[Oeva-list] Xebra tax credit--final answer
Philip Kollas
pkollas at comcast.net
Mon Oct 5 17:43:14 PDT 2009
While I don¹t know what will happen in 2010, I was able to get Curt the
exact form and info he needs to get is this-year Oregon tax credit on his
Xebra, so we can close out this topic now.
Thanks,
Philip Kollas
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On 10/5/09 11:10 AM, "oeva-list-request at oeva.org"
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> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:54:51 -0700
> From: patrick0101 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Xebra rebates
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> I just reread the part about the federal $7500 phase out. I was confusing
> the HEV incentive and the PHEV incentives. Here is the correct bit for PHEVs
> "The first 200,000 vehicles sold by each manufacturer are eligible for the
> full tax credit; the credit will then phase out over a year."
>
> Sorry for the confusion (and the long reply). There is a lot related to
> plug-in car incentives that will change in January.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> If going without is not an option, go efficient =D~
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:42 PM, <patrick0101 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> There is a federal incentive of up to $7500 and a state incentive of up to
>> $5000 both planned to start in 2010. I am not sure if the Xebra qualifies
>> for either.
>>
>> For Oregon this was done with House Bill
>> 2180<http://www.leg.state.or.us/09reg/measures/hb2100.dir/hb2180.b.html>.
>> The $1500 HEV incentive is eliminated at the end of this year and replaced
>> by the Plug-in incentive. How the Oregon incentive is calculated is not
>> clear to me, but I did see a couple clues in the amendments to the bill. It
>> is not to exceed 25% of the vehicle and it is limited to a max of $5000.
>> There may be other restrictions too (number of wheels, speed, battery
>> capacity...). If anyone knows a good source for these additional details,
>> please let me know.
>>
>> There also appeared to be a limit of using $1500 of the credit per year,
>> with the rest to be carried forward. This is what I had to do for my solar
>> credit with the state too.
>>
>> One thing is clear, we are going to need to update the info on the
>> oeva.org resource page in January.
>>
>> As for the federal incentive, it ranges from $2,500 - $7,500, depending on
>> the vehicle's battery capacity. To be eligible for the credit, the vehicles
>> have at least 6 kWh batteries.
>>
>> You can read the details here (federal tax
>> credits<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?ShorepowerTechnologi/4f3dabf4ed/38781b71a9/b3
>> f1404652>for EVs and PHEVS).Here is my understanding:
>>
>>
>> - Full incentive for first 60,000 vehicles per manufacturer, then
>> phased out. At 200,000 vehicles the incentive is eliminated for that
>> manufacturer
>> - Sales and leases are both covered.
>> - Low speed electric vehicles and 2 & 3 wheeled vehicles with batteries
>> of at least 2.5 kWh are eligible for a 10% tax credit up to $2,500 through
>> 2011.
>> - Qualified conversions of vehicles to plug-in hybrid or all electric
>> are eligible for a 10% tax credit up to $4,000 through 2011.
>> - Limited to vehicles weighing less than 14,000 lbs.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pat
>> If going without is not an option, go efficient =D~
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Philip Kollas <pkollas at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Curt,
>>>
>>> Unless things have changed recently (which I?ve not heard), you will get
>>> only the *state *tax credit, not a federal one. The fed program for pure
>>> electrics expired at the end of 2007 . . . how convenient; just when
>>> interest in EVs was about to surge. What remains is a credit for some
>>> hybrids?nothing for pure electrics.
>>>
>>> While your frustration with the Oregon Energy Dept?s site is
>>> understandable?I went through the same thing earlier this year?the form is
>>> available online at that site (see my final paragraph, below). Just print
>>> it and fill it out, then mail it to the address shown in the info, along
>>> with your proof of purchase. It?s not as slick as an online registration,
>>> but it does work, and it?s worth the effort.
>>>
>>> The state was very generous (my opinion) with its tax credit. In my
>>> application form, I told the state that my Xebra had an *onboard *charging
>>> system, which it does, and which I thought might qualify the Xebra for the
>>> second half of the tax credit. The Oregon credit is one half for the
>>> vehicle, one half for a charging system (if any), for a possible total of
>>> $1,500. But since the cost of the Xebra included the cost of the charging
>>> system, I had no way to split out the respective amounts for vehicle vs.
>>> charging system. The state gave me a $1,250 rebate, out of the possible
>>> $1,500. I thought that was very fair, given that I could show no proof of
>>> the amount of the additional fee for the charger. I had figured that they
>>> might just credit me with the first $750, as I had not purchased a
>>> stand-alone charger.
>>>
>>> Take a good look through the state Energy Dept?s site, click on the link
>>> that pops open the PDF form, and print it. It?s under the heading on the
>>> right side called ?*Alternative Fuel Vehicles or Charging/Fueling
>>> Systems?; *ignore the link to ?Hybrid Vehicle Tax Credits?--the Xebra is
>>> not a hybrid. [The Energy Dept considers electricity an ?alternative fuel,?
>>> though I despise that term for electrics.] If you still have trouble
>>> getting to the form, let me know and I?ll try to help.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Philip Kollas
>>> =====
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/4/09 12:00 PM, "oeva-list-request at oeva.org" <
>>> oeva-list-request at oeva.org> wrote:
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>>>
>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Re: Cash for clunkers item (cje at hevanet.com)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:21:10 GMT
>>>> From: cje at hevanet.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Cash for clunkers item
>>>> To: "Joanne Daschel" <jdaschel at embarqmail.com>, <oeva-list at oeva.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <200910041521.n94FLAF5010943 at broadway.hevanet.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hope we can get back to electric vehicle information! 1980 Electravan
>>>>> owner Joanne Daschel, Lincoln City OR
>>>>
>>>> Okay, let's! I bought a new Xebra this spring. I'm pretty sure I get a
>>>> fed and state credit for it, and I've been kinda hunting around. I find
>>>> some conflicting stuff -- some sites say I get one, some say I don't.
>>>> The Oregon Energy Department website is about useless, and my emails go
>>>> unanswered. I think I found the federal tax form on the web. Anyone
>>>> know for sure?
>>>>
>>>> Curt Erickson
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> Subject: [Oeva-list] Stolen EV Cycle
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> Something to keep in mind at the many EVents (and meetings) where we show
> our vehicles: as EV demand increases, sadly, so does the their value to
> thieves.
>
> http://green.autoblog.com/2009/09/30/stolen-zero-s-swiped-from-fuel-promotiona
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> Regards,
> Pat
> If going without is not an option, go efficient =D~
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> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Stolen EV Cycle
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> One day, EVs will become so commonplace that EV rallies and the OEVA itself
> become as ho-hum as ordinary car club rallies.
>
> No more need for promoting, outreach, PR or advocacy and political support.
>
> Just folks getting together with similarly propelled vehicles.
>
> And the vehicles themselves won't be as targeted for theft as a 70's
> Mustang.
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> These are interesting times.
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> -Myles
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> Something to keep in mind at the many EVents (and meetings) where we show
> our vehicles: as EV demand increases, sadly, so does the their value to
> thieves.
>
> http://green.autoblog.com/2009/09/30/stolen-zero-s-swiped-from-fuel-promotio
> nal-tour/
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> If going without is not an option, go efficient =D~
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