From jrab at e-m-w.com Wed May 6 09:08:03 2009 From: jrab at e-m-w.com (John Benson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:08:03 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] new Nissan EV - '..to be "real car"' Message-ID: funny that the auto industry needs to quote "real car" when describing their ev efforts. http://wardsauto.com/ar/nissan_ev_real_090430/ From dave at poweredbydc.com Wed May 6 10:28:21 2009 From: dave at poweredbydc.com (Dave Kois) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oeva-list] Sky Energy LiFePO4 Bulk Order this Week Message-ID: <566886.43988.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have started a Sky Energy bulk order that is being submitted to China?this week. ? Sky Energy has discontinued the "TK" cells that they were making for Thundersky. As of this month they are now making the SE cells that have a slightly better discharge rating of 4C vs the TS cells at 3C and 12C pulse?vs the TS?cells at 10C ? We are ordering 100,000+?amp hours?to get a lower $/Ah price from Sky Energy. Over 1/3 is already committed to individuals. ? The price available is?$1.10 per Ah plus customs, container shipping, etc. Expect about 10% extra for those costs. There is also shipping from our location in the Seattle area to your location unless you are local to us. Delivery is expected in late June or July. ? Here are the remaining cells?that are not yet committed and still available: 100 of the SE 60 Ah cells at $66 each plus shipping and customs 312 of the SE 100Ah ?at $110 each? plus shipping and customs 150 of the SE 180Ah?at $198 each? plus shipping and customs ? Sky Energy has these sizes available in the SE cell. 40 Ah, 60 Ah, 90 Ah, 100 Ah, 120 Ah, 160 Ah and 180 Ah. The 120 Ah is on the list, but not in regular production yet. ? If you want one of the sizes that is not currently part of our extra cells in the order, I need to know ASAP to add it to the purchase order. We don't need payment this week, but we do need a firm committment if you are requesting a size other than those on our extras list. We selected 60 Ah, 100 Ah and 180 Ah because those are the most popular. ? The SE 180 Ah cells are interesting because they have the same physical dimensions as the Thundersky 160 Ah cells but are more energy dense at?102 wh/kg? and 159.48wh/l? compared to 91.43wh/kg and 144.16 wh/l on the 160ah TS cells The 100ah and the 180ah are the most energy dense large format LiFePO4?cells on the market that I am aware of. Dave Kois Powered By DC, LLC EV Components, LLC dave at evcomponents.com 253-988-5020 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For people who purchased an EV, I'd like you to describe why you purchased (instead of converted) and what you would recommend to future people who are considering the purchase/convert option. We'll form three small groups and rotate among the EVs so people get a chance to learn from different people. Who would be willing to step up and describe your EV experience? Please contact me (tim_kutscha at yahoo.com) and let me know so that I can prepare for the meeting. I'll type up a "hint" card for everyone so that you know what to talk about, but you don't need to follow it. This will be a great chance to show off your vehicle and share your experience. Thanks! Tim OEVA Chair From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Fri May 8 10:59:58 2009 From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oeva-list] OEVA Monthly Meeting, May 14th at World Trade Center Message-ID: <834971.73304.qm@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello OEVA folks, It's time for another monthly meeting next Thursday, May 14th. Everyone, member or not, is welcome to attend our meetings. We'll gather as usual at 7:00PM for show-and-tell of EVs and start the meeting at 7:30PM. We meet at Two World Trade Center at 1st and Salmon in SW Portland. The courtyard will be open to display vehicles and provide some charging. The street-side charging will also be available just across 1st Ave. Agenda for the general meeting: 7:30 - Welcome new people (logistics like membership, T-shirts, flyers, e-mail list) - Announcements - Review past EVents and upcoming EVents - EV Awareness Day - Patrick - Updates on member EV projects 8:00 - We'll break up into 2-3 groups to gather around different electric vehicles in the courtyard and have informal presentations on lessons learned from peoples EV experience. We'll rotate every 20 minutes so that all groups can get input from the three EV conversions/purchases 9:00 - End the meeting so we can get home or look more at EVs Please feel free to bring information, questions and vehicles! Non-OEVA-members are welcome to attend. Cheers, Tim Kutscha OEVA Chair From roylemeur at hotmail.com Fri May 8 20:36:15 2009 From: roylemeur at hotmail.com (Roy LeMeur) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:36:15 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] -NEW- Wayland Invitational IV Flyer Message-ID: Hi OEVA Folks Please feel free to download, copy, print, and pass around this new Flyer by NEDRA webmaster/resident artist Chip Gribben- http://www.retro-electro.org/wayland_Invitational_flyer.pdf The Wayland Invitational IV is July 24 and 25 at Portland International Raceway. See NEDRA website for more info- www.nedra.com ~~~~~~ Roy LeMeur _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 From pusa411 at gmail.com Mon May 11 11:56:40 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:56:40 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] iPhone EV App Message-ID: <793086120905111156u558eb5s9709375b2e6563d5@mail.gmail.com> Hey guys.. Has anyone developed , or heard of an iPhone App.. that would convert V, A, AH, MOTOR, WEIGHT, H.M ,KW etc. Would be so cool.. THX.. Daniel T Conway -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090513/3b6e8e2d/attachment.html From jrab at e-m-w.com Thu May 14 00:37:32 2009 From: jrab at e-m-w.com (John RA Benson) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:37:32 +0200 Subject: [Oeva-list] iPhone EV App In-Reply-To: <793086120905111156u558eb5s9709375b2e6563d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <793086120905111156u558eb5s9709375b2e6563d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <876D1A7F-3CA2-48BF-9926-35FC3029942E@e-m-w.com> I've been wanting one that ties in paktrakr or emeter serial data into something useable. the 3.0 version will finally allow a "legal" serial interface and Bluetooth capability, so it's possible soon. a simple converter like you describe shouldn't be too hard to do now though. jrab On May 11, 2009, at 20:56, PREMIUM-USA wrote: > Hey guys.. Has anyone developed , or heard of an iPhone App.. > > that would convert V, A, AH, MOTOR, WEIGHT, H.M ,KW etc. > > Would be so cool.. > > THX.. > Daniel T Conway > > > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Mon May 18 12:35:03 2009 From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oeva-list] Can someone give a brief EV talk and shair their vehicle to TechShop on July 19th? Message-ID: <281092.57980.qm@web110513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi OEVA folks, I just got a request from the folks at makepdx.org to give a brief EV presentation at Portland TechShop on July 19th. They're looking for a very informal chat and demonstration of an EV conversion. I would accept the offer, but I'll be out of town. The talk is expected to be very informal, perhaps just to share your experience and mainly show off the car. Would someone who's done a home EV conversion please be willing to step up for this opportunity? There's a bit more info in the e-mail thread below. Thanks, Tim OEVA Chair ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Tim! We plan on having monthly events but we ran into a scheduling issue in May and have decided to push to June for the next official event. What you've suggested for a talk would be fantastic. Right now we are scheduling speakers for July with a tentative date of the 19th. Would that work for you? Also, I'll do my best to keep an eye on your site for upcoming events, but if you could add my email to the list of people you advertise your events to, I would happily post them on our blog and send them out to our distribution as well. Thanks! Brad On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Tim Kutscha wrote: Hi Brad, Thanks for your interest in having the OEVA come talk at a Make event. When are your events? I didn't see any general events in May or June on your calendar. Instead of having a formal talk, I could bring a home-converted electric vehicle, give a brief description as well as the advantages/disadvantages and then open up for questions. Would that work? Cheers, Tim Chair, OEVA ----- Original Message ---- From: "tim_kutscha at yahoo.com" To: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 11:07:57 PM Subject: Contact Request from OEVA website Brad Pierce (temple11 at gmail.com) has sent you (office: chair) the following feedback from the OEVA website: Hi There! My name is Brad Pierce and I'm a part of few people that are trying to get a Maker oriented group going here in Portland (http://makepdx.org). Our goal is largely to create an event and environment on a monthly basis where Makers of all interests and groups can get together and see what other creative people in town are working on. Maybe trade some ideas, maybe make some new friends and come up with completely new ideas! We've only had one event so far but it was very well received by 75 attendees (http://makepdx.org/2009/04/09/first-meeting-huge-success/). We were wondering if someone from your group would be interested in speaking at one of our upcoming events to describe your organization and how you do what you do. Please fee free to give me a call anytime and discuss! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks! Brad 503-961-4012 From roylemeur at hotmail.com Mon May 18 20:45:24 2009 From: roylemeur at hotmail.com (Roy LeMeur) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:45:24 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] NEDRA - Brand New Motorcycle Classifications Message-ID: Hi Folks In the past, NEDRA has had only _one_ motorcycle class. Now, after much thought and effort, there are four categories with many possible voltage divisions within each one. This leaves the field wide open for folks competing for a NEDRA record. There are now many slots to be filled. These new rules allow for a wide range of possible records in a very affordable racing format. Be the first to get a record in a new class! Here is the official announcement from NEDRA PR Director Chip Gribben- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NEDRA Announces New Motorcycle Classes NEDRA NEWS, May 18, 2009 NEDRA has implemented new electric motorcycle classes just in time for the 2009 racing season. Instead of one class, Motorcycle (MT), which encompassed a wide variety of motorcycles from simple street motorcycles to all out drag motorcycles, NEDRA has divided the class into four categories. This will level the playing field and provide more opportunities for motorcycle enthusiasts to obtain NEDRA records. The new classes include: Production Motorcycles (PMC), Modified Production Motorcycles (MPC), Street Motorcycles (SMC) and Drag Motorcycles (DMC). Visit the NEDRA Classes page for further details and descriptions. http://www.nedra.com/class_rules.html See you at the track!! Chip Gribben NEDRA PR pr at nedra.com http://www.nedra.com 301-490-0657 ~~~~~~ Roy LeMeur _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 From gary at whitecape.org Thu May 21 08:32:22 2009 From: gary at whitecape.org (Gary Graunke) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:32:22 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend Message-ID: <4A157406.8090804@whitecape.org> The Oregon Human Powered Vehicles and Electrathon America will be taking over PIR this weekend. We are invited to bring vehicles for a static display (no driving on the track). They open at 7am and close around 6 Saturday and Sunday, and open 7am and close around noon on Monday. We can come and go any time, except that we cannot move vehicles across the track during the electrathon times. More details are at www.OHPV.org and www.electrahonamerica.org . I'll have the static display on the inside of the track. If you can come part of the time, please reply to my email--or just drop in at the last minute. Gary ====================== Human Power Challenge 2009 *Proudly Announces* Portland International Raceway Memorial Day Weekend May 23 ? 25 *Human Power Challenge: *Open to all types of Human Powered Vehicles (recumbent or upright). Race at a venue that tests a rider in several disciplines: Road Racing, Time Trialing, Drag Racing, Auto Cross, and 200 Meter Flying Sprint. Social activities and exhibits of the latest in ?bent? technology abound all during the weekend. * * Left Coast Velomobile Gathering: 3^rd Annual velomobile extravaganza! Velomobiles are a human powered vehicle that aerodynamically encloses the rider/bike, shielding them from weather while enhancing speed at the same time. Velo specific rides, exhibitions for the spectators, and a symposium for all who want to know more about these marvels of transportation are all part of the action packed weekend at PIR. *ePower Challenge:** ** *2^nd year of the ground breaking electric assist bike race. Last year?s race was the first ever e-assist bike race in the U.S.A. There will be several races to compete in. From commercial models to home brew bikes, all are welcome to participate and celebrate this forefront technology. And in addition we are proud to have our friends at *Oregon Electric Vehicle Association* be onsite to display and demonstrate a wide variety of commercial and home built electric vehicles. * * *Come out and Join Us!** *Race, spectate, and learn about this paradigm shift in transportational reality. Admission is free for spectators. For registration and further details, see below. From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Thu May 21 08:52:26 2009 From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend In-Reply-To: <4A157406.8090804@whitecape.org> References: <4A157406.8090804@whitecape.org> Message-ID: <770609.34205.qm@web110516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Gary, Thanks for sending out the info. I believe the second link is www electrathonamerica.org If we wanted to bring a vehicle to the "inside" where you are, what are the times for moving vehicles across the track? Cheers, Tim ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Graunke To: oeva-list at oeva.org Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:32:22 AM Subject: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend The Oregon Human Powered Vehicles and Electrathon America will be taking over PIR this weekend. We are invited to bring vehicles for a static display (no driving on the track). They open at 7am and close around 6 Saturday and Sunday, and open 7am and close around noon on Monday. We can come and go any time, except that we cannot move vehicles across the track during the electrathon times. More details are at www.OHPV.org and www.electrahonamerica.org . I'll have the static display on the inside of the track. If you can come part of the time, please reply to my email--or just drop in at the last minute. Gary ====================== Human Power Challenge 2009 *Proudly Announces* Portland International Raceway Memorial Day Weekend May 23 ? 25 *Human Power Challenge: *Open to all types of Human Powered Vehicles (recumbent or upright). Race at a venue that tests a rider in several disciplines: Road Racing, Time Trialing, Drag Racing, Auto Cross, and 200 Meter Flying Sprint. Social activities and exhibits of the latest in ?bent? technology abound all during the weekend. * * Left Coast Velomobile Gathering: 3^rd Annual velomobile extravaganza! Velomobiles are a human powered vehicle that aerodynamically encloses the rider/bike, shielding them from weather while enhancing speed at the same time. Velo specific rides, exhibitions for the spectators, and a symposium for all who want to know more about these marvels of transportation are all part of the action packed weekend at PIR. *ePower Challenge:** ** *2^nd year of the ground breaking electric assist bike race. Last year?s race was the first ever e-assist bike race in the U.S.A. There will be several races to compete in. From commercial models to home brew bikes, all are welcome to participate and celebrate this forefront technology. And in addition we are proud to have our friends at *Oregon Electric Vehicle Association* be onsite to display and demonstrate a wide variety of commercial and home built electric vehicles. * * *Come out and Join Us!** *Race, spectate, and learn about this paradigm shift in transportational reality. Admission is free for spectators. For registration and further details, see below. _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list From mhodgert at bethel.k12.or.us Thu May 21 09:05:25 2009 From: mhodgert at bethel.k12.or.us (Hodgert, Mike) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:05:25 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend References: <4A157406.8090804@whitecape.org> <770609.34205.qm@web110516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: HI all, Glad to see that you will have a static display there so our kids and others can see that there are real life working cars out there and not just these "toys". Thanks. The person to contact about any questions for this weekend is the Race Stewart--Mark Watts, mark_watts at centennial.k12.or.us 1/503-762-6108 He is a teacher at Centennial High in Gresham. There should be about 60-70 one person, ultra-light-ultra effecient electric race cars buzzing around. These are raced to see how far they can travel on just 67 pounds of standard "non-leakable" lead acid batteries. So Gel cell, glass mat, etc. Most of us run 2 Optima 75/35 red tops. On the long track they should go around 46 miles in the hour and on the short more crooked track around 35 miles in the hour. Thanks again, Mike Hodgert Teacher Willamette High in Eugene. ________________________________ From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org on behalf of Tim Kutscha Sent: Thu 5/21/2009 8:52 AM To: oeva-list at oeva.org Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend Hi Gary, Thanks for sending out the info. I believe the second link is www electrathonamerica.org If we wanted to bring a vehicle to the "inside" where you are, what are the times for moving vehicles across the track? Cheers, Tim ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Graunke To: oeva-list at oeva.org Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:32:22 AM Subject: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend The Oregon Human Powered Vehicles and Electrathon America will be taking over PIR this weekend. We are invited to bring vehicles for a static display (no driving on the track). They open at 7am and close around 6 Saturday and Sunday, and open 7am and close around noon on Monday. We can come and go any time, except that we cannot move vehicles across the track during the electrathon times. More details are at www.OHPV.org and www.electrahonamerica.org . I'll have the static display on the inside of the track. If you can come part of the time, please reply to my email--or just drop in at the last minute. Gary ====================== Human Power Challenge 2009 *Proudly Announces* Portland International Raceway Memorial Day Weekend May 23 - 25 *Human Power Challenge: *Open to all types of Human Powered Vehicles (recumbent or upright). Race at a venue that tests a rider in several disciplines: Road Racing, Time Trialing, Drag Racing, Auto Cross, and 200 Meter Flying Sprint. Social activities and exhibits of the latest in "bent" technology abound all during the weekend. * * Left Coast Velomobile Gathering: 3^rd Annual velomobile extravaganza! Velomobiles are a human powered vehicle that aerodynamically encloses the rider/bike, shielding them from weather while enhancing speed at the same time. Velo specific rides, exhibitions for the spectators, and a symposium for all who want to know more about these marvels of transportation are all part of the action packed weekend at PIR. *ePower Challenge:** ** *2^nd year of the ground breaking electric assist bike race. Last year's race was the first ever e-assist bike race in the U.S.A. There will be several races to compete in. From commercial models to home brew bikes, all are welcome to participate and celebrate this forefront technology. And in addition we are proud to have our friends at *Oregon Electric Vehicle Association* be onsite to display and demonstrate a wide variety of commercial and home built electric vehicles. * * *Come out and Join Us!** *Race, spectate, and learn about this paradigm shift in transportational reality. Admission is free for spectators. For registration and further details, see below. _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090521/f2319354/attachment.html From gary.graunke at intel.com Thu May 21 09:44:38 2009 From: gary.graunke at intel.com (Graunke, Gary) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:44:38 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend In-Reply-To: References: <4A157406.8090804@whitecape.org> <770609.34205.qm@web110516.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9662F248D13E8C45B097A77F005E9729301AF500@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com> Thanks for the info. I called Mark Watts and left a message. (The high school number is 762 6180). I post the black-out times as soon as I know them. The electrathons are only one hour, so if we come during the race, it won't be too long.... BTW, this is a great opportunity for those who are looking at hyper-efficient vehicles to learn. The electrathon and bikes have aerodynamic designs and are much more efficient than regular bikes. Efficient vehicles mean much less batteries or much better range. Gary ________________________________ From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of Hodgert, Mike Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:05 AM To: Tim Kutscha; oeva-list at oeva.org Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend HI all, Glad to see that you will have a static display there so our kids and others can see that there are real life working cars out there and not just these "toys". Thanks. The person to contact about any questions for this weekend is the Race Stewart--Mark Watts, mark_watts at centennial.k12.or.us 1/503-762-6108 He is a teacher at Centennial High in Gresham. There should be about 60-70 one person, ultra-light-ultra effecient electric race cars buzzing around. These are raced to see how far they can travel on just 67 pounds of standard "non-leakable" lead acid batteries. So Gel cell, glass mat, etc. Most of us run 2 Optima 75/35 red tops. On the long track they should go around 46 miles in the hour and on the short more crooked track around 35 miles in the hour. Thanks again, Mike Hodgert Teacher Willamette High in Eugene. ________________________________ From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org on behalf of Tim Kutscha Sent: Thu 5/21/2009 8:52 AM To: oeva-list at oeva.org Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend Hi Gary, Thanks for sending out the info. I believe the second link is www electrathonamerica.org If we wanted to bring a vehicle to the "inside" where you are, what are the times for moving vehicles across the track? Cheers, Tim ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Graunke To: oeva-list at oeva.org Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:32:22 AM Subject: [Oeva-list] Event this weekend The Oregon Human Powered Vehicles and Electrathon America will be taking over PIR this weekend. We are invited to bring vehicles for a static display (no driving on the track). They open at 7am and close around 6 Saturday and Sunday, and open 7am and close around noon on Monday. We can come and go any time, except that we cannot move vehicles across the track during the electrathon times. More details are at www.OHPV.org and www.electrahonamerica.org . I'll have the static display on the inside of the track. If you can come part of the time, please reply to my email--or just drop in at the last minute. Gary ====================== Human Power Challenge 2009 *Proudly Announces* Portland International Raceway Memorial Day Weekend May 23 - 25 *Human Power Challenge: *Open to all types of Human Powered Vehicles (recumbent or upright). Race at a venue that tests a rider in several disciplines: Road Racing, Time Trialing, Drag Racing, Auto Cross, and 200 Meter Flying Sprint. Social activities and exhibits of the latest in "bent" technology abound all during the weekend. * * Left Coast Velomobile Gathering: 3^rd Annual velomobile extravaganza! Velomobiles are a human powered vehicle that aerodynamically encloses the rider/bike, shielding them from weather while enhancing speed at the same time. Velo specific rides, exhibitions for the spectators, and a symposium for all who want to know more about these marvels of transportation are all part of the action packed weekend at PIR. *ePower Challenge:** ** *2^nd year of the ground breaking electric assist bike race. Last year's race was the first ever e-assist bike race in the U.S.A. There will be several races to compete in. From commercial models to home brew bikes, all are welcome to participate and celebrate this forefront technology. And in addition we are proud to have our friends at *Oregon Electric Vehicle Association* be onsite to display and demonstrate a wide variety of commercial and home built electric vehicles. * * *Come out and Join Us!** *Race, spectate, and learn about this paradigm shift in transportational reality. Admission is free for spectators. For registration and further details, see below. _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list _______________________________________________ Oeva-list mailing list Oeva-list at oeva.org http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090521/cf2b1786/attachment-0001.html From gary.graunke at intel.com Thu May 21 10:32:01 2009 From: gary.graunke at intel.com (Graunke, Gary) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:32:01 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] PIR schedule details Message-ID: <9662F248D13E8C45B097A77F005E9729301AF640@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com> http://ohpv.org/HPC/RacingSchedule.html The electrathon times are 12:15-1:15 and 3:15-4:15 on Saturday, 11-12 and 2-3 on Sunday. (Thanks, Mark!) We won't be able to cross the track at these times. Some non-electrathon events allow "traffic calmed crossing" which means that we may be able to cross when there are gaps in the traffic. Gary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090521/6de4aec4/attachment.html From roylemeur at hotmail.com Fri May 22 10:18:48 2009 From: roylemeur at hotmail.com (Roy LeMeur) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:18:48 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: [seva] 90 Miata EV for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ________________________________ > From: andrew_schwarz at hotmail.com > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:58:23 -0700 > To: seva at seattleeva.org > Subject: [seva] 90 Miata EV for sale > > > Hello All > > I'm selling my 1990 Miata Ev. You may have seen it at the Greenwood car shows. Dave Cloud and I converted the Miata in 2005. You can see more pictures at http://home.comcast.net/~aschwarz7 The picture on the website where taken in 2005. > > * 30 - 40 miles per change > * 18 - 8volt workaholic lead aicd (new in Feb 2009) > * new clutch (stage 2) > * Zilla Z1K controller. > * Manzanita charger > * Body and paint is in great shape > * No A/C or power steering anymore. > > $15,000 > > > For more information you can email me or call me at 425-301-1692. > > If you know anyone who maybe interested and not a member of the group, please forward the email. > > Thanks > Andrew Schwarz > 90 Miata EV > > > > P.S. Sorry for the previous bad email. I tried to send pictures in the email. > > ________________________________ > Hotmail? has a new way to see what's up with your friends. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: footer.txt Url: /pipermail/attachments/20090522/d3a4774a/attachment.txt From phil at hochstetler.com Fri May 22 14:14:18 2009 From: phil at hochstetler.com (phil hochstetler) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:14:18 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] anyone have a trailer I can borrow for this weekend? Message-ID: <37a5993b0905221414s2544d7d8sa4bea8229e0ff746@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have a trailer I can borrow for the weekend? I'm thinking of taking my Twike out to PIR for the Human Powered / ePower weekend but I don't think I can make the 500+ climb and 15 miles to get all the way out to PIR from my house. It needs to be setup for a 2" ball and and standard 4 wire slot style electrical hookup and 9 feet in length (min) and 4 feet in width (min) so I can pull it with my car (I have a hitch setup already). If I can't find one this afternoon, I might try to rent one at the last minute from U-Haul. Thanks. --phil From mark58150 at yahoo.com Fri May 22 18:58:39 2009 From: mark58150 at yahoo.com (mark58150 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oeva-list] 1994 Geo EV Message-ID: <623434.8053.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ? I'm considering selling my 1994 Geo Metro EV?and?it seems posting it?to the list wouldn't hurt.?The reasons for?selling?are several and include?transitioning to?an EV public policy focus and winding down EV projects.?The Geo is a nice EV and a new owner could do a lot more with?it if they wanted. Its on the EV Photo Album here: ? http://www.evalbum.com/701 ?? Mark Freidberg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090522/d11a3266/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Sat May 23 00:11:51 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 00:11:51 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Daimler takes 10% stake in Tesla Message-ID: <8c28d7b50905230011t4c6afd22idc9352d28557c167@mail.gmail.com> Daimler takes 10% stake in Tesla from PlanetTeslaby MPT [image: Daimler back in the day] At a press conference in Stuttgart, Germany Elon Musk and Dr. Thomas Weber, Member of the Board of Daimler AG announced the strategic alliance to accelerate the commercialization of electric drives globally. "Daimler has set the benchmark for engineering excellence and vehicle quality for more than a century. It is an honor and a powerful endorsement of our technology that Daimler would choose to invest in and partner with Tesla," said Tesla Chairman, CEO and Product Architect Elon Musk. "Daimler is also on the leading edge in the field of sustainable mobility. Among others the lithium-ion pouch-cell battery developed by Daimler and especially designed for automotive applications is of interest to us. We are looking forward to a strategic cooperation in a number of areas including leveraging Daimler's engineering, production and supply chain expertise. This will accelerate bringing our Tesla Model S to production and ensure that it is a superlative vehicle on all levels." Prof. Herbert Kohler, Vice President E-Drive and Future Mobility at Daimler will take up a seat on the board at Tesla. Video of the announcement can be found at the Daimler site here: http://www.daimler.com/press/90519/e -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322948x1201367184/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090524/d7cc39f0/attachment.html From oeva_treas at yahoo.com Sun May 24 11:36:21 2009 From: oeva_treas at yahoo.com (Ray Blackburn) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: electronic version of Current EVent, now an option Message-ID: <731703.1318.qm@web111114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have fowarded this message from the EAA.? Seems like a good thing if you have higher speed internet access.? Saves postage and paper.? Ray. ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Will Beckett To: membership at eaaev.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:18:42 AM Subject: RE: electronic version of Current EVent, now an option Sorry, there was a typo: ? Please let members know they can now elect to receive only the electronic version of Current EVents.? The cost of producing and mailing by postal mail the now, very large, Current EVents has become a major expense.? We were going to hold off and wait for the new database but it has become necessary to offer this option now.? This will ?be an option that appears on the renewal form and I will be accepting request by email as well.? Please pass this on to your membership.? It would be helpful for me to have a member numberand preferred email address with this request.? Thanks! ? - Will ? Electric Auto Association Membership 323 Los Altos Drive ? (831) 688-8669 ? http://eaaev.org/eaamembership.html?? ? Aptos, CA? 95003 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090524/7b806c2b/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Tim ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Joel Goodwin To: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:08:38 AM Subject: Swap-N-Drive Greetings to all! The patent application has finally been submitted? It?s time to share the concept of the Swap-N-Drive with everyone. We are located in Austin , TX and about 10 days ago, we turned on the website and uploaded the GOODWIN SWAPPER video on Youtube. Our website is under construction with much more needing to be done with it. However, there is some great information available now. The 2.5 minute animation will give a reasonable idea of what we are up to. We have one removable traction pack assembled and the EV it fit?s into is about 40% complete. Now that the patent is submitted, we are focused on setting up to assemble the first four arm swapper. With luck, it should be operational by the end of July. We look forward to show the assemble EV with removable traction pack to the public some time in the near future. 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URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090525/39a23ac3/attachment.html From matwete at comcast.net Mon May 25 22:17:24 2009 From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:17:24 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Swap-N-Drive In-Reply-To: <601640.42651.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <601640.42651.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004e01c9ddc1$41b88c50$c529a4f0$@net> A concept whose time has come? uh, oh yeah, that?s right?it was done by Milburn in 1917/18: http://www.milburn.us/docs/27_instr-08.jpg I guess 92 years later isn?t too late. -Myles From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of Tim Kutscha Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:11 AM To: oeva-list at oeva.org Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Swap-N-Drive Hi All, For those of you who know about the Better Place idea (carwash-like machine that swaps battery packs), it looks like there's a company in Austin trying to make a home version. I realize that some might consider this spam, but I think its relevant to EVs, so I'm forwarding this on. Maybe it will give some of you converting vehicles ideas for making your own swappable packs. Cheers, Tim ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Joel Goodwin To: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:08:38 AM Subject: Swap-N-Drive Greetings to all! The patent application has finally been submitted? It?s time to share the concept of the Swap-N-Drive with everyone. We are located in Austin , TX and about 10 days ago, we turned on the website and uploaded the GOODWIN SWAPPER video on Youtube. Our website is under construction with much more needing to be done with it. However, there is some great information available now. The 2.5 minute animation will give a reasonable idea of what we are up to. We have one removable traction pack assembled and the EV it fit?s into is about 40% complete. Now that the patent is submitted, we are focused on setting up to assemble the first four arm swapper. With luck, it should be operational by the end of July. We look forward to show the assemble EV with removable traction pack to the public some time in the near future. Check out swapndrive.com. We will continually be updating the site with more information and correcting those little mistakes that happen when you are at the get go of something new. Enjoy! Joel Goodwin Winfordtek. LLP joel at winfordtek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090525/dda1646d/attachment.html From pusa411 at gmail.com Tue May 26 12:56:14 2009 From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:56:14 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Swap-n Drive Message-ID: <793086120905261256p63529cc7m1a89572472656b9b@mail.gmail.com> I'd rather see a 24v 100 ah hand changeable "Cartridge" Style i e 6 cartridges @ 48 # ea. like telco power supplies.. easier for these small cars, say 2 in front and 4 in back.. and NO Licensing Fees.. THX.. Daniel T Conway Premium-USA > > 1. Re: Fw: Swap-N-Drive (Myles Twete) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090526/66e59eb9/attachment.html From tim_kutscha at yahoo.com Tue May 26 16:21:59 2009 From: tim_kutscha at yahoo.com (Tim Kutscha) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Chelsea test drives the Volt Message-ID: <18143.5935.qm@web110509.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Here's a forward from one of my EV enthusiast friends: Cheers, Tim ----- Forwarded Message ---- From the Atlanta EV group. Subject: FW: Chelsea test drives the Volt ________________________________ From: Paul Scott [mailto:paul at pluginamerica.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:20 PM To: Paul Scott Subject: Chelsea test drives the Volt Those of you who know Chelsea Sexton (the red head from "Who Killed the Electric Car?"), know she's a wealth of information on all things having to do with plug-in vehicles. Given her position as a senior advisor to VantagePoint Venture Partners, Plug In America's initial Executive Director and a consulting producer on Chris Paine's upcoming "Revenge of the Electric Car", she is privy to lots of the action happening with the various OEMs' plug-in vehicle programs. Her history with GM's EV1 is legend, so when she was asked to test drive the Volt, she jumped at the chance. I've been bugging her to blog on her activities so we can get some of this great info out to those who crave the latest. Also, Chelsea always seems to be able to articulate things in a way that clarifies the reality without all the PR baggage the car makers or battery manufacturers bring to the table. So, today is the inauguration of Chelsea Sexton's blog. Chris Paine and crew traveled to Detroit with her to record the event. Chelsea writes, "Next to the car was Frank Weber, looking more proud and hopeful than I?ve ever seen. Self-described with the statement ?I am German, I am an engineer- I do not feel?, Frank has always seemed pessimistic to me against the aspirational backdrop of the Volt team- but even he couldn?t completely disguise his thrill at finally having something functional to show after two years of talking. I?d had enough of the talking, myself- so with little fanfare, I was pointed toward the track and let loose. After the first few of many laps, Jim, ?the Voltkeeper? who tended the car all day from a technical standpoint, asked if might stop smiling anytime soon. I think Frank just wondered if all EV people drive that fast?" And for the naysayers who claim the Volt has problems with the range extender mode, Chelsea has this to say, "I also failed to talk the guys into letting me drive the Volt in range-extended mode- I?d really been hoping to put to rest all the conjecture that because no one?s been allowed to drive it that way, there must be something wrong with it. Alas, Frank was typically insistent that it just wasn?t ready. I persisted, assuring him I?m familiar with pre-production systems, but he remained stoic, until I finally pinned him- ?what is so wrong with this car that you won?t let anyone drive it with the engine on?? He paused, and admitted almost sheepishly, ?well, when the engine comes on, you can hear it.? I kept waiting for more, but that was it-the big mystery? you can hear the engine. I started to note how that would be, oh, I don?t know, standard for an internal combustion engine in any car and that some people prefer it that way, but I was chastened by my own admiration for the position he took. While there?s absolutely a point where you have to stop engineering and start building, Frank?s statement is indicative of the attention to detail being paid to the Volt." And finally, she touches on the attitude of GM and their engineers, contrasting that with the horrible mistake of letting Bob Lutz get on the Letterman show last week and once again lie (my words) about the EV1 program: "Driving the Volt was a mix of experiences- it was a fun day, and it?s great to see spots of hope in Detroit from folks who are excited to be working on ?something cool again? (their words). And let?s face it, it was also a relief- there were certainly some years there when I wasn?t sure they?d ever get even this far on a plug-in car again. But in the end, building the car won?t be their biggest challenge- it never has been. Whether they can get behind it effectively as it hits showrooms remains to be seen. And I remain repeatedly frustrated at watching them struggle to tell their own story, or when they allow, say, Bob Lutz to go on national television. I think they?re learning, but I wonder often if the wisdom will come fast enough- and at what cost. I still don?t know that they entirely understand the nuances of passion people have for electric cars- but I do think that they understand just what?s at stake for this one. It is the end of the poker game for GM, and they?re all in. There's lots more, see it here: http://evchels.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/poker-faces/ Paul ***** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090526/a66cbf51/attachment.html From patrick0101 at gmail.com Tue May 26 23:46:38 2009 From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:46:38 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] First Electric Mini Delivered Message-ID: <8c28d7b50905262346r3f83e0b4h120014d8f869d652@mail.gmail.com> First Electric Mini Delivered! Peter Trepp in Southern California is the first consumer to take delivery of their electric Mini. The USA Today storybegins: "Peter Trepp just can't keep his foot off the accelerator of his new Mini E." Regards, Pat If going without is not an option, go efficient -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090526/5a391dc1/attachment.html From mccann.sean at gmail.com Wed May 27 10:52:16 2009 From: mccann.sean at gmail.com (Sean McCann) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:52:16 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] Great Article about the Mini E Pat... Message-ID: It's a shame that; "BMW's Mini has made 500 of the cars that it is leasing for about $850 a month to learn more about how electric cars will hold up in service." Not too many people can afford $850 a month. It throws me back to the days of the EV1. I hope it doesn't turn out the same way in the end. Reference article: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/openroad/post/2009/05/67236897/1 Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Pat If going without is not an option, go efficient On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Sean McCann wrote: > It's a shame that; "BMW's Mini has made 500 of the cars that it is leasing > for about $850 a month to learn more about how electric cars will hold up in > service." > > Not too many people can afford $850 a month. > > It throws me back to the days of the EV1. I hope it doesn't turn out the > same way in the end. > > Reference article: > http://content.usatoday.com/communities/openroad/post/2009/05/67236897/1 > > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Oeva-list mailing list > Oeva-list at oeva.org > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090527/aa2cbafd/attachment-0001.html From frodus17 at gmail.com Sat May 30 14:16:00 2009 From: frodus17 at gmail.com (Travis Gintz) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:16:00 -0700 Subject: [Oeva-list] June 2009 Headway Group Buy Message-ID: *Headway 10 Ah (38120S cell) bulk buy, June, 2009: * As some of you already know, the Headway group buy for May has ended and is currently underway. I know some of you missed out, but here's the good news.....we're putting together another group buy for mid-June! After organizing the first group buy by myself, I have been offered help from EV Components in setting up another one. They also have group buys with Thundersky and Sky Energy underway. We've partnered up and plan on offering the Headway cells on a regular basis. More information here: http://www.evcomponents.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=41 Here are the details: - We're putting in an order of 5,000 cells, some BMS units and some various pack sizes as well as pack hardware. - The order will go in on the 8th of June, 2009, and will be shipped via sea freight. - The estimated delivery in Seattle Washington is approximately mid July. - *The price per 10Ah cell starts at $17.00* plus ground shipping from Seattle to your destination. - There is a 50% deposit required when you order, then the rest is due right before being shipped to your door. - We will be offering a warranty of one year on any of the batteries bought through us, two years if you purchase our BMS. - If there is a custom configuration you need, we can consult and offer solutions on anything you need. - We now have more than just batteries and BMS......and will be adding more in the near future. Link to Headway cell pricing and specifications: http://www.evcomponents.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=41 How is this different from the first group buy? - No waiting for 35 other people to pay before the order goes out. - Less risk, because you can use a credit card or Paypal to pay for your order. - Importing and shipping processes have been established. - A good business relationship has been established with Headway with the first group buy. - No signing a waiver. Just pay, wait and receive batteries. - We can take PayPal, Credit card and other forms of payment (see website for details). www.evcomponents.comhas established the least expensive prices for LiFePO4 batteries in the USA for small individual orders. If you need more information, all specs and prices are available on our website. Thanks, Travis Gintz EV Components, LLC. 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