[Oeva-list] Oregon's new AFTERMARKET bill

garry painter garry at europa.com
Thu Feb 12 06:24:55 PST 2009

.."However, I believe most of the world doesn't care at all"...  Bob

More often than not, it looks that way.

I was down in Alabama a few years ago and noticed there were no  
sidewalks, no crosswalks, no pedestrian signals at traffic lights.
I asked my sister, "Why don't they have sidewalks here?"
She said it was because no one walks anywhere.
They all drive.

About a year ago, my nephew in Texas sent out a family wide email  
that sounded a bit frantic.
It was about the necessity to become self sustaining.
In the email, he listed off nearly everything we take for granted, as  
things we had to do. (recycling, mass transit, bike paths, efficient  
vehicles, etc, etc.)
I thought he was a bit nuts.
Why was he telling everyone that we need to do all that, when we are  
already doing all that?
Then it hits you; "He ain't from around these parts"

Maybe this new law is aimed at the buying habits of recent immigrants  
to Oregon, who may not understand how we think here.

"Bad Timmy! No you may not put a dual quad manifold with 1500 cfm  
carburetors on your new Prius!"

On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Bob Stewert wrote:

> Danilo,
> Good answer.  However, I believe most of the world doesn't care at  
> all.  I recently was on a drive trip from NYC to N. Carolina.  I  
> saw so much waste, lack of care, garbage on the roads, the air was  
> filthy.  Employees in fast food restaurants, gas stations and  
> motels gave me puzzled looks when I asked something as simple as  
> where are the glass/plastic recycling bins.  Cigarette butts/trash  
> all over sidewalks from NYC to small towns.  Even some of our  
> "educated friends" don't care.  In Charlotte, NC (a modern city in  
> the South) I counted 6 Prius cars in 5 days.  Here in Portland I  
> can see 6 Prius' in 6 min. sometimes.
> Just scanning the bill, it seems there are 1000 better ways to  
> spend the time, money and effort.  For example, rather than paying  
> 5% more for green energy from PGE (like we do), you should have to  
> pay 5% more for dirty energy.  Rather than pay $1 for a can of coke  
> and then give 5¢ back for the can, you should have to pay $2 up  
> front, then get $1 back for the can.  It's not worth the 5¢ to most  
> people.
> So it seems to me you either have to make the thing financially  
> attractive, or cram it down your throat with a gov law.  Since most  
> people want the lowest price, you see what's left.  I don't think  
> it will pass.
> Bob
> On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:05 AM, D at nil0 wrote:
>> I'm in this list because of the same reason.
>> We all want to see a better and cleaner world.
>> What I do not want is to have my freedom compromised by mandatory  
>> governmental procedures and regulations.
>> As it has been in the past these rules are going to be applied to  
>> all aftermarket parts, even the ones that are good for the  
>> environment.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bob Stewert
>> To: Kristen Hall-Geisler
>> Cc: OEVA
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Oregon's new AFTERMARKET bill
>> I would support anything that would help me see real blue sky and  
>> breathe fresh air again.  I've felt this way for the last 50 years.
>> Bob Stewert
>> On Feb 10, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Kristen Hall-Geisler wrote:
>>> I'm not sure why EVers would want to stop this; here's the text  
>>> of the bill:http://landru.leg.state.or.us/09reg/measures/ 
>>> hb2100.dir/hb2186.intro.html
>>> Maybe I've missed a subtlety you guys have picked up on. - khg
>>> Kristen Hall-Geisler
>>> freelance writer | Portland, Oregon
>>> 503.975.0306 | kristenhallgeisler.com
>>> From: D at nil0
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:57 PM
>>> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
>>> Subject: [Oeva-list] Oregon's new AFTERMARKET bill
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>>> Help,
>>> We need to stop this. As a new bill is soon to be introduced.
>>> We need all to send emails and letters as this could be the end  
>>> of the aftermarked parts market.
>>> as you said even if you aren't from Oregon, please send an e-mail  
>>> anyways to help get this bill to fail.
>>> Your state could be next!!!!
>>> Oregon Introduces Bill to Prohibit Sale of Aftermarket Parts
>>> At the request of Governor Theodore Kulongoski, the Oregon  
>>> Speaker of the House has introduced legislation (H.B. 2186) to  
>>> prohibit the sale and distribution of aftermarket motor vehicle  
>>> parts if alternatives are available that “decrease greenhouse gas  
>>> emissions from motor vehicles.” The bill is primarily focused on  
>>> aftermarket tires and would authorize the Environmental Quality  
>>> Commission to implement enforcement regulations, likely based on  
>>> a rolling resistance calculation.
>>> We Urge You to Contact Oregon Speaker of the House Dave Hunt and  
>>> Members of the Environment and Water Committee (Contact  
>>> Information Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to  
>>> H.B. 2186
>>> H.B. 2186 would regulate vehicle fuel economy, an authority  
>>> reserved to the federal government.
>>> H.B. 2186 could ban tires that may have improved performance,  
>>> handling or appearance features, based solely on a rolling  
>>> resistance rating. In addition, this program could easily  
>>> distract consumers from focusing on more important safety issues  
>>> such as tire inflation and overloading of vehicles.
>>> H.B. 2186 would force consumers to purchase only original  
>>> equipment manufacturer (OEM) tires because the program  
>>> essentially exempts OEM-selected tires and unfairly implies that  
>>> they are superior to aftermarket products.
>>> H.B. 2186 could prohibit aftermarket parts designed to either  
>>> personalize or optimize specific vehicle performance attributes  
>>> including handling, towing, suspension, fuel economy, etc.
>>> H.B. 2186 provides broad authority to government regulators and  
>>> could limit a range of aftermarket parts currently available to  
>>> consumers based on the subjective determination of government  
>>> regulators.
>>> DON’T DELAY! Please contact Oregon Speaker Dave Hunt and the  
>>> House Environment and Water Committee immediately to urge his  
>>> opposition to H.B. 2186.
>>> Oregon House Speaker Dave Hunt
>>> Phone: 503/986-1440
>>> Email: rep.davehunt at state.or.us
>>> Oregon House Environment and Water Committee
>>> Representative Ben Cannon – Chair
>>> Phone: 503/986-1446
>>> Email: rep.bencannon at state.or.us
>>> Representative Jules Bailey
>>> Phone: 503/986-1442
>>> Email: rep.juleskopelbailey at state.or.us
>>> Representative Phil Barnhart
>>> Phone: 503/986-1411
>>> Email: rep.philbarnhart at state.or.us
>>> Representative Cliff Bentz
>>> Phone: 503/986-1460
>>> Email: rep.cliffbentz at state.or.us
>>> Representative Deborah Boone
>>> Phone: 503/986-1432
>>> Email: rep.deborahboone at state.or.us
>>> Representative Vic Gilliam
>>> Phone: 503/986-1418
>>> Email: rep.vicgilliam at state.or.us
>>> Representative Bob Jenson
>>> Phone: 503/986-1458
>>> Email: rep.bobjenson at state.or.us
>>> Representative Jefferson Smith
>>> Phone: 503/986-1447
>>> Email: rep.jeffersonsmith at state.or.us
>>> from this web site:
>>> http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62515
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