[Oeva-list] http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ctd/1396619578.html

[Theoldcars at aol.com]

Hello Steve
 
Not until you posted the link.
 
If the conversion was being done by a private party with the intent to be 
for their own learning and use that would be great. If this is intended as a 
vehicle for sale to the general public then I would have to agree with your 
concern. Most people know absolutely nothing about EVs and buying from a 
business would expect more. Maybe even more than one should or can expect in 
the real world. They would expect the business to be the expert.
 
 
I did not spend a great amount of time reading but just scanned though the 
link. It sounds like they used copper pipe for bus bars. Cooper pipe does 
conduct electric but it is an alloy that is not intended for this. It could 
cause a loss of power with higher resistance or other issues over time as well.
 
This sentence posted is concerning. "124 vdc so they were only about 5% 
depleted" It has 10 AGM batteries going by this math the 100 percent depleted 
would be zero volts. This not correct 100 percent depleted would be around 
100 volts depending on what the battery manufacturer states. I have never 
heard of any lead acid battery recommend taken below 10 volts for 12 volt 
battery. 

 
It would be great if conversions could be done at reasonable prices by a 
business. However I do not see the general population ready to accept the 
limitations of an EV. EVs are also expensive and better batteries are still very 
expensive which add greatly to the completed cost. I have owned and run a 
business for going on 25 years. I would give anyone a high five having an EV 
business that did not lose money. Several years I first heard a saying at an 
OEVA meeting about how to make a million in EVs. Is you start with two 
million and you will soon have one million. It was true then and sadly from 
everything I see it is still true today.
 
They seem like nice people and if they support EVs that is great. My 
response here is not to run off or to put down people trying to make EVs possible. 
I do see some concerning statements that show they need to do more research 
and learning. They do not under stand batteries by the above statement. If 
they do not fully comprehend EVs and related items then when asked they will 
be giving out incorrect information.
 
I don't intend to come off as an expert in building or knowing everything 
about EVs. Most of my experience is working on the OEM EVs and maintaining of 
them. Although I did not build them the amount of engineering and 
workmanship is easy to see and it is impressive. Most of it cannot be duplicated but 
you can learn a lot from servicing them. I have a very strong interest in 
building an EV and research doing so as much as time permits.
 
Don
 
 
In a message dated 10/4/2009 2:44:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
oeva-list-request at oeva.org writes:

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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:06:31 -0700
From: steve boser <greenerwheels at gmail.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Bad name to ev conversions? OEVA
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Has anyone seen this EV Bug? It looks to me, like they started with a rusted
out beetle (notice floor pan photos and collapsible steering column? ) and
started a conversion, the batteries are unsafe and not well secured in the
drivers compartment and boot. I'm not sure what they are doing with the
flywheel. I realize it is a work in progress but they are offering it for
sale. To me this looks like something that would give ev conversions a very
bad name.


http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ctd/1396619578.html

link to

http://www.thegreensceneev.com/-75-VW-Beetle-Electric-Conversion.html

Thanks

Steve
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