:46 AM To: 'oeva-list at oeva.org' Subject: 24 Thunder Sky 100Ah Cells Available - NEW Were working with these cells and decided to go with the stiffer Headways for our project. The 20 Cells are from EVC and have been subjected to only very light bench testing by Ives Meadors at SynkroMotive. We will let these go if all 20 go at once for $125 each or $2,500 and will deliver them locally (Portland area). We paid $139 each, $120 plus with the associated freight and duties. Call or email. Chris Bakken President, Rogue Energy LLC c.bakken at rogue-energy.com chris at synkromotive.com Cell - (503) 784-2454 image002 ***The material and content contained within this email communication is Confidential, and its unauthorized distribution is prohibited and intended only for the aforementioned parties to this communication. This confidential message is bound by the Non-Disclosure Agreements covenants of Rogue Energy, L.L.C. and Synkro Motive, LLC inclusive and applies to the recipient parties of this electronic communication and/or documentation.*** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jeff Kim The Nissan Leaf is coming to Portland, December 17-23 Thursday, December 17 Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (OMSI) (Nissan Leaf exhibit in the main lobby) 1945 SE Water Ave Portland, OR 97214 (503) 797-4661 Scheduled Events (all Private) 10:00-12:00 a.m. Media Sessions 1:00-1:45 p.m. Greenlight Greater Portland 2:00-2:45 p.m. Oregon Corporate Fleet Managers 3:00-3:45 p.m. Japan-America Society of Oregon/Shokookai of Portland 4:00-4:45 p.m. Oregon Electric Vehicles Association 6:30-8:30 p.m. Private Reception for Prospective Nissan Leaf Buyers Friday, December 18 ? December 20 Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (OMSI) (Nissan Leaf exhibit in the main lobby) 1945 SE Water Ave Portland, OR 97214 (503) 797-4661 Scheduled Events Public display all-day at OMSI, but no formal presentations or private groups Monday, December 21 Multnomah Athletic Club 1849 SW Salmon St. Portland, OR 97205 503-223-6251 Scheduled Events Private luncheon event for the Professional Engineers of Oregon Tuesday, December 22 ? Wednesday, December 23 Washington Square 9585 SW Washington Square Rd (217/Greenburg, Hall and Scholls Ferry Exits) Portland, OR 97223 (503) 639-8860 Scheduled Events Public display all-day at Washington Square, Sears Courtyard, but no formal presentations or private groups -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks to everyone that donated. I sent the donation to his online fund raiser ( http://www.giveforward.org/idiot/) today and our donation pushed the total over the $3000 mark. Thanks again to everyone that helped out. Nathan has some brain injuries and the recovery is going to be expensive. He still has about ~$2000 to raise to meet the $5000 goal, if you want to donate here is the link: http://www.giveforward.org/idiot/ Please Help Spread the Word. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I sent the donation to his online fund raiser ( > http://www.giveforward.org/idiot/) today and our donation pushed the total > over the $3000 mark. > > Thanks again to everyone that helped out. > > Nathan has some brain injuries and the recovery is going to be expensive. > He still has about ~$2000 to raise to meet the $5000 goal, if you want to > donate here is the link: http://www.giveforward.org/idiot/ > > Please Help Spread the Word. > > Regards, > Pat > With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -- Travis Gintz 1986 Honda VFR DC conversion Http://blog.evfr.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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OEVA Hour Leaf Event: When: Thursday, December 17th Time: 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM Where: OMSI, 1945 SE Water Avenue, Portland OR 97214 RSVP: John Christian OEVA Chairman - john.p.christian at gmail.com Other Times: December 17th - 20th at OMSI December 22nd-23rd at Washington Square RSVP: go to http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/tour.jsp and put in any Oregon or SW Washington zip code I hope to see you there. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091211/cde64906/attachment.html From quinn at arcimoto.com Sat Dec 12 04:39:38 2009 From: quinn at arcimoto.com (Quinn Reilly) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:39:38 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Arcimoto at Washington Square - TODAY! Message-ID: <690f16190912120439v478d29d0uae473bfe308e0e80@mail.gmail.com> Attention OEVA Members - Arcimoto will be showing the Arcimoto Pulse at Washington Square this weekend! Come by to meet members of the team and check out the vehicle. Where: Washington Square Mall, Tigard When: Mall open hours See you there! -- Quinn Reilly VP Marketing | Arcimoto, LLC www.arcimoto.com 541-683-6293 (w) 541-337-4106 (c) ****** GO DUCKS!!! ****** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091212/ab1f07ef/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 23:50:07 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:50:07 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Electric Bike Buyers Guide Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912122350y1b49e0d0ja540631f27082364@mail.gmail.com> http://www.ev.com/ev-guides/e-bike-101-your-first-electric-bike-buyers-guide.html Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091212/92c6dc7d/attachment.html From nisaacs at optechsw.com Tue Dec 15 15:50:48 2009 From: nisaacs at optechsw.com (Nathan Isaacs) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:50:48 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] 240v Charging Volunteer Needed Message-ID: <003701ca7de1$6e0a8fe0$4a1fafa0$@com> Good afternoon, We are looking for an EV volunteer(s) who charges their vehicles at 240v. We are conducting further tests of our charging stations at "Level 2" charging and will be testing Friday from 8-2 p.m. We also will be available on Saturday, depending on the availability of volunteers. Send me an e-mail if you can help out. Testing would be done at our offices, 15236 NW Greenbrier Parkway, Beaverton. Sincerely, Nathan Isaacs Manager, Business Development Optimization Technologies www.opconnect.com nisaacs at optechsw.com (503) 690-4475 x 16 (503) 810-7013 mobile P Please consider the environment before printing this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091215/433ef637/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 19:38:25 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:38:25 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Arcimoto Pulse Pictures Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912151938h1ecff3acy21c7d79c44669547@mail.gmail.com> I snapped a few pictures of the Pulse when it was on display at Washington Square. These are on facebook, but you should not need an account to see them. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=129470&id=138510433019 Cheers, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091215/70e45de5/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 20:13:06 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:13:06 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] December Meeting Pictures Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912152013k5ad39015x7ccc81b0f19290cc@mail.gmail.com> We had food, music, a speaker from Arcimoto, and great seasonal lighting in the 'vehicle' courtyard. Thanks to Richard for organizing this and to everyone that helped make it a fun meeting. December 2009 Meeting pictures: http://bit.ly/6xUkIl Again you should not need an account to see them; let me know if you have any trouble. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912161803s153373f4mf57d046ad0046542@mail.gmail.com> OMSI just reported (on their facebook status) that the Leaf has arrived early and is now on display. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091216/fa52fcdd/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 22:50:47 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:50:47 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] All Electric Grand Prix Coming To Paris Next Year Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912162250s592953achec7ad7e0803b4615@mail.gmail.com> http://gas2.org/2009/12/16/all-electric-grand-prix-coming-to-paris-next-year/ This will help boost EV tech significantly. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091216/d5284442/attachment.html From richard at hamje.net Thu Dec 17 07:17:10 2009 From: richard at hamje.net (Richard Hamje) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:17:10 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Electro Automotive Status? Message-ID: <4a65f399$7504e7aa$2cc041aa$@com> Hi all, Does anyone have any recent experience with Electro Automotive? I ordered a kit from them in July and still don't have all the parts. They have never responded to emails, and when I call I get Bill Lentfer's voicemail, but he never returns the call. I fear they are down to just one person and may be folding. I'm out about $3000 for the remaining parts (charger, converter, relays, main switch) if I have to buy them elsewhere. Has anyone in the group had dealings with them lately? Do you know anyone besides Bill at the company who I could call? It's frustrating and a little scary if they're down the tubes... Thanks, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091217/a5fb464f/attachment.html From b2koehn at msn.com Thu Dec 17 14:18:54 2009 From: b2koehn at msn.com (BRUCE KOEHN) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:18:54 +0000 Subject: [Oeva-list] Electro Automotive Status? In-Reply-To: <4a65f399$7504e7aa$2cc041aa$@com> References: <4a65f399$7504e7aa$2cc041aa$@com> Message-ID: I have a DC conversion from an Electro Automotive kit. My last dealings with Electro Automotive was in November. I talked to Bill Lentfer directly and he promptly sent a part I requested. Bruce From: richard at hamje.net To: oeva-list at oeva.org Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:17:10 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Electro Automotive Status? Hi all, Does anyone have any recent experience with Electro Automotive? I ordered a kit from them in July and still don't have all the parts. They have never responded to emails, and when I call I get Bill Lentfer's voicemail, but he never returns the call. I fear they are down to just one person and may be folding. I'm out about $3000 for the remaining parts (charger, converter, relays, main switch) if I have to buy them elsewhere. Has anyone in the group had dealings with them lately? Do you know anyone besides Bill at the company who I could call? It's frustrating and a little scary if they're down the tubes... Thanks, Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091217/57144f13/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 21:58:35 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:58:35 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912172158n4a84758cu9529a907e273afe9@mail.gmail.com> We had many OEVA members at the Nissan Leaf event tonight. It was a good turn out and Nissan even gave out free t-shirts if you signed up for their mailing list. We asked a lot of good questions of Mark Perry, the Leaf program manager. Here are the Q&As that I recall. These are not verbatim: Nissan Leaf Questions To Mark Perry of Nissan Question: Much has been said about leasing the batteries, will buying be an option? Answer: Nissan will encourage customers to lease the vehicle and batteries together. Buying the vehicle and separately leasing the batteries may not be allowed in the US for legal reasons. There is no decision regarding outright buying the vehicle. Lease with an option to buy is a possibility. Q: How is the range impacted by extreme weather? A: The batteries are not impacted unless the temperature get to -20 degrees. However, if you run the AC or heater this can impact the range. When possible you should pre-condition the cab environment while the vehicle is plugged-in. You can do this via a smart phone app. Q: What charging levels are supported? Are there any plans for fast charging in the Portland area? A: Level 1, 2, & 3 are supported. Fast charging stations will be installed along the I-5 from Eugene OR to Vancouver, BC. Also, Oregon will have 2500 charging stations installed. Q: Darryl Siry, of Wired, criticized the method used to compute the range. What method was used, the Japanese 10-15 cycle or another? A: The actual range anyone gets depends on how and where they drive. The method used to compute the range was city mostly city driving, with lower speeds and use of the regenerative brakes. Most people will have a range in the 80 to 120 miles area. Q: Are there any plans for a range-extender trailer? (generator or battery) A: NO. Q: Does Nissan have partnerships with any car rental companies for Leaf owners, if they occationally need a gas car? A: Yes. Zip Car is a partner. The details of the relationship are not yet finalized. Q: When battery improvements are made, will they be available to all year models, or would one need to buy a new Leaf to get the longer range? A: Battery upgrades will be available for the the first year model. This is one of the reasons that Nissan is encouraging leasing rather than buying. This way an customer is not stuck with outdated technology 3-5 years from now. Q: How does the Battery R&D budget compare to the Fuel Cell budget at Nissan? A: Nissan is investing in both technologies. However, fuel cells are a research project with products 10-15 years out. Batteries are ready now, Nissan has been researching lithium batteries for over 15 years and batteries are getting significantly more attention from our development team. I am sure I missed some, feel free to add or correct the above if you were there tonight. I'll post pictures and videos soon. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091217/bc726315/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 22:09:22 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:09:22 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf on Ch2 News @ 11 Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912172209g5c1b073fq7039b2a31192ec17@mail.gmail.com> Channel 2 was at OSMI and will have a story about the Leaf coming to Portland on the 11 news tonight! Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This shorepower newsletter is a good example of both issues: 1. It's relatively commercial. Do people want that here? 2. Actually, it's not bad size wise, so it's not really a good example there, but how big is too big for people? I'll make a plug for wuala.com as a really easy to use app for sharing large items with web links... These questions seem to pop up here more often than other lists I manage, so I thought I'd revisit it... http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/443717/2c074e0677/1740501003/c02bd726ef/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5249 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : /pipermail/attachments/20091218/d09ca7b8/attachment.bin From matwete at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 13:51:31 2009 From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:51:31 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf In-Reply-To: <8c28d7b50912172158n4a84758cu9529a907e273afe9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c28d7b50912172158n4a84758cu9529a907e273afe9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003a01ca802c$43249df0$c96dd9d0$@net> Sure, here's one: Q: Can you open the hood so we can see what's underneath? A: "No." Then something like "there's really nothing interesting under there anyway, just compressor, controller box, etc." My opinion: It was a great sales pitch and the LEAF looked like a modern car. And the pitch made it sound like it's real. Beyond that, it was sad that it didn't compare to the splash that Toyota made at OMSI several years ago where they brought 4 cars, various detached parts, knowledgeable engineers and allowed us to look all through the car and at the parts before we actually got to take each Prius out for lengthy spins around town. Most disappointing: While we got to see 2 power plugs, we didn't get to see its 10kw charge rate demonstrated----I, for one, am curious how 10kw recharge rate is deemed safe for battery boxes mounted under each seat and with no cooling. Seeing it plugged in and seeing a gauge indicate its sucking 10kw from OMSI's grid would have been interesting. As it was, there was little to interest the engineer in me---and I'm not a technogeek. -Myles Twete 1911 Hupp-Yeats Electric www.evalbum.com/1018 From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of patrick0101 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:59 PM To: OEVA Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf We had many OEVA members at the Nissan Leaf event tonight. It was a good turn out and Nissan even gave out free t-shirts if you signed up for their mailing list. We asked a lot of good questions of Mark Perry, the Leaf program manager. Here are the Q&As that I recall. These are not verbatim: Nissan Leaf Questions To Mark Perry of Nissan Question: Much has been said about leasing the batteries, will buying be an option? Answer: Nissan will encourage customers to lease the vehicle and batteries together. Buying the vehicle and separately leasing the batteries may not be allowed in the US for legal reasons. There is no decision regarding outright buying the vehicle. Lease with an option to buy is a possibility. Q: How is the range impacted by extreme weather? A: The batteries are not impacted unless the temperature get to -20 degrees. However, if you run the AC or heater this can impact the range. When possible you should pre-condition the cab environment while the vehicle is plugged-in. You can do this via a smart phone app. Q: What charging levels are supported? Are there any plans for fast charging in the Portland area? A: Level 1, 2, & 3 are supported. Fast charging stations will be installed along the I-5 from Eugene OR to Vancouver, BC. Also, Oregon will have 2500 charging stations installed. Q: Darryl Siry, of Wired, criticized the method used to compute the range. What method was used, the Japanese 10-15 cycle or another? A: The actual range anyone gets depends on how and where they drive. The method used to compute the range was city mostly city driving, with lower speeds and use of the regenerative brakes. Most people will have a range in the 80 to 120 miles area. Q: Are there any plans for a range-extender trailer? (generator or battery) A: NO. Q: Does Nissan have partnerships with any car rental companies for Leaf owners, if they occationally need a gas car? A: Yes. Zip Car is a partner. The details of the relationship are not yet finalized. Q: When battery improvements are made, will they be available to all year models, or would one need to buy a new Leaf to get the longer range? A: Battery upgrades will be available for the the first year model. This is one of the reasons that Nissan is encouraging leasing rather than buying. This way an customer is not stuck with outdated technology 3-5 years from now. Q: How does the Battery R&D budget compare to the Fuel Cell budget at Nissan? A: Nissan is investing in both technologies. However, fuel cells are a research project with products 10-15 years out. Batteries are ready now, Nissan has been researching lithium batteries for over 15 years and batteries are getting significantly more attention from our development team. I am sure I missed some, feel free to add or correct the above if you were there tonight. I'll post pictures and videos soon. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091218/ffb8eea4/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 14:42:21 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:42:21 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf in Oregonian Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912181442s1b6b542emf74d66ecba308583@mail.gmail.com> Video & article: http://blog.oregonlive.com/commuting/2009/12/video_up_close_and_electrical.html Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091218/54c3b75d/attachment-0001.html From blaze at chargenw.com Fri Dec 18 14:56:06 2009 From: blaze at chargenw.com (Jim Blaisdell) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:56:06 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Lincoln City Oregon now EV Friendly Message-ID: Hi Folks, I just wanted to let you know that Lincoln City, Oregon is making the Oregon coast more EV friendly by installing 6 Coulomb ChargePoint EV Charging Stations. The new stations should be installed by January 11th. The Stations are currently free of Charge. Is there anybody interested in attending with your EV? The grand opening on the 11th of January? If so, you are likely to get your picture in the paper and I will even throw in a free RFID access card. Give me a shout! Jim Blaisdell Charge Northwest Coulomb, Chargepoint Distributors 22322 NE 157th St Woodinville, WA 98077 253-304-5625 cell 253-265-0919 office http://www.chargenw.com/ > P Please consider the environment before printing this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091218/557f5d83/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 21:21:11 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:21:11 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] list management question In-Reply-To: <4B2BE787.4010506@batie.org> References: <4B2BE787.4010506@batie.org> Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912182121s5ad2fcc7mffc3171c75c9b878@mail.gmail.com> tweetyourmail.com is one simple way to share a large email. You it to them, they make into a webpage and give you a link that you can share. Readers do not need to join. I had looked in to wuala a long time ago, it was not as simple, but maybe it is better now. Here are a couple tweetyourmail examples: http://www.tweetyourmail.com/mails/18861/SmartGridSeminar2010.aspx http://www.tweetyourmail.com/mails/18860/NevertakeGRANDMAtoCOURTSundaysnicker.aspx However, I am OK with any email less than 1GB :) Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Alan Batie wrote: > With modern mail being what it is, I'm considering substantially > relaxing content limits on the list, and wanted to find out what the > group thought was appropriate. This shorepower newsletter is a good > example of both issues: > > 1. It's relatively commercial. Do people want that here? > 2. Actually, it's not bad size wise, so it's not really a good example > there, but how big is too big for people? I'll make a plug for > wuala.com as a really easy to use app for sharing large items with web > links... > > These questions seem to pop up here more often than other lists I > manage, so I thought I'd revisit it... > > > http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/443717/2c074e0677/1740501003/c02bd726ef/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091218/45be9dd4/attachment.html From ether_scape at yahoo.com Fri Dec 18 21:59:06 2009 From: ether_scape at yahoo.com (S. Jain) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:59:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oeva-list] list management question In-Reply-To: <8c28d7b50912182121s5ad2fcc7mffc3171c75c9b878@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B2BE787.4010506@batie.org> <8c28d7b50912182121s5ad2fcc7mffc3171c75c9b878@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <738566.84854.qm@web43140.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Tweetyourmail.com is owned by a friend of mine. If you have any feature requests, send them to me and i'll forward them on! My first test post were the Nissan LEAF vids Patrick posted. thx, Shashi ________________________________ From: "patrick0101 at gmail.com" To: OEVA Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 9:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] list management question tweetyourmail.com is one simple way to share a large email. You it to them, they make into a webpage and give you a link that you can share. Readers do not need to join. I had looked in to wuala a long time ago, it was not as simple, but maybe it is better now. Here are a couple tweetyourmail examples: http://www.tweetyourmail.com/mails/18861/SmartGridSeminar2010.aspx http://www.tweetyourmail.com/mails/18860/NevertakeGRANDMAtoCOURTSundaysnicker.aspx However, I am OK with any email less than 1GB :) Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Alan Batie wrote: > >With modern mail being what it is, I'm considering substantially >>relaxing content limits on the list, and wanted to find out what the >>group thought was appropriate. This shorepower newsletter is a good >>example of both issues: > >>1. It's relatively commercial. Do people want that here? >>2. Actually, it's not bad size wise, so it's not really a good example >>there, but how big is too big for people? I'll make a plug for >wuala.com as a really easy to use app for sharing large items with web >>links... > >>These questions seem to pop up here more often than other lists I >>manage, so I thought I'd revisit it... > > >http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/443717/2c074e0677/1740501003/c02bd726ef/ > > >_______________________________________________ >>Oeva-list mailing list >Oeva-list at oeva.org >http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091218/3931a0ec/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 23:17:13 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:17:13 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] list management question In-Reply-To: <8c28d7b50912182121s5ad2fcc7mffc3171c75c9b878@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B2BE787.4010506@batie.org> <8c28d7b50912182121s5ad2fcc7mffc3171c75c9b878@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912182317q7e49d572l76d83ab9c40f9eed@mail.gmail.com> Here is the Shorepower newsletter on tweetyoumail. It seems to have worked very well. The format looks right and the links all still work. http://bit.ly/53atq1 Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:21 PM, wrote: > tweetyourmail.com is one simple way to share a large email. You it to > them, they make into a webpage and give you a link that you can share. > Readers do not need to join. I had looked in to wuala a long time ago, it > was not as simple, but maybe it is better now. > Here are a couple tweetyourmail examples: > http://www.tweetyourmail.com/mails/18861/SmartGridSeminar2010.aspx > > http://www.tweetyourmail.com/mails/18860/NevertakeGRANDMAtoCOURTSundaysnicker.aspx > > However, I am OK with any email less than 1GB :) > > Regards, > Pat > With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Alan Batie wrote: > >> With modern mail being what it is, I'm considering substantially >> relaxing content limits on the list, and wanted to find out what the >> group thought was appropriate. This shorepower newsletter is a good >> example of both issues: >> >> 1. It's relatively commercial. Do people want that here? >> 2. Actually, it's not bad size wise, so it's not really a good example >> there, but how big is too big for people? I'll make a plug for >> wuala.com as a really easy to use app for sharing large items with web >> links... >> >> These questions seem to pop up here more often than other lists I >> manage, so I thought I'd revisit it... >> >> >> >> http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/443717/2c074e0677/1740501003/c02bd726ef/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Oeva-list mailing list >> Oeva-list at oeva.org >> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091218/4c30f6f2/attachment-0001.html From pusa411 at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 14:46:34 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:46:34 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Message-ID: <793086120912191446l7eb36f0cw5a45d89ff84748aa@mail.gmail.com> I'm in the same camp as most of you. It looked good but, details, Not so much. Obviously they are still working on the secret sauce.. and have enough space in the Leaf to greatly vary the Battery and drive technologiey details. Nissan has always been much looser until release of a vehicle than Toyota.. These are the ruminations of a Litium guy... The battery cut-away they showed off, was a four pack of large Li-Po, Lithium Polymer, cellular phone style batteries, 150Ah sized plates, end view of a Prismatic, sealed in a stackable can. These are the largest Lipo's I've seen, 10 Ah are considered hugh and require a 10 ton machine. These looked to be stamped, actually vacuum packed, with a 30 - 40 ton press. Depending on how they are "juicing" them, truely the special sauce of a lithium. Each manufacturer has a propriety mix of the electrolite ratio and the minerals in suspension. They can build a Li-Po cel to operate from 1C to 40C easily, and have a nominal Voltage from 3 to 3.7 volts. However anything over 6C discharge / 2.4C charge, and a 3.3v nominal goes up in price. So to go from 6C to 10C costs about 40% more, 20C is 90% more, These numbers are the admitted cost from two of my friends that own production facilities in Shenzhen China. These numbers should get cheaper as the volumes go up and competition drives down the sell price. The Nissan/NEC Pack should be a minimum of 40 Ah to 60Ah a "bag". I'm assuming 50Ah, due to the phisical size and norm "Sauce" in a Li-Po cell. So could be a 3.4v 200Ah cell, 4x 50Ah, or a 13.6v 50Ah, 4x 3.4v, cell per battery pack in a "can". They could fill the cans with coolant or jel too if they want to stablize thier temperatures in each can. It would be nice if someone has pics, hint hint... to figure out the number of "cans" in the area under the front and back seats.. I'm thinking 3 of 4 in the front, and Brian made it sound as if there are 2x the battery under the back seat as the front. I'm wonderring if 4 cans are a Battery , ie. 12volt units, or if a can is a 12v unit? What is the thaught guys? 3 or 4 cans per battery stack under the front seat? did any one look at the floor pan from under the car..? Does it drop, raise or is it flat? Polmers will easialy live @ 3C discharge for a min. of 1500 cycles, and if juiced can go to 40C albeit maybe 120 cycles, assuming 20% DoD.. and staying above 80% capacity.. So many variables.. so little details... :')~ Oh, as for Commercial contributors, I'm ok with it, as long as blatant Advertizing is not included.. Mr Kim's info has good links and info on the Electrification of America.. ... THX.. Daniel T "Bubba" Conway Premium-EV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091219/379af8f5/attachment.html From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 23:03:31 2009 From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:03:31 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. In-Reply-To: <793086120912191446l7eb36f0cw5a45d89ff84748aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <793086120912191446l7eb36f0cw5a45d89ff84748aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <83b7b17c0912192303t2685e28ble8c1907d68e0f575@mail.gmail.com> I didn't get any pictures, but the floor of the vehicle was flat and appeard lower than a typical vehicle. Jeff Kim On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, PREMIUM-USA wrote: > I'm in the same camp as most of you. It looked good but, details, Not so > much. > Obviously they are still working on the secret sauce.. and have enough > space in the Leaf to greatly vary > the Battery and drive technologiey details. Nissan has always been much > looser until release of a vehicle than Toyota.. > > These are the ruminations of a Litium guy... > The battery cut-away they showed off, was a four pack of large Li-Po, > Lithium Polymer, cellular phone style > batteries, 150Ah sized plates, end view of a Prismatic, sealed in a > stackable can. > These are the largest Lipo's I've seen, 10 Ah are considered hugh and > require a 10 ton machine. > These looked to be stamped, actually vacuum packed, with a 30 - 40 ton > press. > > Depending on how they are "juicing" them, truely the special sauce of a > lithium. > Each manufacturer has a propriety mix of the electrolite ratio and the > minerals in suspension. > They can build a Li-Po cel to operate from 1C to 40C easily, and have a > nominal Voltage from 3 to 3.7 volts. > However anything over 6C discharge / 2.4C charge, and a 3.3v nominal goes > up in price. So to go from 6C to 10C > costs about 40% more, 20C is 90% more, These numbers are the admitted cost > from two of my friends that own > production facilities in Shenzhen China. These numbers should get cheaper > as the volumes go up and competition > drives down the sell price. > The Nissan/NEC Pack should be a minimum of 40 Ah to 60Ah a "bag". I'm > assuming 50Ah, due to the phisical size > and norm "Sauce" in a Li-Po cell. So could be a 3.4v 200Ah cell, 4x 50Ah, > or a 13.6v 50Ah, 4x 3.4v, cell per > battery pack in a "can". They could fill the cans with coolant or jel too > if they want to stablize thier temperatures in each can. > It would be nice if someone has pics, hint hint... to figure out the > number of "cans" in the area under the front and back seats.. I'm thinking > 3 of 4 in the front, and Brian made it sound as if there are 2x the battery > under the back seat as the front. > I'm wonderring if 4 cans are a Battery , ie. 12volt units, or if a can is a > 12v unit? What is the thaught guys? 3 or 4 cans per battery stack under the > front seat? did any one look at the floor pan from under the car..? Does it > drop, raise or is it flat? > Polmers will easialy live @ 3C discharge for a min. of 1500 cycles, and if > juiced can go to 40C albeit maybe 120 cycles, assuming 20% DoD.. and staying > above 80% capacity.. > > So many variables.. so little details... :')~ > > Oh, as for Commercial contributors, I'm ok with it, as long as blatant > Advertizing is not included.. Mr Kim's info has good links and info on the > Electrification of America.. > ... > > THX.. > Daniel T "Bubba" Conway > > Premium-EV > > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091219/05c451ff/attachment.html From Theoldcars at aol.com Sat Dec 19 23:45:41 2009 From: Theoldcars at aol.com (Theoldcars at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:45:41 EST Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf at OMSI Message-ID: Overall I really liked the Leaf. A little disappointed no under the hood views were allowed. Concerning this information provided at the show. The range in town is better then on the freeway was because of regen. The reason for better mileage in town is because of stop and go driving with regen. This is incorrect. Your very best range will be on 35 MPH roads that you do not have to stop on. If you are in very heavy stop and go traffic that might be enough energy lost that you could travel at 40 or 45 MPH still get even greater range. Here are some facts You never get the best range using regen and driving like an ICE EVs get their best range at around 30 to 35 miles per hour without stopping. If you must use regen you will recover energy but you would gain more range if you could coast. It is always better to coast then it is to regen. Stopping will never give you more range. Every time you have to stop you lose range not gain. Regen will recover some of the loss of having to stop but not all of it. The recovered energy using regen does not make up for the loss of energy needed to bring the vehicle back up to speed. It takes far more energy to start a vehicle from a stop then you ever recover from regen braking. The only exception to this would be going down a hill to a stop. Any time you convert energy there is always a loss. Of course if you must slow down or come to a stop then it is better to put the energy back into the pack. If you do get better range in town then on the freeway it is only because of aerodynamic losses at freeway speeds. It has nothing to do with regen making your EV range increase with regen stopping. If you tell this information to non EV drivers. They will wrongly believe it is best to use the regen braking. That doing so will recharge the car and increase the range. Don Blazer In a message dated 12/18/2009 2:42:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, oeva-list-request at oeva.org writes: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:51:31 -0800 From: "Myles Twete" Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf To: "'OEVA'" Message-ID: <003a01ca802c$43249df0$c96dd9d0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sure, here's one: Q: Can you open the hood so we can see what's underneath? A: "No." Then something like "there's really nothing interesting under there anyway, just compressor, controller box, etc." My opinion: It was a great sales pitch and the LEAF looked like a modern car. And the pitch made it sound like it's real. Beyond that, it was sad that it didn't compare to the splash that Toyota made at OMSI several years ago where they brought 4 cars, various detached parts, knowledgeable engineers and allowed us to look all through the car and at the parts before we actually got to take each Prius out for lengthy spins around town. Most disappointing: While we got to see 2 power plugs, we didn't get to see its 10kw charge rate demonstrated----I, for one, am curious how 10kw recharge rate is deemed safe for battery boxes mounted under each seat and with no cooling. Seeing it plugged in and seeing a gauge indicate its sucking 10kw from OMSI's grid would have been interesting. As it was, there was little to interest the engineer in me---and I'm not a technogeek. -Myles Twete 1911 Hupp-Yeats Electric www.evalbum.com/1018 From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of patrick0101 at gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:59 PM To: OEVA Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf We had many OEVA members at the Nissan Leaf event tonight. It was a good turn out and Nissan even gave out free t-shirts if you signed up for their mailing list. We asked a lot of good questions of Mark Perry, the Leaf program manager. Here are the Q&As that I recall. These are not verbatim: Nissan Leaf Questions To Mark Perry of Nissan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091220/cda77cd6/attachment.html From pusa411 at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 00:26:33 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:26:33 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. 7.4v 100Ah cells Message-ID: <793086120912200026m39b39a77mf60860a602b38293@mail.gmail.com> Don T. got this: I was trying to justify the numbers. I was told it has a 350V pack. Also I was told 48 of those battery modules under the seats and floor. At 3.7 V / cell that would be 355V, at 50ah / cell it is 35.5 KWh for the pack. At 80% DOD = 28.4 KWh of driving power. As I recall he said 4.1 miles per KWh, in answer to my question, which nets 116 miles. At 70% DOD it?s 100 miles + regenerative braking. ..Definitely Li-Po, is a very easy , sweet spot, mean voltage for polymer.. but with 48 "cans" they would have to be a 2p2s Li-Po battery, a very common battery in the RC flight industry. 7.4v 100Ah is therefore likely , 48 x 7.4v... A very possible 355.2V DC x 100Ah, 35.5KwH pack, very nice indeed.. they could be de-rating the pack as Chevy is with the Volt.. THX.. Daniel T "Bubba" Conway Premium-EV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091220/99a8c193/attachment-0001.html From pusa411 at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 02:31:06 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:31:06 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge Message-ID: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> Myles Tweet wrote: Most disappointing: While we got to see 2 power plugs, we didn't get to see its 10kw charge rate demonstrated----I, for one, am curious how 10kw recharge rate is deemed safe for battery boxes mounted under each seat and with no cooling. Seeing it plugged in and seeing a gauge indicate its sucking 10kw from OMSI's grid would have been interesting. As it was, there was little to interest the engineer in me---and I'm not a technogeek. Brian from Nissan mentioned that the huge socket on the right is the Japan Electric 440 volt std. and the ~30mm socket 2 power, large, +3 data. We in China refer to these plugs by power +data, so this is a 2+3.. I'm a bit confused, because all the J1772 I have seen are ~50mm sockets with a 3+2 config. On the 10Kw charging, is very easy on a 35.5 Kw pack.. exactly perfect, given most charger are about 87% net efficient, so 87% x 10Kw = 8.7Kw net, exactly 25% of 35.5Kw. One can easily charge Li-Po at .5C, and they would push at only 0.25C... Here on PUD power I have 240 vac, so 10Kw is ~42 amps, on a 50A breaker, less than my flash hot water heaters pull.. I'd like to charge them at 24Kw.. :')~ The Japan Electric socket should carry 100amps @ 440vac, 44Kw x 87% eff. charger is 38.3Kw net, and if the pack bottom is 70% DoD with a top of 90% full, for a flash charge. It is easy to push Lithium to 90% quickly, or about 22Kw pack that would take 35 min. @ 1.08C... sweet... And very possible even if the Li-Po cells are not encased, in a coolant. They should not incur detrimental "puffing" of the vacuum bagged envalopes. Myself, I would use a coolant. If the air volume in each "can" is say 1.5 Qts, that would add about 3 lbs each of glycol/ water, or ~145 Lbs for coolant, a good trade off for battery life.. And the right goodie mix could also nuetralize the potential of a "run-away".. Hmmm. ...Just some guesses, but looks in the ball park .. Oh, did someone get some pics of that battery "can"..??? I'd love to study it more... :')~~~ THX.. Daniel T "Bubba" Conway Premium-EV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yet, whenever I go to the forum, it says it is a read only list. Seems like a contradiction. Posts are obviously being replied to, but how? It does not appear to be a very obvious process. Thanks, Gene Climer, OEVA Member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091220/ccdf817c/attachment.html From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Mon Dec 21 07:59:36 2009 From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:59:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oeva-list] Not a Post, Just a Question In-Reply-To: <484894.4684.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <484894.4684.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <751773.93877.qm@web110512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Gene, I set up the Nabble archival forum to capture all the e-mails that were sent to the OEVA "mailman" listserv so we could have a searchable database. Since it only captures what has been sent out, it's a "read-only" forum without discussions. When people reply to the list, it really goes through the original "mailman" listserv and the Nabble forum captures those replies as well. Clear as mud? :) Cheers, Tim ________________________________ From: Gene Climer To: oeva-list at oeva.org Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 10:52:07 PM Subject: [Oeva-list] Not a Post, Just a Question I keep getting emails from the OEVA List which have been replied to. Yet, whenever I go to the forum, it says it is a read only list. Seems like a contradiction. Posts are obviously being replied to, but how? It does not appear to be a very obvious process. Thanks, Gene Climer, OEVA Member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091221/20a81603/attachment.html From alan at batie.org Mon Dec 21 12:53:43 2009 From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:53:43 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge In-Reply-To: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> References: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> On 12/20/09 2:31 AM, PREMIUM-USA wrote: > Oh, did someone get some pics of that battery "can"..??? I'd love to > study it more... :')~~~ I was there yesterday and got some pix, though not sure you can see much... http://alan.batie.org/photos/canon-a1000/2009/1220-leaf-trex/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5249 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : /pipermail/attachments/20091221/15fabb4d/attachment.bin From alan at batie.org Mon Dec 21 12:53:43 2009 From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:53:43 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge In-Reply-To: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> References: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> On 12/20/09 2:31 AM, PREMIUM-USA wrote: > Oh, did someone get some pics of that battery "can"..??? I'd love to > study it more... :')~~~ I was there yesterday and got some pix, though not sure you can see much... http://alan.batie.org/photos/canon-a1000/2009/1220-leaf-trex/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5249 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : /pipermail/attachments/20091221/15fabb4d/attachment-0001.bin From climer97007 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 21 19:12:05 2009 From: climer97007 at yahoo.com (Gene Climer) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:12:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge In-Reply-To: <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> References: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> Message-ID: <476615.36842.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> At OMSI, I talked to the tall guy with the ski cap. He said the battery pack has 4 cells per module, and 48 modules. The 48 modules are divided in half into the two packs under the front seats. There are still quite a few?series/parallel combinations. Just depends upon your assumptions at that point. Let's assume?about 4V per cell for a round number. On the low side, for 4 cells in each moldule would be in parallel. That gives?4V per module, and 96V per 24 modules. If the two 24 Module halves are in parallel, it is?a 96V pack. If the two halves are in series, it is?a 192V pack. Now, at the other end, let's assume each module has 4 cells in?series. That gives 16V per module, and 384V per 24 modules. The two 384V halves can be either parallel or series. Highest case, the 384V halves are put in series and we have a 768V pack. So, the pack has to be either 96V, 192V, 384V or 768V. Did anyone get them to spill the beans in more detail? Thanks, Gene Climer ? ________________________________ From: Alan Batie To: oeva-list at oeva.org Sent: Mon, December 21, 2009 12:53:43 PM Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge On 12/20/09 2:31 AM, PREMIUM-USA wrote: > Oh, did someone get some pics of that battery "can"..???? I'd love to > study it more...? :')~~~ I was there yesterday and got some pix, though not sure you can see much... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091221/a2f26b1d/attachment.html From phil at hochstetler.com Mon Dec 21 21:00:25 2009 From: phil at hochstetler.com (phil hochstetler) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:00:25 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge In-Reply-To: <476615.36842.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> <476615.36842.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37a5993b0912212100v449c7395x6babb83933e605cb@mail.gmail.com> I did some digging with Google and found a picture of the battery pack: http://www.gearlive.com/gallery/image/2083/ --phil On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Gene Climer wrote: > At OMSI, I talked to the tall guy with the ski cap. > He said the battery pack has 4 cells per module, and 48 modules. > The 48 modules are divided in half into the two packs under the front seats. > There are still quite a few?series/parallel combinations. > Just depends upon your assumptions at that point. > Let's assume?about 4V per cell for a round number. > On the low side, for 4 cells in each moldule would be in parallel. > That gives?4V per module, and 96V per 24 modules. > If the two 24 Module halves are in parallel, it is?a 96V pack. > If the two halves are in series, it is?a 192V pack. > Now, at the other end, let's assume each module has 4 cells in?series. > That gives 16V per module, and 384V per 24 modules. > The two 384V halves can be either parallel or series. > Highest case, the 384V halves are put in series and we have a 768V pack. > So, the pack has to be either 96V, 192V, 384V or 768V. > Did anyone get them to spill the beans in more detail? > Thanks, > Gene Climer From patrick0101 at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 23:24:31 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:24:31 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan LEAF Zero Emission Tour at Washington Square Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912212324x58746714y60e3b59fb7e1faf3@mail.gmail.com> Nissan LEAF Zero Emission Tour at Washington Square, Tigard Oregon Dec 22-23 http://bit.ly/8JH55j Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091221/8946bfd4/attachment.html From bilquistmrsj at yahoo.com Tue Dec 22 00:56:16 2009 From: bilquistmrsj at yahoo.com (Christine Jeibmann) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:56:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oeva-list] 2008 ZAP Xebra PK -- $8950 OBO Message-ID: <496749.53542.qm@web52502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> What can I say -- economic times have my finances a little tight..... I don't want to really sell Big Red but I think it is the best move for me right now..... Purchased June 2008 for $13,000 from Eco-Motion Less then 4000 ZAP miles Fire Engine Red AM/FM/CD/Ipod Spray-on Bedliner On Board Charger Heater Paktracker installed July 2008 ($200) upgraded to 84 volts (7 batteries) in July 2008 ($900) -- Thank you Shorepower!! Gently used. Have not let battery pack go below 50% more then a handful of times. I can travel from Milwaukie to Downtown Portland comfortably on a charge. Maximum speed 42 mph. Pros/Con combined: 3 wheeled vehicle so only requires motorcycle tags which are inexpensive. Motorcycle insurance -- full coverage only costs me $230 A YEAR through Progressive!! No airbags / crumple zones. Made in China -- expect not the best quality but it is decent enough!! Seriously only costs about .02 cents per mile to operate!! LOW MAINTENANCE!! NOT freeway legal but is expressway legal and I can keep up with traffic on McLoughlin Blvd / Grand Ave. Feel free to e-mail me off list if you would like additional information and/or pictures!! From matwete at comcast.net Tue Dec 22 08:51:10 2009 From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:51:10 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge In-Reply-To: <37a5993b0912212100v449c7395x6babb83933e605cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> <476615.36842.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37a5993b0912212100v449c7395x6babb83933e605cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004c01ca8326$f8941290$e9bc37b0$@net> So the batteries and control are under the body pan...hmm. -----Original Message----- From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of phil hochstetler Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:00 PM To: Gene Climer Cc: OEVA Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] The Leaf in Special Sauce.. Charge I did some digging with Google and found a picture of the battery pack: http://www.gearlive.com/gallery/image/2083/ --phil On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Gene Climer wrote: > At OMSI, I talked to the tall guy with the ski cap. > He said the battery pack has 4 cells per module, and 48 modules. > The 48 modules are divided in half into the two packs under the front seats. > There are still quite a few series/parallel combinations. > Just depends upon your assumptions at that point. > Let's assume about 4V per cell for a round number. > On the low side, for 4 cells in each moldule would be in parallel. > That gives 4V per module, and 96V per 24 modules. > If the two 24 Module halves are in parallel, it is a 96V pack. > If the two halves are in series, it is a 192V pack. > Now, at the other end, let's assume each module has 4 cells in series. > That gives 16V per module, and 384V per 24 modules. > The two 384V halves can be either parallel or series. > Highest case, the 384V halves are put in series and we have a 768V pack. > So, the pack has to be either 96V, 192V, 384V or 768V. > Did anyone get them to spill the beans in more detail? > Thanks, > Gene Climer _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list From Rick.Durst at pgn.com Wed Dec 23 13:34:22 2009 From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:34:22 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Ford Think at OMSI In-Reply-To: <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> References: <793086120912200231h47194c9s30564196c8519811@mail.gmail.com> <4B2FE057.3030500@batie.org> Message-ID: OMSI called me regarding a Ford Think that has been parked at the OMSI charging station for a week. Anyone know who it belongs to? If you do, please let me know. Thanks, Rick Durst 503-464-7631 From oeva_treas at yahoo.com Wed Dec 23 16:23:03 2009 From: oeva_treas at yahoo.com (Ray Blackburn) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:23:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oeva-list] Prius conversion Message-ID: <47308.2648.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi all, Can anyone tell me who does the Prius conversions locally?? (Additional batteries for EV driving.) Thank you, Ray Blackburn? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091223/fd1b3582/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 09:38:11 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:38:11 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] 12 EV Myths Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912240938v256c46e9md91f2e60a99be76b@mail.gmail.com> http://bit.ly/4KZTz6 *1. EVs don?t have enough range. You'll be stranded when you run out of electricity. *FACT: Americans drive an average of 40 miles per day, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation. Most new battery electrics have a range of at least double that and can be charged at any ordinary electrical outlet (120V) or publicly accessible station with a faster charger. At present, all it takes is planning for EV owners, who can travel up to 120 miles on a single charge, to use their cars on heavy travel days. *2. EVs are good for short city trips only. *FACT: Consumers have owned and driven EVs for seven years or more and regularly use them for trips of up to 120 miles. *3. EVs just replace the tailpipe with a smokestack. *FACT: Even today, with 52 percent of U.S. electricity generated by coal-fired power plants, plug-in cars reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and most other pollutants compared with conventional gas or hybrid vehicles. Plug-ins can run on renewable electricity from sources such as the sun or wind. Plug-in hybrids will reduce greenhouse gases and other emissions, even if the source of electricity is mostly coal, a 2007 study by the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) and NRDC showed. *4. The charging stations must be built before people will adopt EVs. *FACT: Most charging will be done at home, so public charging isn?t a necessity. And at least seven companies are competing to dominate the public-charging-station market and a trade group representing the nation?s electric utilities has pledged to ?aggressively? create the infrastructure to support ?full-scale commercialization and deployment? of plug-ins. *5. The grid will crash if millions of plug-ins charge at once. *FACT: Off-peak electricity production and transmission capacity could fuel the daily commutes of 73 percent of all cars, light trucks, SUVs and vans on the road today if they were plug-in hybrids, a 2007 study by Pacific Northwest National Laboratory found. Plug-ins, which can be seen as energy storage devices on wheels, can actually benefit the grid, making green energies like solar and wind power even more viable. *6. Battery chemicals are bad for the environment and can't be recycled. *FACT: Ninety-nine percent of batteries in conventional cars are recycled, according to the EPA. The metals in newer batteries are more valuable and recycling programs are already being developed for them. Utilities plan to use batteries for energy storage once they are no longer viable in a vehicle. *7. EVs take too long to charge. *FACT: The most convenient place and time to charge is at home while you sleep. Even using the slowest 120-volt outlet, the car can be left to charge overnight, producing about 40 miles of range. Most new battery cars and plug-in hybrids will charge from 240-volt outlets providing double or triple the charge in the same amount of time. Charging stations that reduce charging time even more are beginning to appear. *8. Plug-ins are too expensive for market penetration. *FACT: New technologies are typically costly. Remember when cell phones and DVDs were introduced? Also, the government stimulus package includes a $2,500 to $7,500 tax credit for EVs and PHEVs. Some states are considering additional incentives ($5,000 in California and Texas). And EVs require almost no maintenance or repair: no oil or filter changes, no tune ups, no smog checks. *9. Batteries will cost $15,000 to replace after only a few years. *FACT: The battery is the priciest part of a plug-in, but costs will drop as production increases and the auto industry is expected to be purchasing up to $25 billion in advanced batteries annually by 2015. Some car makers plan to lease their batteries, so replacement won?t be an issue. *10. There isn't enough lithium in the world to make all the new batteries. *FACT: Even in a worst-case scenario of zero battery recycling, aggressive EV sales, no new mining methods or sites, existing lithium stores will be sufficient for projected EV production for the next 75 years. See an analysis at PlugInAmerica.org. *11. Lithium batteries are dangerous and can explode. *FACT: Among the many kinds of lithium-ion batteries, lithium-cobalt batteries found in consumer electronics can pose a fire risk in certain circumstances. These risks can be mitigated by the use of advanced-battery management systems and careful design that prevents ?thermal runaway.? *12. Most of us will still be driving gas cars through 2050. *FACT: Driving us toward EVs are ever-toughening federal fuel economy standards and state caps on greenhouse gas emissions; projected price hikes for petroleum products as demand increases and supply flattens or drops; broad agreement over the need for America to reduce its reliance on petroleum; and climate change, which is occurring faster than previously thought, according to the journal Science and many other sources. Those myths are pernicious. Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091224/dcf9df48/attachment.html From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 11:52:58 2009 From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:52:58 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Prius conversion In-Reply-To: <47308.2648.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <47308.2648.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <83b7b17c0912241152h572799cbrdc8c41c046adfab5@mail.gmail.com> Ray, Although it's not our focus, we do plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV) conversions, to ensure people have access to plug-in vehicles. Jeff Kim President Shorepower Technologies 2351 NW York Street Portland, OR 97210 Office (503) 892-7345 Mobile (503) 686-8844 Fax (503) 802-7347 jkim at shorepower.com www.shorepower.com On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Ray Blackburn wrote: > Hi all, > > Can anyone tell me who does the Prius conversions locally? (Additional > batteries for EV driving.) > > Thank you, Ray Blackburn > > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091224/03ec1fed/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Sat Dec 26 13:38:03 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:38:03 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Yuletide fun with an EV Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912261338x26ab4411r506e75076d9963b2@mail.gmail.com> http://bit.ly/6UTaG2 Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091226/f7e07032/attachment.html From blaze at chargenw.com Mon Dec 28 17:59:00 2009 From: blaze at chargenw.com (Jim Blaisdell) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:59:00 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Linn-Benton Community College installs ChargePoint EV Charging Stations Message-ID: <9B1F1DD4-54B5-4F60-A00A-48BD80602E3A@chargenw.com> Linn-Benton Community College just made life easier for Electric Vehicle Drivers by installing 3, ChargePoint EV Charging Stations. The networked stations will have both Level 1 and Level 2, J1772 Charging capability and each station is capable of charging 2 vehicles at the same. The exact location of the stations can be viewed on the map at: http://www.chargepointportal.net/index.php/device/devicelocation.html Jim Blaisdell Charge Northwest Coulomb, Chargepoint Distributors 22322 NE 157th St Woodinville, WA 98077 253-304-5625 cell 253-265-0919 office http://www.chargenw.com/ > P Please consider the environment before printing this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091228/147cce6f/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 21:04:22 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:04:22 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Linn-Benton Community College installs ChargePoint EV Charging Stations In-Reply-To: <9B1F1DD4-54B5-4F60-A00A-48BD80602E3A@chargenw.com> References: <9B1F1DD4-54B5-4F60-A00A-48BD80602E3A@chargenw.com> Message-ID: <8c28d7b50912282104h56c28161gd347c7a306b8d840@mail.gmail.com> Can you elaborate on "J1772 capability". Do these 3 stations have J1772 connectors? Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Jim Blaisdell wrote: > Linn-Benton Community College just made life easier for Electric Vehicle > Drivers by installing 3, ChargePoint EV Charging Stations. The networked > stations will have both Level 1 and Level 2, J1772 Charging capability and > each station is capable of charging 2 vehicles at the same. > > The exact location of the stations can be viewed on the map at: > http://www.chargepointportal.net/index.php/device/devicelocation.html > > Jim Blaisdell > Charge Northwest > Coulomb, Chargepoint Distributors > 22322 NE 157th St > Woodinville, WA 98077 > > 253-304-5625 cell > 253-265-0919 office > http://www.chargenw.com/ > > P Please consider the environment before printing this message. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091228/0a9d0e7f/attachment.html From blaze at chargenw.com Tue Dec 29 08:54:31 2009 From: blaze at chargenw.com (Jim Blaisdell) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:54:31 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Linn-Benton Community College installs ChargePoint EV Charging Stations In-Reply-To: <8c28d7b50912282104h56c28161gd347c7a306b8d840@mail.gmail.com> References: <9B1F1DD4-54B5-4F60-A00A-48BD80602E3A@chargenw.com> <8c28d7b50912282104h56c28161gd347c7a306b8d840@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62AE6A86-1434-45A8-B5E2-498FD1A183C6@chargenw.com> The stations at Linn-Benton will start out with Level 1 only, then, as soon at the J1772 connectors are available, about March we will add the J1772 connectors. We are just waiting on the final certification of the J1772 standard. Jim Blaisdell Charge Northwest Coulomb, Chargepoint Distributors 22322 NE 157th St Woodinville, WA 98077 253-304-5625 cell 253-265-0919 office http://www.chargenw.com/ > P Please consider the environment before printing this message. On Dec 28, 2009, at 9:04 PM, patrick0101 at gmail.com wrote: > Can you elaborate on "J1772 capability". Do these 3 stations have > J1772 connectors? > > Regards, > Pat > With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Jim Blaisdell > wrote: > Linn-Benton Community College just made life easier for Electric > Vehicle Drivers by installing 3, ChargePoint EV Charging Stations. > The networked stations will have both Level 1 and Level 2, J1772 > Charging capability and each station is capable of charging 2 > vehicles at the same. > > The exact location of the stations can be viewed on the map at: > http://www.chargepointportal.net/index.php/device/devicelocation.html > > Jim Blaisdell > Charge Northwest > Coulomb, Chargepoint Distributors > 22322 NE 157th St > Woodinville, WA 98077 > > 253-304-5625 cell > 253-265-0919 office > http://www.chargenw.com/ >> P Please consider the environment before printing this message. > > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do these 3 stations have J1772 connectors? Regards, Pat With Great Power, Comes Great Current and High Voltage =D~ On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Jim Blaisdell > wrote: Linn-Benton Community College just made life easier for Electric Vehicle Drivers by installing 3, ChargePoint EV Charging Stations. The networked stations will have both Level 1 and Level 2, J1772 Charging capability and each station is capable of charging 2 vehicles at the same. The exact location of the stations can be viewed on the map at: http://www.chargepointportal.net/index.php/device/devicelocation.html Jim Blaisdell Charge Northwest Coulomb, Chargepoint Distributors 22322 NE 157th St Woodinville, WA 98077 253-304-5625 cell 253-265-0919 office http://www.chargenw.com/ P Please consider the environment before printing this message. _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091229/1a0e4152/attachment.html From pusa411 at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 23:22:15 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:22:15 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Loading the Leaf and a Sauce update Message-ID: <793086120912292322t73d0255s8d00919f35ccc2c1@mail.gmail.com> Jon Gilbert and I watched the transport crew load the Leaf up Sunday at Midnight.. Here's his tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0vpq93hYpc Oh, the pack voltage is 345vdc.. Lithium Manganese, 48 cells in 2x sets of 24 "cans" each. 24 on their side under the back seat, and 12 each flat stacks under each front seat and rear floor. It equates out to 7.18 vdc nominal per can.. so, 3.7 volt LiMn chemistry, a few combinations are possible.. I'll let you guys know what my LiPo guy thinks when I see him at CES the 7th - 10th next mo.. ... THX.. Daniel T "Bubba" Conway Premium-EV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091229/1a9f9746/attachment.html From rbstewert at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 08:53:44 2009 From: rbstewert at gmail.com (Rob Stewert) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:53:44 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Loading the Leaf and a Sauce update In-Reply-To: <793086120912292322t73d0255s8d00919f35ccc2c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <793086120912292322t73d0255s8d00919f35ccc2c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <022DE322-BE36-4D59-839D-CC4B39630931@gmail.com> The music doesn't go with the video. Bob Stewert On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:22 PM, PREMIUM-USA wrote: > Jon Gilbert and I watched the transport crew load the Leaf up Sunday > at Midnight.. > > Here's his tube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0vpq93hYpc > > Oh, the pack voltage is 345vdc.. Lithium Manganese, 48 cells in 2x > sets of 24 "cans" each. > 24 on their side under the back seat, and 12 each flat stacks under > each front seat and rear floor. > > It equates out to 7.18 vdc nominal per can.. so, 3.7 volt LiMn > chemistry, a few combinations are possible.. > I'll let you guys know what my LiPo guy thinks when I see him at CES > the 7th - 10th next mo.. > ... > > THX.. > Daniel T "Bubba" Conway > > Premium-EV > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091230/762e2dbd/attachment.html From climer97007 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 30 10:21:56 2009 From: climer97007 at yahoo.com (Gene Climer) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:21:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Oeva-list] Loading the Leaf and a Sauce update In-Reply-To: <793086120912292322t73d0255s8d00919f35ccc2c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <793086120912292322t73d0255s8d00919f35ccc2c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <959224.93974.qm@web32203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The elevator music makes it very hard to actually hear the silence. Also, I had a hard time hearing the comments being made. Oh well. Maybe he is trying to get it on ETV? ;-P Gene ________________________________ From: PREMIUM-USA To: oeva-list at oeva.org Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 11:22:15 PM Subject: [Oeva-list] Loading the Leaf and a Sauce update Jon Gilbert and I watched the transport crew load the Leaf up Sunday at Midnight.. Here's his tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0vpq93hYpc Oh, the pack voltage is 345vdc.. Lithium Manganese, 48 cells in 2x sets of 24 "cans" each. 24 on their side under the back seat, and 12 each flat stacks under each front seat and rear floor. It equates out to 7.18 vdc nominal per can.. so, 3.7 volt LiMn chemistry, a few combinations are possible.. I'll let you guys know what my LiPo guy thinks when I see him at CES the 7th - 10th next mo.. ... THX.. Daniel T "Bubba" Conway Premium-EV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091230/61e0cfa2/attachment.html From jdaschel at embarqmail.com Wed Dec 30 15:15:48 2009 From: jdaschel at embarqmail.com (Joanne Daschel) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:15:48 -0800 Subject: [Oeva-list] Update on Lincoln City charging stations - ribbon cutting Message-ID: <021901ca89a6$068a3de0$0202a8c0@SonyVAIO> In case anyone is available to attend-- we will be there with our 1980 ElectraVan but would love to see other, more modern vehicles there as there will likely be press coverage. We can offer a place to stay if anyone is willing to make the drive and needs to charge overnight, just email me. -- Joanne Daschel This was sent to me by the head of Urban Renewal in Lincoln City, Kurt Olsen: We are planning our ribbon cutting ceremony for January 11 at 4pm. We sure hope you are able to attend. This is an update to the event you have listed on your website The City of Lincoln City is installing six Coulomb Technology Electric Vehicle Charging stations in three locations. The first two will be installed in the public parking lot at 1226 SW 50th Street. A ribbon cutting ceremony will be held at 4 PM on January 11, 2009. The two other installation locations will include the Community Center (approx. NE 22nd, near the Dairy Queen) and the Lincoln City Cultural Center (formerly DeLake Elementary, near the D River). # -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20091230/8bc5f8c6/attachment.html