From john.p.christian at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 15:08:22 2010
From: john.p.christian at gmail.com (John Christian)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 15:08:22 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Volt production increased for 2012
Message-ID: <AANLkTimQRo0g0W-HE5m38ZuudGeCBhoKF-ADaiJ7KNhH@mail.gmail.com>

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?post=1788431&_blg=1,1786466

Interesting to note that demand for the Volt has sparked GM to increased its
production target for 2012 from 30k to 45k cars. And, while I am not a huge
fan of the serial hybrid cars, it is another significant reinforcement of
the fact the the buying public wants an EV style alternative to ICE based
driving.

Regads,

-- 
John P. Christian
OEVA Chairman

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From john.p.christian at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 15:13:10 2010
From: john.p.christian at gmail.com (John Christian)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 15:13:10 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: [seva] ITT Interconnect Solutions intros the new
 EVC Series connectors represent the industry's first UL-rated,
 J1772 Level II 75 amp 	charging solution
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References: <MMLID_74841-C1D2AF35694FF54D9CAF889F6C0A92C7015152A1C2@SERVER1.Tri-Digital.local>
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More J1772 connector sources.......

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From: Roger Swearingen <Roger at tri-digital.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:47 PM
Subject: [seva] ITT Interconnect Solutions intros the new EVC Series
connectors represent the industry's first UL-rated, J1772 Level II 75 amp
charging solution
To: SEVA <seva at seattleeva.org>


 Another manufacturer besides Amphenol producing the J1772 connector sets,
this one for the full 75 Amp rating.

http://www.ittcannon.com/NewProduct.aspx?id=3786



*Roger Swearingen* | Chief Technical Officer | 206.234.5685



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From pablito1949 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  2 16:48:18 2010
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:48:18 -0700 (PDT)
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 23:44:55 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 23:44:55 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Brammo Girls
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6S6kfKV5HjM84yo0GSY1cofYXymbzZ2LCiRRZ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT4QZKUkMFI
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From john.p.christian at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 09:33:24 2010
From: john.p.christian at gmail.com (John Christian)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:33:24 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: [seva] NISSAN LEAF ( The Production Car) HITS
	SEATTLE
In-Reply-To: <MMLID_10847-4C588923.2060708@comcast.net>
References: <MMLID_10847-4C588923.2060708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=C9tS+BFZrxLUS+k4Vb3kP7A7x1mp8ve-0sW0u@mail.gmail.com>

Check out pictures of a production level Leaf visiting Seattle yesterday.
Note the engine compartment and the Nav screens. I wondor if it will be
coming to Portland next?

regards,
John

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From: Steven Lough <stevenslough at comcast.net>
Date: Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:24 PM
Subject: [seva] NISSAN LEAF ( The Production Car) HITS SEATTLE
To: seva at seattleeva.org


Here are some pictures of the car, and of some of the very interesting
Dash Board Displays we took this morning..  At:

http://picasaweb.google.com/stevenslough1206/Leaf08032010#

And another LINK to a Ride and Drive with the SAME car, in L.A. a few days
ago at:

http://tinyurl.com/2dn5btn
-- 
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Seattle EV Association
6021 32nd Ave. N.E.
Seattle,  WA  98115-7230
Day:  206 524 1351
Cell:   206 850 8535
e-mail: stevenslough at comcast.net
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From jon at photodad.com  Wed Aug  4 13:34:18 2010
From: jon at photodad.com (Jon Balgley)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 13:34:18 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: [Fwd: NEWS ADVISORY: Governor Kulongoski to Test
 Drive Nissan LEAF and Unveil Nation's First Quick- Charge Station]
In-Reply-To: <4C59CC6B.7010805@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTimppcQtV0kU_J0zJCS4BsBSkkyRrVpAY7Lz2WJh@mail.gmail.com>

FYI --



   * *

* *

*Theodore R. Kulongoski*

*          Governor*



* *

*FOR NEWS PLANNING*                    **

*August 4, 2010*



Contact:
Anna Richter Taylor, 503-378-6169

Rem Nivens, 503-378-6496



*Governor Kulongoski to Test Drive Nissan LEAF and Unveil Nation?s First
Quick- Charge Station*

* *

*(Salem) ?* Governor Ted Kulongoski tomorrow will test drive the Nissan
LEAF, an all-electric vehicle coming soon to the Portland market. The
Governor will also demonstrate the first public quick-charge station in the
country.

* *

*WHAT:*           Governor Kulongoski to test drive Nissan LEAF and unveil
nation?s first quick-charge station**

* *

*WHO:*             Governor Ted Kulongoski, PGE President Jim Piro and
Nissan Official Mark Perry



*WHEN:*           Thursday, August 5, 2010

10:00 a.m.



*WHERE:        *Two World Trade Center Garage (Level P1) - corner of Naito
Parkway and Taylor Street

                        Portland





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From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Thu Aug  5 07:33:29 2010
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 07:33:29 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] DC Quick Charge comes to Oregon
Message-ID: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E180C80CA@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>


[image002.jpg]

________________________________


Theodore R. Kulongoski
Governor

          [image001.gif]

FOR NEWS PLANNING
July 30, 2010


Public Schedule for Governor Ted Kulongoski
August 2 - August 6, 2010
(Subject to Change)
Monday, August 2

No Public Events Scheduled


Tuesday, August 3

No Public Events Scheduled


Wednesday, August 4

No Public Events Scheduled


Thursday, August 5

10:00 a.m.                   Governor to Test Drive Nissan Leaf and Unveil New Quick-Charging Station
PGE - World Trade Center
121 SW Salmon St.
Portland


Friday, August 6

12:00 p.m.                   Governor to Address the City Club of Central Oregon on his Reset Report
                                    St. Charles Medical Center
                                    2500 NE Neff Road
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From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Thu Aug  5 14:14:25 2010
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:14:25 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Portland General Electric Quick Charge Station Business
	wire
Message-ID: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E18144D0C@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/portland-general-electric-opens-north-americas-first-public-use-quick-charge-station-for-electric-vehicles-in-collaboration-with-nec-2010-08-05?reflink=MW_news_stmp<mailto:mtinskey at ford.com>
________________________________________________
Rick Durst | Portland General Electric
121 SW Salmon St, 3WTC0407 | Portland, Oregon 97204 | *: 503.464-7631 | 7: 503.464-2284 | *: Rick.Durst at pgn.com<mailto:rick.durst at pgn.com>

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From nscale7 at aol.com  Thu Aug  5 22:39:38 2010
From: nscale7 at aol.com (nscale7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:39:38 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station
In-Reply-To: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E18144D0C@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>
References: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E18144D0C@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>
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Rick,
Do you know how much the quick-charger cost with installation, and how does that cost compare to the other charging stations already there (5-20, 14-50, SPI, etc.)
 
Also, the Market Watch article refers to this as the first quick-charge station in the country, but unless I?m mistaken the first was at the Vacaville Bella Vista Road Park and Ride, which was installed March 16th and powered-on May 23rd. However, Vacaville users must first contact the power utility to gain access to the quick-charger, so perhaps the World Trade Center quick-charger is the first where users can show up without pre-authorization?
 
Is payment required to use the quick-charger? For that matter, do EVs have to pay to park in the garage? I've only ever parked on the street, so I don't know.

And one last question. Everyone talks about the quick-charger bringing the battery to 80% in 30 minutes, but after that will the quick-charger taper down and continue charging to 100%, or does it shut off at 80%?

-Chase Ballew



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Durst <Rick.Durst at pgn.com>
To: Rick Durst <Rick.Durst at pgn.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 2:14 pm
Subject: [Oeva-list] Portland General Electric Quick Charge Station Business wire


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/portland-general-electric-opens-north-americas-first-public-use-quick-charge-station-for-electric-vehicles-in-collaboration-with-nec-2010-08-05?reflink=MW_news_stmp
________________________________________________ 
Rick Durst | Portland General Electric
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From alan at batie.org  Fri Aug  6 00:41:50 2010
From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:41:50 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station
In-Reply-To: <8CD0340E547449C-14A0-7D62@webmail-d072.sysops.aol.com>
References: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E18144D0C@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>
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On 8/5/10 10:39 PM, nscale7 at aol.com wrote:

> And one last question. Everyone talks about the quick-charger bringing
> the battery to 80% in 30 minutes, but after that will the quick-charger
> taper down and continue charging to 100%, or does it shut off at 80%?

Something else that comes to mind is coming up with a protocol for
replugging: as ev's get more popular, charging station congestion will
become an issue.  I'm not sure if the new setup makes it moot, but if
the car that's plugged in is charged up and someone else comes along, it
would be reasonable for them to take over the plug.  Presumably the
financial part resets when the plug is pulled.  It's probably not as
much as an issue for the level 3 chargers where you probably should have
to stick around the car and move it when the charging's done, but level
2 would be more like the existing ones.

Anyway, just seems like now's a good time to have the discussion, rather
than after the conflict's begin...

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From chris at darkstarpro.com  Fri Aug  6 05:48:22 2010
From: chris at darkstarpro.com (Chris Arnesen)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:48:22 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station
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Hey Chase,

This is indeed the very first public quick charge station in the United 
States. The quick charge station in Vacaville is actually locked up and 
not certified by the local government for public use, where the one in 
Portland is powered up, unlocked, and certified for public use.

There is no charge to use the quick charge station, however there is a 
$3 parking fee in general for the parking garage.

Yesterday I stopped by and checked out the Nissan Leaf charging there 
and it will charge the first 80% of the way in about 20-25 minutes, then 
it lowers the rate and continues to charge to 100% in an additional 
20-25 minutes (they brought it in with about 5% remaining and the 
machine stated it needed a total of 40 minutes for a 100% charge).

The Nissan Leaf will be in and out of the garage today (Friday) doing 
drives for the media and then it's off to Las Vegas for a Nissan 
dealership convention. I imagine that PGE will turn off the machine for 
now since there aren't many CHAdeMO compatible vehicles yet in the 
United States.

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

On 8/5/2010 10:39 PM, nscale7 at aol.com wrote:
> Rick,
> Do you know how much the quick-charger cost with installation, and how 
> does that cost compare to the other charging stations already there 
> (5-20, 14-50, SPI, etc.)
> Also, the Market Watch article refers to this as the first 
> quick-charge station in the country, but unless I'm mistaken the first 
> was at the Vacaville Bella Vista Road Park and Ride, which was 
> installed March 16th and powered-on May 23rd. However, Vacaville users 
> must first contact the power utility to gain access to the 
> quick-charger, so perhaps the World Trade Center quick-charger is the 
> first where users can show up without pre-authorization?
> Is payment required to use the quick-charger? For that matter, do EVs 
> have to pay to park in the garage? I've only ever parked on the 
> street, so I don't know.
> And one last question. Everyone talks about the quick-charger bringing 
> the battery to 80% in 30 minutes, but after that will the 
> quick-charger taper down and continue charging to 100%, or does it 
> shut off at 80%?
> -Chase Ballew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Durst <Rick.Durst at pgn.com>
> To: Rick Durst <Rick.Durst at pgn.com>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 2:14 pm
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Portland General Electric Quick Charge Station 
> Business wire
>
> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/portland-general-electric-opens-north-americas-first-public-use-quick-charge-station-for-electric-vehicles-in-collaboration-with-nec-2010-08-05?reflink=MW_news_stmp
> __________________________________________________
> *Rick Durst** *| Portland General Electric
> 121 SW Salmon St, 3WTC0407 | Portland, Oregon 97204 | (: 503.464-7631 
> | 7: 503.464-2284 | *: Rick.Durst at pgn.com <mailto:rick.durst at pgn.com>

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From jrenoe at formancetech.com  Fri Aug  6 08:48:29 2010
From: jrenoe at formancetech.com (Josh Renoe)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:48:29 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station
In-Reply-To: <380-22010856154217983@M2W130.mail2web.com>
References: <380-22010856154217983@M2W130.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <D9432289553C1741838D03B46528F51A043068813A@P1EC3EVS01.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>

I was told by a taxi cab fleet manager for radio cab in Portland that
Nissan told him that Nissan DOES NOT recommend you use L3 charging for
everyday use. Only use it for quick emergency charging as it drastically
reduces battery life. I guess we still need better batteries before we can
quickly "Charge and go".


Josh
Shorepower

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Arnesen
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:48 AM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station

Hey Chase,

This is indeed the very first public quick charge station in the United
States. The quick charge station in Vacaville is actually locked up and not
certified by the local government for public use, where the one in Portland
is powered up, unlocked, and certified for public use.

There is no charge to use the quick charge station, however there is a $3
parking fee in general for the parking garage.

Yesterday I stopped by and checked out the Nissan Leaf charging there and
it will charge the first 80% of the way in about 20-25 minutes, then it
lowers the rate and continues to charge to 100% in an additional 20-25
minutes (they brought it in with about 5% remaining and the machine stated
it needed a total of 40 minutes for a 100% charge).

The Nissan Leaf will be in and out of the garage today (Friday) doing
drives for the media and then it's off to Las Vegas for a Nissan dealership
convention. I imagine that PGE will turn off the machine for now since
there aren't many CHAdeMO compatible vehicles yet in the United States.

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

On 8/5/2010 10:39 PM, nscale7 at aol.com<mailto:nscale7 at aol.com> wrote:
Rick,
Do you know how much the quick-charger cost with installation, and how does
that cost compare to the other charging stations already there (5-20,
14-50, SPI, etc.)

Also, the Market Watch article refers to this as the first quick-charge
station in the country, but unless I'm mistaken the first was at the
Vacaville Bella Vista Road Park and Ride, which was installed March 16th
and powered-on May 23rd. However, Vacaville users must first contact the
power utility to gain access to the quick-charger, so perhaps the World
Trade Center quick-charger is the first where users can show up without
pre-authorization?

Is payment required to use the quick-charger? For that matter, do EVs have
to pay to park in the garage? I've only ever parked on the street, so I
don't know.

And one last question. Everyone talks about the quick-charger bringing the
battery to 80% in 30 minutes, but after that will the quick-charger taper
down and continue charging to 100%, or does it shut off at 80%?

-Chase Ballew

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Durst <Rick.Durst at pgn.com><mailto:Rick.Durst at pgn.com>
To: Rick Durst <Rick.Durst at pgn.com><mailto:Rick.Durst at pgn.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 2:14 pm
Subject: [Oeva-list] Portland General Electric Quick Charge Station
Business wire
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/portland-general-electric-opens-north-ameri
cas-first-public-use-quick-charge-station-for-electric-vehicles-in-collabora
tion-with-nec-2010-08-05?reflink=MW_news_stmp
________________________________________________
Rick Durst | Portland General Electric
121 SW Salmon St, 3WTC0407 | Portland, Oregon 97204 | *: 503.464-7631 | 7:
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From alan at batie.org  Fri Aug  6 11:08:55 2010
From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:08:55 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station
In-Reply-To: <D9432289553C1741838D03B46528F51A043068813A@P1EC3EVS01.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>
References: <380-22010856154217983@M2W130.mail2web.com>
	<D9432289553C1741838D03B46528F51A043068813A@P1EC3EVS01.HMC1.COMCAST.NET>
Message-ID: <4C5C4FB7.90605@batie.org>

On 8/6/10 8:48 AM, Josh Renoe wrote:
> I was told by a taxi cab fleet manager for radio cab in Portland that
> Nissan told him that Nissan DOES NOT recommend you use L3 charging for
> everyday use. Only use it for quick emergency charging as it drastically
> reduces battery life. I guess we still need better batteries before we can
> quickly "Charge and go".

It only makes sense for cross country "gas station" use; you don't need
it otherwise.

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From nickgaladay at msn.com  Fri Aug  6 16:35:30 2010
From: nickgaladay at msn.com (Nick)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:35:30 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick Charge Station
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1281121206.22024.oeva-list@oeva.org>
References: <mailman.17.1281121206.22024.oeva-list@oeva.org>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP788D6327E2E68691889AD2BD910@phx.gbl>

"Cross-country gas station use"?  It depends on where you live.  I was
counting on Level 3 use every time I came into the city.  I'm 47 miles from
Powell's Books!   Now I think I'll install a Level 2 lash-up at my kid's on
Mt. Tabor and just stay a lot longer visiting the grand kids.  This could
change our whole family dynamic!  For sure, it means I'll have to think
twice about using Level 3 regularly when I drive in to volunteer at the VA
on Pill Hill.  There goes that economical idea, unless they install a Level
II in their parking garage.

   Nick Galaday
        Vernonia, OR 
            Energy conservation--
????                 saves more than energy!


Message: 2
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:08:55 -0700
From: Alan Batie <alan at batie.org>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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On 8/6/10 8:48 AM, Josh Renoe wrote:
> I was told by a taxi cab fleet manager for radio cab in Portland that
> Nissan told him that Nissan DOES NOT recommend you use L3 charging for
> everyday use. Only use it for quick emergency charging as it drastically
> reduces battery life. I guess we still need better batteries before we can
> quickly "Charge and go".

It only makes sense for cross country "gas station" use; you don't need
it otherwise.

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From alan at batie.org  Fri Aug  6 16:54:00 2010
From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:54:00 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick Charge Station
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP788D6327E2E68691889AD2BD910@phx.gbl>
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On 8/6/10 4:35 PM, Nick wrote:
> "Cross-country gas station use"?  It depends on where you live.

Well, if you live in the country... ;-)

> For sure, it means I'll have to think
> twice about using Level 3 regularly when I drive in to volunteer at the VA
> on Pill Hill.  There goes that economical idea, unless they install a Level
> II in their parking garage.

I think there's already a level 2 at the wtc, isn't that what they
replaced the old setup with at the ev parking spaces there?  Though that
would mean bussing up to the va...

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From salzmande at comcast.net  Fri Aug  6 19:04:34 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 19:04:34 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
Message-ID: <DCA87CC1-95D0-469A-96A3-6FF6699A3FB6@comcast.net>

Hey Folks,

I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I received my  
quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger will be  
mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire would  
be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp 240 volt  
breaker.  The quote was,

standard installation      				$1296.68
charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*	  $721.12
custom installation					  $247.00
installation permit & processing		    $80.00
shipping & delivery					    $49.95
sales tax							    $63.10
total									$2457.85

My questions to AV and Nissan are;    #1 SALES TAX in Oregon?
								    #2 custom installation for 3 feet of wire?
								    #3 what is the charger doc price with the standard 15 '  
cord?
								    #4 what are your hourly rates for electricians?

I live in St. Helens and the electrician is coming from Salem so  
figure 2 hours travel time, 1 hour to do the job. $1296.68 for 3 hours  
work? The electricians here get from $50 to $85 an hour. There are a  
couple in my neighborhood. I'm presently waiting for a call back from  
AV to answer these questions. Nissan has asked me to fill out a survey  
on the assessment & quote experience. I will wait for the answers  
before I respond.


Stay Well,


Dave 	


  
   


From salzmande at comcast.net  Fri Aug  6 21:47:33 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:47:33 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Charger assessment
References: <969441.85864.qm@web59102.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1BE62EC7-30EC-4E87-A14E-BBDF6861D909@comcast.net>

Anne,
I just don't believe in paying $2457.85 for $300.00 worth of work  
regardless of what Nissan says!

Dave
>
> i live in portland. i haven't found an electrician yet that goes for  
> under 100 bucks per hour. the price nissan laid out in the beginning  
> is close to the $2457.85 that you listed.
>
> Anne Perretta
>
>
> From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
> To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 7:04:34 PM
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I received my
> quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger will be
> mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire would
> be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp 240 volt
> breaker.  The quote was,
>
> standard installation                      $1296.68
> charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*      $721.12
> custom installation                      $247.00
> installation permit & processing            $80.00
> shipping & delivery                        $49.95
> sales tax                                $63.10
> total                                    $2457.85
>
> My questions to AV and Nissan are;    #1 SALES TAX in Oregon?
>                                     #2 custom installation for 3  
> feet of wire?
>                                     #3 what is the charger doc price  
> with the standard 15 '
> cord?
>                                     #4 what are your hourly rates  
> for electricians?
>
> I live in St. Helens and the electrician is coming from Salem so
> figure 2 hours travel time, 1 hour to do the job. $1296.68 for 3 hours
> work? The electricians here get from $50 to $85 an hour. There are a
> couple in my neighborhood. I'm presently waiting for a call back from
> AV to answer these questions. Nissan has asked me to fill out a survey
> on the assessment & quote experience. I will wait for the answers
> before I respond.
>
>
> Stay Well,
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From alan at batie.org  Sat Aug  7 01:42:57 2010
From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie)
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 01:42:57 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
In-Reply-To: <DCA87CC1-95D0-469A-96A3-6FF6699A3FB6@comcast.net>
References: <DCA87CC1-95D0-469A-96A3-6FF6699A3FB6@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C5D1C91.9020208@batie.org>

On 8/6/10 7:04 PM, Dave Salzman wrote:
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I received my  
> quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger will be  
> mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire would  
> be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp 240 volt  
> breaker.  The quote was,
> 
> standard installation      				$1296.68
> charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*	  $721.12
> custom installation					  $247.00

It cost me $243 to have a 20A 240V outlet installed about 8" below my
panel in the garage in Mar 2006 for my Solectria.  *Not* surface mounted
(though 8" vertical was admittedly trivial).  So $247 seems reasonable,
which makes me wonder what the $1300 is for...  The tax I'll assume was
just a mistake by a non-Oregonian.

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From Theoldcars at aol.com  Sat Aug  7 11:51:51 2010
From: Theoldcars at aol.com (Theoldcars at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:51:51 EDT
Subject: [Oeva-list] Leaf Charger assessment EV range
Message-ID: <20adc.71237a25.398f0547@aol.com>

 
Dave 
 
Not sure if I am reading the price list correct but it looks like 721.12 is 
for the charging station? I agree 300 to 400 dollars would be more in line 
with installing plus permit fees. As long as it is a simple installation.
 
I am considering buying the Leaf without a level two station. Soon there 
will be other companies selling charging stations since drivers are going to 
want portable units. Prices for the charge stations should drop or at least 
become available. Then you could shop for completive installation prices if 
one wants to hard wire it. I think the bill should be for about half of the 
$2457.85. 
 
Its handy and fast but 240 volts is not required to drive electric. I 
charge with 240 but most of the day the charger and truck are not being used.
 
Estimating 3 miles gained with 120 charging per hour. You could charge up 
at least 40 miles of range at home with 120 volts. If you could pick up any 
additional 120 charging during the day it could be extended to 60 miles. 
 
Also keep in mind if you start off Monday with 100 miles could be divided 
20 miles to your work week. So you could go 60 miles a day as long as you can 
pick up 12 plus hours of charging with 120 volts on week days. This would 
be without any charging during 10 hours a day. 
 
Charging by 120 is slow but for most people the vehicle is parked. Actual 
time driving is little compared to how long an EV has to recharge. 
 
Range is going to vary a bit by driver and conditions.
 
Don
 
In a message dated 8/7/2010 1:43:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
oeva-list-request at oeva.org writes:

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:47:33 -0700
From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Charger assessment
To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
Message-ID: <1BE62EC7-30EC-4E87-A14E-BBDF6861D909 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Anne,
I just don't believe in paying $2457.85 for $300.00 worth of work  
regardless of what Nissan says!

Dave
>
> i live in portland. i haven't found an electrician yet that goes for  
> under 100 bucks per hour. the price nissan laid out in the beginning  
> is close to the $2457.85 that you listed.
>
> Anne Perretta
>
>
> From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
> To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 7:04:34 PM
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I received my
> quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger will be
> mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire would
> be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp 240 volt
> breaker.  The quote was,
>
> standard installation                      $1296.68
> charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*      $721.12
> custom installation                      $247.00
> installation permit & processing            $80.00
> shipping & delivery                        $49.95
> sales tax                                $63.10
> total                                    $2457.85
>
> My questions to AV and Nissan are;    #1 SALES TAX in Oregon?
>                                     #2 custom installation for 3  
> feet of wire?
>                                     #3 what is the charger doc price  
> with the standard 15 '
> cord?
>                                     #4 what are your hourly rates  
> for electricians?
>
> I live in St. Helens and the electrician is coming from Salem so
> figure 2 hours travel time, 1 hour to do the job. $1296.68 for 3 hours
> work? The electricians here get from $50 to $85 an hour. There are a
> couple in my neighborhood. I'm presently waiting for a call back from
> AV to answer these questions. Nissan has asked me to fill out a survey
> on the assessment & quote experience. I will wait for the answers
> before I respond.
>
>
> Stay Well,
>
>
> Dave

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From mark58150 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  7 14:52:02 2010
From: mark58150 at yahoo.com (Mark Freidberg)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:52:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] 1980 Jet ElectraVan 600
Message-ID: <874202.58352.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
















Hi Everyone,
?
The ElectraVan is up for sale and interested persons can find more info on it and several others on the Jet Industries EV Photo Album pages here: http://www.evalbum.com/type/JETI
?
These Vans are not for everyone but if you are knowledgable about them and are a serious prospective buyer feel free to email me offlist. I'll try to bring it to the upcoming OEVA meeting.
?
Mark


      
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From nickgaladay at msn.com  Sat Aug  7 16:26:59 2010
From: nickgaladay at msn.com (Nick)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 16:26:59 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Leaf charger assessment
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1281207606.94160.oeva-list@oeva.org>
References: <mailman.11.1281207606.94160.oeva-list@oeva.org>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP42FD5F2E00BB326A97A3DBBD920@phx.gbl>

Just as we found when we started looking for insurance companies to cover
our EVs, or asking if AAA would serve our needs, the local electrical
contractors must have started salivating when Nissan rode into town with
their fat wallet and non-standard requests.  Things will simmer down once
everyone gets up to speed.  But meanwhile, we have to be vigilant and keep
these folks honest.  First you car manufacturers, your EVs should cost less,
not more, than a conventional ICE once the economies of scale kick in on the
batteries; just count the number of moving parts.  Second you "charger"
(actually switched-cord) "Dock" manufacturers, When the economies of scale
kick in you're going to look pretty greedy trying to charge nearly a
thousand dollars for a few blinking LEDs, a GFCI circuit and a cord.  And
lastly you electrical contractors, Rube doesn't only ride into town on his
donkey once; there will be a tomorrow!  OEVA members are watching you and
taking names.  Get greedy once, shame on us, twice, we'll hear about you on
"2 On Your Side"!  What is the name of that electrical contractor Dave?
Sales tax my foot.  If they actually get away with these shenanigans I'll
even come out of retirement long enough to gore this goose a couple o' times
myself.  It's amazing what the competitive bidding process can accomplish.
A Federal option anyone?  And remember, Dave had to PAY $500 for this "bid"!
Just a note to the folks at Nissan:  This kind of nonsense could be the
undoing of your otherwise long-awaited EV rollout; keep your minions in toe!
The Ford will be out sooner than you think!

   Nick Galaday
        Vernonia, OR 97064
            Energy conservation--
????                 saves more than energy!


Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:51:51 EDT
From: Theoldcars at aol.com
Subject: [Oeva-list] Leaf Charger assessment EV range
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Message-ID: <20adc.71237a25.398f0547 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 
Dave 
 
Not sure if I am reading the price list correct but it looks like 721.12 is 
for the charging station? I agree 300 to 400 dollars would be more in line 
with installing plus permit fees. As long as it is a simple installation.
 
I am considering buying the Leaf without a level two station. Soon there 
will be other companies selling charging stations since drivers are going to

want portable units. Prices for the charge stations should drop or at least 
become available. Then you could shop for completive installation prices if 
one wants to hard wire it. I think the bill should be for about half of the 
$2457.85. 
 

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:47:33 -0700
From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Charger assessment
To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
Message-ID: <1BE62EC7-30EC-4E87-A14E-BBDF6861D909 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Anne,
I just don't believe in paying $2457.85 for $300.00 worth of work  
regardless of what Nissan says!

Dave
>
> i live in portland. i haven't found an electrician yet that goes for  
> under 100 bucks per hour. the price nissan laid out in the beginning  
> is close to the $2457.85 that you listed.
>
> Anne Perretta
>
>
> From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
> To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 7:04:34 PM
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I received my
> quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger will be
> mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire would
> be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp 240 volt
> breaker.  The quote was,
>
> standard installation                      $1296.68
> charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*      $721.12
> custom installation                      $247.00
> installation permit & processing            $80.00
> shipping & delivery                        $49.95
> sales tax                                $63.10
> total                                    $2457.85
>
> My questions to AV and Nissan are;    #1 SALES TAX in Oregon?
>                                     #2 custom installation for 3  
> feet of wire?
>                                     #3 what is the charger doc price  
> with the standard 15 '
> cord?
>                                     #4 what are your hourly rates  
> for electricians?
>
> I live in St. Helens and the electrician is coming from Salem so
> figure 2 hours travel time, 1 hour to do the job. $1296.68 for 3 hours
> work? The electricians here get from $50 to $85 an hour. There are a
> couple in my neighborhood. I'm presently waiting for a call back from
> AV to answer these questions. Nissan has asked me to fill out a survey
> on the assessment & quote experience. I will wait for the answers
> before I respond.
>
>
> Stay Well,
>
>
> Dave

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From salzmande at comcast.net  Sat Aug  7 18:36:16 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 18:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Leaf Charger assessment EV range
References: <20adc.71237a25.398f0547@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3990AF96-7A2B-44FE-ACA6-1CB1328137DC@comcast.net>

Don,
I was told by two dealers that if you don't go for AV's charge port  
you must sign a waver voiding your 8 year 100,000 mile warranty  on  
the battery pack. Still checking all this with Nissan tech support.

Dave

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Theoldcars at aol.com
> Date: August 7, 2010 11:51:51 AM PDT
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Leaf Charger assessment EV range
>
> Dave
>
> Not sure if I am reading the price list correct but it looks like  
> 721.12 is for the charging station? I agree 300 to 400 dollars would  
> be more in line with installing plus permit fees. As long as it is a  
> simple installation.
>
> I am considering buying the Leaf without a level two station. Soon  
> there will be other companies selling charging stations since  
> drivers are going to want portable units. Prices for the charge  
> stations should drop or at least become available. Then you could  
> shop for completive installation prices if one wants to hard wire  
> it. I think the bill should be for about half of the $2457.85.
>
> Its handy and fast but 240 volts is not required to drive electric.  
> I charge with 240 but most of the day the charger and truck are not  
> being used.
>
> Estimating 3 miles gained with 120 charging per hour. You could  
> charge up at least 40 miles of range at home with 120 volts. If you  
> could pick up any additional 120 charging during the day it could be  
> extended to 60 miles.
>
> Also keep in mind if you start off Monday with 100 miles could be  
> divided 20 miles to your work week. So you could go 60 miles a day  
> as long as you can pick up 12 plus hours of charging with 120 volts  
> on week days. This would be without any charging during 10 hours a  
> day.
>
> Charging by 120 is slow but for most people the vehicle is parked.  
> Actual time driving is little compared to how long an EV has to  
> recharge.
>
> Range is going to vary a bit by driver and conditions.
>
> Don
>
> In a message dated 8/7/2010 1:43:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, oeva-list-request at oeva.org 
>  writes:
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:47:33 -0700
> From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Charger assessment
> To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> Message-ID: <1BE62EC7-30EC-4E87-A14E-BBDF6861D909 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Anne,
> I just don't believe in paying $2457.85 for $300.00 worth of work
> regardless of what Nissan says!
>
> Dave
> >
> > i live in portland. i haven't found an electrician yet that goes for
> > under 100 bucks per hour. the price nissan laid out in the beginning
> > is close to the $2457.85 that you listed.
> >
> > Anne Perretta
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
> > To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> > Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 7:04:34 PM
> > Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
> >
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I received  
> my
> > quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger will  
> be
> > mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire  
> would
> > be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp 240  
> volt
> > breaker.  The quote was,
> >
> > standard installation                      $1296.68
> > charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*      $721.12
> > custom installation                      $247.00
> > installation permit & processing            $80.00
> > shipping & delivery                        $49.95
> > sales tax                                $63.10
> > total                                    $2457.85
> >
> > My questions to AV and Nissan are;    #1 SALES TAX in Oregon?
> >                                     #2 custom installation for 3
> > feet of wire?
> >                                     #3 what is the charger doc price
> > with the standard 15 '
> > cord?
> >                                     #4 what are your hourly rates
> > for electricians?
> >
> > I live in St. Helens and the electrician is coming from Salem so
> > figure 2 hours travel time, 1 hour to do the job. $1296.68 for 3  
> hours
> > work? The electricians here get from $50 to $85 an hour. There are a
> > couple in my neighborhood. I'm presently waiting for a call back  
> from
> > AV to answer these questions. Nissan has asked me to fill out a  
> survey
> > on the assessment & quote experience. I will wait for the answers
> > before I respond.
> >
> >
> > Stay Well,
> >
> >
> > Dave
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
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From salzmande at comcast.net  Sat Aug  7 22:20:37 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:20:37 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Leaf charger assessment
References: <BLU0-SMTP42FD5F2E00BB326A97A3DBBD920@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <183B8BD3-642D-4956-BEBF-8EE22C92AA3C@comcast.net>

Nick,
Thanks for the support. I was beginning to think I might be alone in  
my thinking. The electrical contractor was Rite-Way out of Salem. The  
estimator's name was Micha Rose and he was very professional and  
explained just what the job would consist of. He explained that he  
couldn't talk money but assured me it was a simple job which I all  
ready knew. His paper work gets sent to AV in Monrovia, Ca. they then  
make up the quote and post it on my account. I talked to a Mike at AV  
on Thursday and was told he would contact the person that actuality  
wrote the quote and have them address my concerns and get back to me.  
Nissan wants to know what we think of the assessment process. That  
survey will have to wait for now.  :-)

Dave

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Nick" <nickgaladay at msn.com>
> Date: August 7, 2010 4:26:59 PM PDT
> To: <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Leaf charger assessment
>
> Just as we found when we started looking for insurance companies to  
> cover
> our EVs, or asking if AAA would serve our needs, the local electrical
> contractors must have started salivating when Nissan rode into town  
> with
> their fat wallet and non-standard requests.  Things will simmer down  
> once
> everyone gets up to speed.  But meanwhile, we have to be vigilant  
> and keep
> these folks honest.  First you car manufacturers, your EVs should  
> cost less,
> not more, than a conventional ICE once the economies of scale kick  
> in on the
> batteries; just count the number of moving parts.  Second you  
> "charger"
> (actually switched-cord) "Dock" manufacturers, When the economies of  
> scale
> kick in you're going to look pretty greedy trying to charge nearly a
> thousand dollars for a few blinking LEDs, a GFCI circuit and a  
> cord.  And
> lastly you electrical contractors, Rube doesn't only ride into town  
> on his
> donkey once; there will be a tomorrow!  OEVA members are watching  
> you and
> taking names.  Get greedy once, shame on us, twice, we'll hear about  
> you on
> "2 On Your Side"!  What is the name of that electrical contractor  
> Dave?
> Sales tax my foot.  If they actually get away with these shenanigans  
> I'll
> even come out of retirement long enough to gore this goose a couple  
> o' times
> myself.  It's amazing what the competitive bidding process can  
> accomplish.
> A Federal option anyone?  And remember, Dave had to PAY $500 for  
> this "bid"!
> Just a note to the folks at Nissan:  This kind of nonsense could be  
> the
> undoing of your otherwise long-awaited EV rollout; keep your minions  
> in toe!
> The Ford will be out sooner than you think!
>
>   Nick Galaday
>        Vernonia, OR 97064
>            Energy conservation--
>                      saves more than energy!
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:51:51 EDT
> From: Theoldcars at aol.com
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Leaf Charger assessment EV range
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Message-ID: <20adc.71237a25.398f0547 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Dave
>
> Not sure if I am reading the price list correct but it looks like  
> 721.12 is
> for the charging station? I agree 300 to 400 dollars would be more  
> in line
> with installing plus permit fees. As long as it is a simple  
> installation.
>
> I am considering buying the Leaf without a level two station. Soon  
> there
> will be other companies selling charging stations since drivers are  
> going to
>
> want portable units. Prices for the charge stations should drop or  
> at least
> become available. Then you could shop for completive installation  
> prices if
> one wants to hard wire it. I think the bill should be for about half  
> of the
> $2457.85.
>
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:47:33 -0700
> From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Charger assessment
> To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> Message-ID: <1BE62EC7-30EC-4E87-A14E-BBDF6861D909 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Anne,
> I just don't believe in paying $2457.85 for $300.00 worth of work
> regardless of what Nissan says!
>
> Dave
>>
>> i live in portland. i haven't found an electrician yet that goes for
>> under 100 bucks per hour. the price nissan laid out in the beginning
>> is close to the $2457.85 that you listed.
>>
>> Anne Perretta
>>
>>
>> From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
>> To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org>
>> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 7:04:34 PM
>> Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
>>
>> Hey Folks,
>>
>> I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I received my
>> quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger will be
>> mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire would
>> be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp 240  
>> volt
>> breaker.  The quote was,
>>
>> standard installation                      $1296.68
>> charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*      $721.12
>> custom installation                      $247.00
>> installation permit & processing            $80.00
>> shipping & delivery                        $49.95
>> sales tax                                $63.10
>> total                                    $2457.85
>>
>> My questions to AV and Nissan are;    #1 SALES TAX in Oregon?
>>                                    #2 custom installation for 3
>> feet of wire?
>>                                    #3 what is the charger doc price
>> with the standard 15 '
>> cord?
>>                                    #4 what are your hourly rates
>> for electricians?
>>
>> I live in St. Helens and the electrician is coming from Salem so
>> figure 2 hours travel time, 1 hour to do the job. $1296.68 for 3  
>> hours
>> work? The electricians here get from $50 to $85 an hour. There are a
>> couple in my neighborhood. I'm presently waiting for a call back from
>> AV to answer these questions. Nissan has asked me to fill out a  
>> survey
>> on the assessment & quote experience. I will wait for the answers
>> before I respond.
>>
>>
>> Stay Well,
>>
>>
>> Dave
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From nisaacs at optechsw.com  Sat Aug  7 22:54:04 2010
From: nisaacs at optechsw.com (Nathan Isaacs)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:54:04 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Free Cookies and Charging: Beaverton Installs OpConnect
	EV Charging Station
In-Reply-To: <mailman.861.1281244890.1002.oeva-list@oeva.org>
References: <mailman.861.1281244890.1002.oeva-list@oeva.org>
Message-ID: <00fc01cb36be$1c5bb750$551325f0$@com>

Good evening,

I wanted to invite OEVA members to the "ribbon cutting" of Beaverton's first
EV charging station. They are installing an OpConnect station at the
intersection of Hall and Third streets. A ceremony will occur 10:30 a.m.
Thursday, Aug. 12. Beaverton Mayor Denny Doyle will charge a Smart fortwo EV
on the station.

Level 1 charging is available for OEVA members. Level 2 charging is
available, but please email Wes Meyer at OpConnect (wmeyer at optechsw.com) to
ensure your vehicle's charging connectors will work on the unit.

Please email Nathan Isaacs if you have any questions. 


Sincerely,
Nathan Isaacs
nisaacs at opconnect.com





From carey at evergreenelectricvehicles.com  Sat Aug  7 22:55:57 2010
From: carey at evergreenelectricvehicles.com (Carey Dahlen)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:55:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Oregon Inventor Needs Your Votes!!!!
Message-ID: <527712.2670.qm@web1211.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

My Design has Nothing to do with Perpetual Motion or Over unity Devices. It is simply a new design for electro mechanical power generation. I am looking for Votes and support from Oregonians! I do not claim to be in?the same league as Thomas Edison! But where would we be without the radical designs by Nicola Tesla!! ??I am just looking for votes in this contest!? Eventually I want to produce my product in Oregon!! Below are my confirmation email and a link to my entry!? Thank You For Your Support! Please forward to your contacts. Voting Ends August 31st. Thank You!
?
?
?
"Dear Carey Dahlen,

Congratulations! Your entry "Three Dimensional Motor Generator System" has been qualified by the review team as meeting the requirements for the Create the Future Design Contest.

View your submission here:

http://contest.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/937

Voting on entries is now under way, so share this link with colleagues to build your page views and vote totals. The top ten entries receiving the most votes from site registrants will win a 3D computer mouse.

Good luck in the contest! Winners will be announced in September.

- Contest Administrators"

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From bowthom at comcast.net  Sun Aug  8 08:46:11 2010
From: bowthom at comcast.net (Don Thompson)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 08:46:11 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Future Purpose of the OEVA
Message-ID: <C8841F53.14E5%bowthom@comcast.net>

Hello,
There was a post some time ago musing about what the OEVA should be doing
now that "widespread EV use" was just around the corner. Seems to me you've
stumbled across it. The potential gouging of leaf customers over chargers
could seriously hamper their efforts for a smooth rollout. So the purpose is
being the watchdog of these situations that could seriously encumber
Nissan's hope for a painless customer experience and could doom widspread EV
adoption.

Don T




From chris at darkstarpro.com  Sun Aug  8 10:24:54 2010
From: chris at darkstarpro.com (Chris Arnesen)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 10:24:54 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Leaf Charger assessment EV range
In-Reply-To: <3990AF96-7A2B-44FE-ACA6-1CB1328137DC@comcast.net>
References: <20adc.71237a25.398f0547@aol.com>
	<3990AF96-7A2B-44FE-ACA6-1CB1328137DC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C5EE866.5030405@darkstarpro.com>

I think that before we start going too crazy about spreading rumors 
about this "waiver", we should wait until it exists. It doesn't make any 
sense that they would limit the warranty based on a preferred charging 
method, especially since 120 volt charging will actually be the 
"healthiest" method to keeping the battery in tip-top shape. With 240 
volt charging the battery will degrade even quicker.

The best option for us as a group is to research other EVSE 
manufacturers and work with local electricians to determine installation 
costs. Eventually maybe we can put together a list on the website of 
EVSE units and their respective costs along with a list of electricians 
that are willing to offer discounts to OEVA members?

Since the trick to J1772 charging is basically a 240 volt connection 
with a pilot signal to determine the amperage rate, it seems pretty 
trivial that eventually we'll see simple cords with a bit of electronics.

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

On 8/7/2010 6:36 PM, Dave Salzman wrote:
> Don,
> I was told by two dealers that if you don't go for AV's charge port 
> you must sign a waver voiding your 8 year 100,000 mile warranty  on 
> the battery pack. Still checking all this with Nissan tech support.
>
> Dave
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From: *Theoldcars at aol.com <mailto:Theoldcars at aol.com>
>> *Date: *August 7, 2010 11:51:51 AM PDT
>> *To: *oeva-list at oeva.org <mailto:oeva-list at oeva.org>
>> *Subject: **[Oeva-list] Leaf Charger assessment EV range*
>>
>> Dave
>> Not sure if I am reading the price list correct but it looks like 
>> 721.12 is for the charging station? I agree 300 to 400 dollars would 
>> be more in line with installing plus permit fees. As long as it is a 
>> simple installation.
>> I am considering buying the Leaf without a level two station. Soon 
>> there will be other companies selling charging stations since drivers 
>> are going to want portable units. Prices for the charge 
>> stations should drop or at least become available. Then you could 
>> shop for completive installation prices if one wants to hard wire it. 
>> I think the bill should be for about half of the $2457.85.
>> Its handy and fast but 240 volts is not required to drive electric. I 
>> charge with 240 but most of the day the charger and truck are not 
>> being used.
>> Estimating 3 miles gained with 120 charging per hour. You could 
>> charge up at least 40 miles of range at home with 120 volts. If you 
>> could pick up any additional 120 charging during the day it could be 
>> extended to 60 miles.
>> Also keep in mind if you start off Monday with 100 miles could be 
>> divided 20 miles to your work week. So you could go 60 miles a day as 
>> long as you can pick up 12 plus hours of charging with 120 volts 
>> on week days. This would be without any charging during 10 hours a day.
>> Charging by 120 is slow but for most people the vehicle is parked. 
>> Actual time driving is little compared to how long an EV has to 
>> recharge.
>> Range is going to vary a bit by driver and conditions.
>> Don
>> In a message dated 8/7/2010 1:43:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> oeva-list-request at oeva.org <mailto:oeva-list-request at oeva.org> writes:
>>
>>     Message: 4
>>     Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:47:33 -0700
>>     From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net
>>     <mailto:salzmande at comcast.net>>
>>     Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Charger assessment
>>     To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org <mailto:oeva-list at oeva.org>>
>>     Message-ID: <1BE62EC7-30EC-4E87-A14E-BBDF6861D909 at comcast.net
>>     <mailto:1BE62EC7-30EC-4E87-A14E-BBDF6861D909 at comcast.net>>
>>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>     Anne,
>>     I just don't believe in paying $2457.85 for $300.00 worth of work
>>     regardless of what Nissan says!
>>
>>     Dave
>>     >
>>     > i live in portland. i haven't found an electrician yet that
>>     goes for
>>     > under 100 bucks per hour. the price nissan laid out in the
>>     beginning
>>     > is close to the $2457.85 that you listed.
>>     >
>>     > Anne Perretta
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > From: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net
>>     <mailto:salzmande at comcast.net>>
>>     > To: Oeva list <oeva-list at oeva.org <mailto:oeva-list at oeva.org>>
>>     > Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 7:04:34 PM
>>     > Subject: [Oeva-list] Charger assessment
>>     >
>>     > Hey Folks,
>>     >
>>     > I recently had my home charger assessment and yesterday I
>>     received my
>>     > quote. Big surprise given the simple installation. My charger
>>     will be
>>     > mounted within 2 feet of the fuse panel and I was told the wire
>>     would
>>     > be surface mounted. There is room in the panel for the 40 amp
>>     240 volt
>>     > breaker.  The quote was,
>>     >
>>     > standard installation                      $1296.68
>>     > charging doc, wall mount 25' cable*      $721.12
>>     > custom installation                      $247.00
>>     > installation permit & processing            $80.00
>>     > shipping & delivery                        $49.95
>>     > sales tax                                $63.10
>>     > total                                    $2457.85
>>     >
>>     > My questions to AV and Nissan are;    #1 SALES TAX in Oregon?
>>     >                                     #2 custom installation for 3
>>     > feet of wire?
>>     >                                     #3 what is the charger doc
>>     price
>>     > with the standard 15 '
>>     > cord?
>>     >                                     #4 what are your hourly rates
>>     > for electricians?
>>     >
>>     > I live in St. Helens and the electrician is coming from Salem so
>>     > figure 2 hours travel time, 1 hour to do the job. $1296.68 for
>>     3 hours
>>     > work? The electricians here get from $50 to $85 an hour. There
>>     are a
>>     > couple in my neighborhood. I'm presently waiting for a call
>>     back from
>>     > AV to answer these questions. Nissan has asked me to fill out a
>>     survey
>>     > on the assessment & quote experience. I will wait for the answers
>>     > before I respond.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Stay Well,
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Dave
>>

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From bowthom at comcast.net  Sun Aug  8 13:29:57 2010
From: bowthom at comcast.net (Don Thompson)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:29:57 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] House Bill 3253
Message-ID: <C88461D5.FE4%bowthom@comcast.net>

Hello members,
I was just reading HB 3253 which has a new calculation for EV tax credit in
2010.
$2500 + $417 for each kWh of traction battery capacity above 4 kWh. May not
exceed $5000 per vehicle and / or the taxpayers tax liability.

Leaf = 24 - 4 = 20 kWh, 20 * $417 = $8350

Leaf qualifies for $5k Oregon tax credit

Trying to find out if this bill passed.

Don T




From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  8 16:07:16 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:07:16 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] House Bill 3253
In-Reply-To: <C88461D5.FE4%bowthom@comcast.net>
References: <C88461D5.FE4%bowthom@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRnpSzhayXf06umT9PCsKcVKydvVR2PoMdC2m1@mail.gmail.com>

It did not pass as originally written. As passed, there is a $1500 state tax
credit for plug-in vehicles. The credit amount is based on a the cost of the
plug-in vehicle over a similar ICE vehicle. There are also credits for the
alternative fueling station (aka charging station).

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Don Thompson <bowthom at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello members,
> I was just reading HB 3253 which has a new calculation for EV tax credit in
> 2010.
> $2500 + $417 for each kWh of traction battery capacity above 4 kWh. May not
> exceed $5000 per vehicle and / or the taxpayers tax liability.
>
> Leaf = 24 - 4 = 20 kWh, 20 * $417 = $8350
>
> Leaf qualifies for $5k Oregon tax credit
>
> Trying to find out if this bill passed.
>
> Don T
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From trevor at arcimoto.com  Sun Aug  8 16:43:04 2010
From: trevor at arcimoto.com (Trevor Steele)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:43:04 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] House Bill 3253
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinRnpSzhayXf06umT9PCsKcVKydvVR2PoMdC2m1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C88461D5.FE4%bowthom@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTinRnpSzhayXf06umT9PCsKcVKydvVR2PoMdC2m1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSL4mDfQEzhFiD_cDeFZOk+63fq=MpObOga5Sr@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

HB 3253 did not pass in any form in the 2009 legislative session.  It was
combined with another bill, and ultimately dropped before the legislature
adjourned.

It is important to remember that there are two types of EV tax credits in
Oregon: Business and Personal.
-  The business tax credit is housed in the Business Energy Tax Credit and
covers 35% of the cost difference between an electric vehicle and a gas
vehicle.  This applies to business, government, and non-profit fleet
purchases.
-  The personal tax credit is housed in the Residential Energy Tax Credit
and covers $1500 of the purchase price of an electric vehicle.  This credit
applies to consumers.

It is expected that there will be a number of issues related to electric
vehicles in the 2011 legislative session.  I am actively working with
companies throughout Oregon to address many of these.  If you have any
questions, please don't hesitate to get in touch with me.

Respectfully,

Trevor Steele
Director of Government Relations
Arcimoto LLC




On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:07 PM, <patrick0101 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It did not pass as originally written. As passed, there is a $1500 state
> tax credit for plug-in vehicles. The credit amount is based on a the cost of
> the plug-in vehicle over a similar ICE vehicle. There are also credits for
> the alternative fueling station (aka charging station).
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Don Thompson <bowthom at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello members,
>> I was just reading HB 3253 which has a new calculation for EV tax credit
>> in
>> 2010.
>> $2500 + $417 for each kWh of traction battery capacity above 4 kWh. May
>> not
>> exceed $5000 per vehicle and / or the taxpayers tax liability.
>>
>> Leaf = 24 - 4 = 20 kWh, 20 * $417 = $8350
>>
>> Leaf qualifies for $5k Oregon tax credit
>>
>> Trying to find out if this bill passed.
>>
>> Don T
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Oeva-list mailing list
>> Oeva-list at oeva.org
>> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>>
>
>
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From salzmande at comcast.net  Mon Aug  9 16:58:29 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:58:29 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: Leaf charger quote
References: <809CA926-6A90-4AE2-B37E-23324B6A1E36@nietc.org>
Message-ID: <AE7C9431-F7FA-4E12-8476-AB6AE95DD4D5@comcast.net>

Topher,
It is my understanding that Nissan has contracted with AeroVironment,  
the manufacture of the charging port, who then subcontracts the actual  
installation to local electrical contractors. The federal government  
will provide cash incentives for half of the cost up to $2200. Also  
some folks even receive a free charger based on your zip code. I have  
no idea how that is paid for or by whom. The folks that live in rural  
areas seem to have been excluded from that offer.
I for one appreciate your interest. That is why I'm responding here on  
the List so other club members are aware of the process. Still haven't  
heard back from Nissan or AeroVironment.
Thanks for your interest,


Dave

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Topher Edwards <tedwards at nietc.org>
> Date: August 9, 2010 8:30:31 AM PDT
> To: Dave Salzman <salzmande at comcast.net>
> Subject: Leaf charger quote
>
> I apologize if I am butting in Dan,
> I read your letter about the quote you received from Rite-Way  
> Electric and I was also a little surprised at the cost. I might have  
> missed this in your letters, but were you required to get a quote  
> from that particular business?
> I am especially interested because I teach electrical apprentices  
> and I would like to see that work being done on a competitive basis,  
> not through a closed agreement with Nissan or their dealers.
>
>
> Topher Edwards
> Instructor
> NECA IBEW Electrical Training Center
> 16021 NE Airport Way
> Portland, OR    97230
> 503-501-5056
> www.nietc.org
>
>
>
>
>

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From pusa411 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 00:27:36 2010
From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:27:36 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Leafy Charge
Message-ID: <AANLkTikm7xD_xQi_j3cLPFOB1uCmE=cMcAye0_X5VWYx@mail.gmail.com>

A lovely day in Portland

Nice cahrger, the Leaf was almost topped up before the press conference
because the dash charge lights where showing 2 blue with the third and final
flashing
I think the  charger cycled off in about 7 minutes.
The guys from Hughes, that installed this NEC with a TEPCO connector,
said she was 208V 200 Amps, making a 41.6 KW install..
 If they are 90% efficient then we're at 37.4 KW of charge per hour.
...

THX..
             Daniel T "Bubba" Conway

Premium-USA
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 07:23:43 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:23:43 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Leafy Charge
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikm7xD_xQi_j3cLPFOB1uCmE=cMcAye0_X5VWYx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikm7xD_xQi_j3cLPFOB1uCmE=cMcAye0_X5VWYx@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinaOQq9ZxBFL_u1okLxDp8jk8B8qGXco2VWt10F@mail.gmail.com>

CH?deMO <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH%CE%9BdeMO>
 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH%CE%9BdeMO>
Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:27 AM, PREMIUM-USA <pusa411 at gmail.com> wrote:

> TEPCO connector
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From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 09:18:26 2010
From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:18:26 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Leafy Charge
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaOQq9ZxBFL_u1okLxDp8jk8B8qGXco2VWt10F@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikm7xD_xQi_j3cLPFOB1uCmE=cMcAye0_X5VWYx@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaOQq9ZxBFL_u1okLxDp8jk8B8qGXco2VWt10F@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6v4nU=y9yfZcT2Rs7kejOdL-Y1-rUDxty1-pD@mail.gmail.com>

Same thing.  CHAdeMO was developed by Tokyo Electric Power Company  (TEPCO)

Jeff


On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:23 AM, <patrick0101 at gmail.com> wrote:

> CH?deMO <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH%CE%9BdeMO>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH%CE%9BdeMO>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:27 AM, PREMIUM-USA <pusa411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> TEPCO connector
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From phil.hochstetler at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 11:27:01 2010
From: phil.hochstetler at gmail.com (phil hochstetler)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:27:01 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Leaf Charger assessment EV range
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Don,

I think lots of folks could get by with 120v charging at home and use
the level 2 chargers on an occasional basis.
I noticed that the company Leviton is coming out with a variety of
J1772 based chargers including a portable one for level 1.
I did not see pricing but I bet this is far cheaper than $2400 (no
installation and portable).

See:  http://www.evrgreenchargers.com/Products.htm

--phil

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 11:51 AM,  <Theoldcars at aol.com> wrote:
> Dave
>
> Not sure if I am reading the price list correct but it looks like 721.12 is
> for the charging station? I agree 300 to 400 dollars would be more in line
> with installing plus permit fees. As long as it is a simple installation.
>
> I am considering buying the Leaf without a level two station. Soon there
> will be other companies selling charging stations since drivers are going to
> want portable units. Prices for the?charge stations?should drop or at least
> become available. Then you could shop?for?completive installation prices if
> one wants to hard wire it. I think the bill should be for about half of the
> $2457.85.
>
> Its handy and fast but 240 volts?is not required to drive electric. I charge
> with 240 but most of the?day the charger and truck are not being used.
>
> Estimating 3 miles gained with 120 charging?per hour. You could charge up at
> least 40 miles of range at home with 120 volts. If you could pick up any
> additional 120 charging?during the day it could be extended to 60 miles.
>
> Also keep in mind if you start off Monday with 100 miles?could be divided?20
> miles to your work week. So you could go 60 miles a day as long as you can
> pick up 12 plus hours of charging?with 120 volts on?week days. This would be
> without any charging during 10 hours a day.
>
> Charging by 120 is slow but for most people the vehicle is parked. Actual
> time driving is little compared to how long an EV has to recharge.
>
> Range is going to vary a bit by driver and conditions.
>
> Don



From phil.hochstetler at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 15:24:47 2010
From: phil.hochstetler at gmail.com (phil hochstetler)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:24:47 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Oeva-list Digest, Vol 82, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <446490.69065.qm@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.7.1281466806.48738.oeva-list@oeva.org>
	<446490.69065.qm@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Sorry, I was not clear.  The page lists a variety of chargers (level 1
and 2).  You are right the Leaf will come with a cord for 120v
charging (nothing extra required).  What I meant to say is that they
are are making chargers as well that *would* charge the Leaf at Level
2 rates and so you could opt for no level 2 charging at home when you
buy the Leaf, and then go with a third party level 2 charger (at a
much cheaper price) when the competition for chargers heats up and the
prices drop.
--phil

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Ray Blackburn <oeva_treas at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Phil, level one does not require a?in house charger for the leaf.? If this
> company builds level 1 they are?waisting there time as the?Leaf will plug
> into any household socket.? I am sure I am missing something as?I am fairly
> sure you already know this.
>



From gfifield at onlinenw.com  Tue Aug 10 20:37:23 2010
From: gfifield at onlinenw.com (gfifield at onlinenw.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:37:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Oeva-list Digest, Vol 82, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjmb0fqQR0Xd1c3UJt4J8FybfZhTYywYqN8h7i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.7.1281466806.48738.oeva-list@oeva.org>
	<446490.69065.qm@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <97da89ae362f2d6e2e845ef4bc6cc3c7.squirrel@mail.onlinenw.com>

I think I'm missing something here.

Why does this level II charger have to have an installation?
The Leaf will charge less than 30Amps.

Most electric stoves and dryers in your house are wired to 30 or 40 amp
breakers.

Why doesn't somebody build a "portable" level II charger that plugs into a
dryer outlet and provides the J1772 and software protocol? Why does there
have to be a "permanent" installation?

Gene

> Sorry, I was not clear.  The page lists a variety of chargers (level 1
> and 2).  You are right the Leaf will come with a cord for 120v
> charging (nothing extra required).  What I meant to say is that they
> are are making chargers as well that *would* charge the Leaf at Level
> 2 rates and so you could opt for no level 2 charging at home when you
> buy the Leaf, and then go with a third party level 2 charger (at a
> much cheaper price) when the competition for chargers heats up and the
> prices drop.
> --phil
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Ray Blackburn <oeva_treas at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> Phil, level one does not require a??in house charger for the leaf.?? If
>> this
>> company builds level 1 they are??waisting there time as the??Leaf will
>> plug
>> into any household socket.?? I am sure I am missing something as??I am
>> fairly
>> sure you already know this.
>>
>
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From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Wed Aug 11 16:25:18 2010
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:25:18 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Opconnect Beaverton Charging Station
Message-ID: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E182255C0@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>

republished from other sources
Thought this might be of interest.
The City of Beaverton unveils its very first public electric vehicle charging station tomorrow!
Donated by Beaverton business OpConnect<http://www.opconnect.com/welcome.aspx>, the station is located just off of Hall Blvd. on the west side of the Beaverton City Library.
 The unveiling event will be held at 10:30 a.m. at the charging station on Hall St. Stop by to listen, see the station and an electric vehicle from our local Smart Car dealership.
 Tomorrow afternoon between 1:00 and 3:00 p.m. you're invited to stop by and check out the Smart Car Electric Experience, a demo event at the front door of City Hall. Explore the all-electric car.
 Meanwhile, the City's commitment to sustainability is getting noticed. Just last week, Beaverton was named one of just 22 "Smarter Cities" across the U.S. for energy conservation by the Natural Resources Defense Council. Here's a link to the NRDC web site<http://smartercities.nrdc.org/articles/american-cities-get-smart-about-energy> for more information and Beaverton's profile<http://smartercities.nrdc.org/topic/energy/beaverton-or-2010-smarter-city-energy> or read about the recognition in the USA Today<http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/08/usas-greenest-cities/1> article.
 If you have questions or would like more information about any of the above, please call Cindy Tatham at (503) 526-2545 or Thomas Ebert at (503) 526-2665.

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 00:31:18 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:31:18 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Positions
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=u-sj2+dKOJ-55i2_bo+EkD99+LzrVuaAAfVsP@mail.gmail.com>

I have coordinated EV Awareness Day for the last two years. It is now time
for someone else to have a chance to run our biggest event. I am now
officially resigning from the position of EVAD Chairman. I am sure Ray will
be happy about this since I spent nearly every dime that we had :)

If you are interested in the position, please let John know (
john.p.christian at gmail.com).

Also, the board has agreed to create a Director of Social Media position. I
am currently acting in this role. If you are interested in this position,
also let John know. When we have elections, I plan on running for
the Director of Social Media position.

See you Thursday.

Regards,
Pat
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From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Thu Aug 12 07:46:15 2010
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Quick Charge Station Use and battery degradation
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On the quick charge debate:
Nissan says-
Monthly or 1/week no impact. Once per day EVERY day would be ~10% more gradual loss of capacity at 5 yrs. 

Mitsubishi says-
Qick Charging from 20-80% shouldn't have an impact on battery life as you aren't up at the really high voltages.

My note:
Please qualify these statements depending on where you live.  Quick charging in the desert, where your battery is already at high temperatures may limit your ability to quick charge to 80%.

Rick 


________________________________________________ 
Rick Durst | Portland General Electric
121 SW Salmon St, 3WTC0407 | Portland, Oregon 97204 | (: 503.464-7631 | 7: 503.464-2284 | *: Rick.Durst at pgn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 4:36 PM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Quick Charge Station

"Cross-country gas station use"?  It depends on where you live.  I was counting on Level 3 use every time I came into the city.  I'm 47 miles from
Powell's Books!   Now I think I'll install a Level 2 lash-up at my kid's on
Mt. Tabor and just stay a lot longer visiting the grand kids.  This could change our whole family dynamic!  For sure, it means I'll have to think twice about using Level 3 regularly when I drive in to volunteer at the VA on Pill Hill.  There goes that economical idea, unless they install a Level II in their parking garage.

   Nick Galaday
        Vernonia, OR 
            Energy conservation--
????                 saves more than energy!


Message: 2
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:08:55 -0700
From: Alan Batie <alan at batie.org>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Quick-Charge Station
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Message-ID: <4C5C4FB7.90605 at batie.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

On 8/6/10 8:48 AM, Josh Renoe wrote:
> I was told by a taxi cab fleet manager for radio cab in Portland that 
> Nissan told him that Nissan DOES NOT recommend you use L3 charging for 
> everyday use. Only use it for quick emergency charging as it 
> drastically reduces battery life. I guess we still need better 
> batteries before we can quickly "Charge and go".

It only makes sense for cross country "gas station" use; you don't need it otherwise.

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From paburkey at juno.com  Thu Aug 12 08:24:31 2010
From: paburkey at juno.com (paburkey at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:24:31 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Update on Upcoming Events in August, and meeting today!
Message-ID: <20100812.082519.995.32818@mailpop07.dca.untd.com>

Hi All,

Meeting today!
Updated of August events, and they below:
I looking for participation and people to bring their vehicles.

Thank you,
Paul Burkey
OEVA Ongoing Events Chair

Invitation to OEVA members to the "ribbon cutting" of Beaverton's first
EV charging station. They are installing an OpConnect station at the
intersection of Hall and Third streets. A ceremony will occur 10:30 a.m.
Thursday, Aug. 12. Beaverton Mayor Denny Doyle will charge a Smart fortwo
EV
on the station.

Canceled web page disabled, and the no event on Oaks Amusement Park web
page?
August 12-13-14: 
Green Show at Oaks Amusement Park in Portland.
 www.wampromotions.com

August 22: 
Lake Oswego EV Expo   
We have ShorePower, Ecotality (EV Project), Portland State, Ryno Motors,
Greenlite Motors, Kalkhoff E Bikes, and possibly more. 

August 27th - September 6th:
Oregon State Fair in Salem
Looking for the latest and greatest electric vehicles!
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From gary.graunke at intel.com  Thu Aug 12 10:40:21 2010
From: gary.graunke at intel.com (Graunke, Gary)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:40:21 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Positions
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=u-sj2+dKOJ-55i2_bo+EkD99+LzrVuaAAfVsP@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9662F248D13E8C45B097A77F005E9729B0FA34FF@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com>

First of all, I would like to thank Pat and others for taking EVAD from a purely educational event to a commercial event with real companies selling real EV products. Putting this event together has always been a challenge, and before sponsors it also drained our meager resources even at the non-profit rate. Pat, and before him Brad Hippert, put in a lot of effort that is not visible to the membership.

If there has been any disappointment lately, it has to be the lack of media coverage. This has always been hit or miss, depending on what other news is going on.  We have always had this as lowest priority compared to the critical logistics, but have been getting better. On the upside, there is still much to be gained by more efforts here.

One other thing we should consider is the relative value of our own event vs maintaining/improving our presence at other events. Paul Burkey has done a good job of getting us in many other events, and I have no doubt that we get more exposure in these events than at EVAD. I'm pretty excited about doing the state fair this month-we should make a special effort to maximize our impact there. It is a critical time where we need to make everyone in Oregon aware of the availability of the Nissan Leaf (and Chevy Volt in another year or so here), as well as the charging infrastructure that is being built out by the EV project and more locally by PGE.

The social media and website work that Pat and Phil have done is also a very cost-effective way of educating the public on the benefits of electric transportation.

I'll be happy to fill in the EVAD position if needed, but would like us to consider how to make it (or other events) more effective. Any marketing folks out there?

Gary

PS, I'll be taking sabbatical from Intel starting Aug 23 to Oct 17, and then retiring Jan 3. So I hope I will have more bandwidth (but less $) to work on these things.

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of patrick0101 at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:31 AM
To: OEVA; John Christian
Subject: [Oeva-list] Positions

I have coordinated EV Awareness Day for the last two years. It is now time for someone else to have a chance to run our biggest event. I am now officially resigning from the position of EVAD Chairman. I am sure Ray will be happy about this since I spent nearly every dime that we had :)

If you are interested in the position, please let John know (john.p.christian at gmail.com<mailto:john.p.christian at gmail.com>).

Also, the board has agreed to create a Director of Social Media position. I am currently acting in this role. If you are interested in this position, also let John know. When we have elections, I plan on running for the Director of Social Media position.

See you Thursday.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
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From matwete at comcast.net  Thu Aug 12 10:52:16 2010
From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:52:16 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Positions
In-Reply-To: <9662F248D13E8C45B097A77F005E9729B0FA34FF@orsmsx503.amr.corp.intel.com>
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Gary, you'll soon retire----you can stop using terms like "bandwidth"--- J

 

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of Graunke, Gary
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:40 AM
To: patrick0101 at gmail.com; OEVA; John Christian
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Positions

 

First of all, I would like to thank Pat and others for taking EVAD from a
purely educational event to a commercial event with real companies selling
real EV products. Putting this event together has always been a challenge,
and before sponsors it also drained our meager resources even at the
non-profit rate. Pat, and before him Brad Hippert, put in a lot of effort
that is not visible to the membership. 

 

If there has been any disappointment lately, it has to be the lack of media
coverage. This has always been hit or miss, depending on what other news is
going on.  We have always had this as lowest priority compared to the
critical logistics, but have been getting better. On the upside, there is
still much to be gained by more efforts here.

 

One other thing we should consider is the relative value of our own event vs
maintaining/improving our presence at other events. Paul Burkey has done a
good job of getting us in many other events, and I have no doubt that we get
more exposure in these events than at EVAD. I'm pretty excited about doing
the state fair this month-we should make a special effort to maximize our
impact there. It is a critical time where we need to make everyone in Oregon
aware of the availability of the Nissan Leaf (and Chevy Volt in another year
or so here), as well as the charging infrastructure that is being built out
by the EV project and more locally by PGE.

 

The social media and website work that Pat and Phil have done is also a very
cost-effective way of educating the public on the benefits of electric
transportation. 

 

I'll be happy to fill in the EVAD position if needed, but would like us to
consider how to make it (or other events) more effective. Any marketing
folks out there?

 

Gary

 

PS, I'll be taking sabbatical from Intel starting Aug 23 to Oct 17, and then
retiring Jan 3. So I hope I will have more bandwidth (but less $) to work on
these things.

 

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of patrick0101 at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:31 AM
To: OEVA; John Christian
Subject: [Oeva-list] Positions

 

I have coordinated EV Awareness Day for the last two years. It is now time
for someone else to have a chance to run our biggest event. I am now
officially resigning from the position of EVAD Chairman. I am sure Ray will
be happy about this since I spent nearly every dime that we had :) 

 

If you are interested in the position, please let John know
(john.p.christian at gmail.com).

 

Also, the board has agreed to create a Director of Social Media position. I
am currently acting in this role. If you are interested in this position,
also let John know. When we have elections, I plan on running for the
Director of Social Media position.

 

See you Thursday. 

 

Regards,
Pat
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From gary.graunke at intel.com  Thu Aug 12 10:57:20 2010
From: gary.graunke at intel.com (Graunke, Gary)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:57:20 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Positions
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Yes, that's why we need a marketing person who would have said "time" instead the engineering term "bandwidth".

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of Myles Twete
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:52 AM
To: 'OEVA'
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Positions

Gary, you'll soon retire----you can stop using terms like "bandwidth"--- :)

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of Graunke, Gary
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:40 AM
To: patrick0101 at gmail.com; OEVA; John Christian
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Positions

First of all, I would like to thank Pat and others for taking EVAD from a purely educational event to a commercial event with real companies selling real EV products. Putting this event together has always been a challenge, and before sponsors it also drained our meager resources even at the non-profit rate. Pat, and before him Brad Hippert, put in a lot of effort that is not visible to the membership.

If there has been any disappointment lately, it has to be the lack of media coverage. This has always been hit or miss, depending on what other news is going on.  We have always had this as lowest priority compared to the critical logistics, but have been getting better. On the upside, there is still much to be gained by more efforts here.

One other thing we should consider is the relative value of our own event vs maintaining/improving our presence at other events. Paul Burkey has done a good job of getting us in many other events, and I have no doubt that we get more exposure in these events than at EVAD. I'm pretty excited about doing the state fair this month-we should make a special effort to maximize our impact there. It is a critical time where we need to make everyone in Oregon aware of the availability of the Nissan Leaf (and Chevy Volt in another year or so here), as well as the charging infrastructure that is being built out by the EV project and more locally by PGE.

The social media and website work that Pat and Phil have done is also a very cost-effective way of educating the public on the benefits of electric transportation.

I'll be happy to fill in the EVAD position if needed, but would like us to consider how to make it (or other events) more effective. Any marketing folks out there?

Gary

PS, I'll be taking sabbatical from Intel starting Aug 23 to Oct 17, and then retiring Jan 3. So I hope I will have more bandwidth (but less $) to work on these things.

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of patrick0101 at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:31 AM
To: OEVA; John Christian
Subject: [Oeva-list] Positions

I have coordinated EV Awareness Day for the last two years. It is now time for someone else to have a chance to run our biggest event. I am now officially resigning from the position of EVAD Chairman. I am sure Ray will be happy about this since I spent nearly every dime that we had :)

If you are interested in the position, please let John know (john.p.christian at gmail.com<mailto:john.p.christian at gmail.com>).

Also, the board has agreed to create a Director of Social Media position. I am currently acting in this role. If you are interested in this position, also let John know. When we have elections, I plan on running for the Director of Social Media position.

See you Thursday.

Regards,
Pat
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 23:12:27 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:12:27 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Aug 2010 Meeting
Message-ID: <AANLkTinj2iLe5jmQqBOoXsSH7Uw3=z17Z_7iG6WbUPr-@mail.gmail.com>

Here are my notes from the meeting tonight.

OEVA Meeting 2010 Aug 8th


The new DC fast charging station was installed. Many of us went down into
the parking structure to look at it. There is also a small paddle inductive
station, 8 120V and 4 240V outlets in there. The 2011 PHEV Prius were there
charging along with PGEs PHEV Prius conversion and one of PSUs RAV4 EVs.


Two members of Best Buy's Brammo sales team were at the meeting with Brammo
Enertia bikes. Christopher spoke to the group (notes below).


Zero Race (international EV Worldwide Tour - http://www.zero-race.com/).
Will start on Aug 16th and will be coming through Oregon in November
(details as they get closer). We are looking for people to help with
lodging, charging, food?



Ray Blackburn treasurer report. We are still waiting for some of the
sponsorship money from EV Awareness Day (EVAD). We are back in the black. We
now have 501(c)(3) status. Donations and dues now may be tax deductible
(check with your tax advisor).



John Day or Bust ? Ray went to John Day OR in his electric Yaris for the
SolWest. Next year we are planning to have a large turnout of LEAFs,
Brammos, and others. We are hoping to make this caravan a media event.



Paul Burkey - Events report:

Lake Oswego event coming up August 22, we have plenty of room there for EVs.
There is charging there. Contact Paul for details.



The Oaks Park event is cancelled.


Oregon State Fair in Salem - August 27th - September 6th

We were just informed that they do not want OEVA members to have vehicles
there. The Fair coordinators are bringing in Oregon EV OEMs. We can have a
display and fliers.



Muddy Boot is Sept 11th ? We have a 10x10 booth. No display vehicles (maybe
the NMG since it is small). Gary and Paul are manning the booth.



John Christan ? We will be holding elections next month for both the
Awareness Day Chair and the new Director of Social Media positions. By-laws
as related to elections needs to be updated.



Christopher.Hertz at bestbuy.com from the Cascade Station Store (Jansen Beach
Store also has Brammo bikes), talked about the Enertia - $8K pre-incentives,
$6100 after. If you have the cycle endorsement on your license, you can do
test drive one anytime. Empulse (faster longer range Brammo) is coming in
mid 2011. Expected price point starting at $10K (3 versions expected
with varying range). Best Buy is selling plenty of Enertias. call
503.249.7130 ? They rode from the store, around town and still had 55% SOC
left when they arrived at the meeting.



Mike of www.ConvertMyCar.com just moved to Oregon from San Diego. He was
active in the EV club there and is now starting an EV conversion business.
Thinks Portland has the right demographics for EVs to be successful.
Portland has 17 hybrids per 1000, other parts of the country have 2 per 1000
or less. His plan is to convert cars for far less than the price of a new
EV. If you want to convert your own vehicle, you can use his garage space
and tool / machine shop for a reasonable arrangement. Mike is currently
driving a converted Suzuki Samurai EV  that he made for a total of $8000 in
total.  85MPH top speed.


Pictures from tonight's meeting will be posted on facebook soon.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oregon-Electric-Vehicle-Association/138510433019?ref=ts



Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
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From john.p.christian at intel.com  Fri Aug 13 09:08:51 2010
From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:08:51 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Aug 2010 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinj2iLe5jmQqBOoXsSH7Uw3=z17Z_7iG6WbUPr-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinj2iLe5jmQqBOoXsSH7Uw3=z17Z_7iG6WbUPr-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013713BAAC@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>

Thanks Patrick.

John P. Christian
OEVA Chair
* +1(503) 704-2155 -Mobile
P please consider the environment...

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of patrick0101 at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:12 PM
To: OEVA
Subject: [Oeva-list] Aug 2010 Meeting

Here are my notes from the meeting tonight.

OEVA Meeting 2010 Aug 8th

The new DC fast charging station was installed. Many of us went down into the parking structure to look at it. There is also a small paddle inductive station, 8 120V and 4 240V outlets in there. The 2011 PHEV Prius were there charging along with PGEs PHEV Prius conversion and one of PSUs RAV4 EVs.

Two members of Best Buy's Brammo sales team were at the meeting with Brammo Enertia bikes. Christopher spoke to the group (notes below).

Zero Race (international EV Worldwide Tour - http://www.zero-race.com/). Will start on Aug 16th and will be coming through Oregon in November (details as they get closer). We are looking for people to help with lodging, charging, food...

Ray Blackburn treasurer report. We are still waiting for some of the sponsorship money from EV Awareness Day (EVAD). We are back in the black. We now have 501(c)(3) status. Donations and dues now may be tax deductible (check with your tax advisor).

John Day or Bust - Ray went to John Day OR in his electric Yaris for the SolWest. Next year we are planning to have a large turnout of LEAFs, Brammos, and others. We are hoping to make this caravan a media event.

Paul Burkey - Events report:
Lake Oswego event coming up August 22, we have plenty of room there for EVs. There is charging there. Contact Paul for details.

The Oaks Park event is cancelled.

Oregon State Fair in Salem - August 27th - September 6th
We were just informed that they do not want OEVA members to have vehicles there. The Fair coordinators are bringing in Oregon EV OEMs. We can have a display and fliers.

Muddy Boot is Sept 11th - We have a 10x10 booth. No display vehicles (maybe the NMG since it is small). Gary and Paul are manning the booth.

John Christan - We will be holding elections next month for both the Awareness Day Chair and the new Director of Social Media positions. By-laws as related to elections needs to be updated.

Christopher.Hertz at bestbuy.com<mailto:Christopher.Hertz at bestbuy.com> from the Cascade Station Store (Jansen Beach Store also has Brammo bikes), talked about the Enertia - $8K pre-incentives, $6100 after. If you have the cycle endorsement on your license, you can do test drive one anytime. Empulse (faster longer range Brammo) is coming in mid 2011. Expected price point starting at $10K (3 versions expected with varying range). Best Buy is selling plenty of Enertias. call 503.249.7130 - They rode from the store, around town and still had 55% SOC left when they arrived at the meeting.

Mike of www.ConvertMyCar.com<http://www.ConvertMyCar.com> just moved to Oregon from San Diego. He was active in the EV club there and is now starting an EV conversion business. Thinks Portland has the right demographics for EVs to be successful. Portland has 17 hybrids per 1000, other parts of the country have 2 per 1000 or less. His plan is to convert cars for far less than the price of a new EV. If you want to convert your own vehicle, you can use his garage space and tool / machine shop for a reasonable arrangement. Mike is currently driving a converted Suzuki Samurai EV  that he made for a total of $8000 in total.  85MPH top speed.

Pictures from tonight's meeting will be posted on facebook soon.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oregon-Electric-Vehicle-Association/138510433019?ref=ts

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
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From john.p.christian at intel.com  Fri Aug 13 16:08:48 2010
From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:08:48 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Launching within Days plus Projected Zero-Race
	Scheduling
Message-ID: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE22201371AB0E1@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>

FYI

John P. Christian
OEVA Chair
* +1(503) 704-2155 -Mobile
P please consider the environment...

From: Jerry Asher [mailto:evisiona2z at usa.net]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:41 PM
To: Craig at AceTechnologies.net; Info.ZWheelZ at gmail.com; HAguardo at BenchmarkManagement.com; ACRanjel at stic.net; Christian, John P; Gary at WhiteCape.org; RickyGu at UBCECC.com; BChyplyk at Interchange.ubc.ca; Pres at VEVA.dhs.org; DonChandler at Shaw.ca; John at MotionElectric.CA; Gordon at GWInfo.net; Alan_C_EV at telus.net; Walter.Wardrop at NRC-CNRC.GC.CA; StevenSlough at comcast.net; WRowling at NVenture.com; EVExpert at Live.com; SJLee at HarborNet.com; ChicoEAA at yahoo.com; EV4UInc at yahoo.com; Tim.Hastrup at SureWest.net; GKuhnke at softcom.net; MWilliams at ARB.CA.gov; eSideHack at gmail.com; DonGillis at yahoo.com; Robb at PluginSupply.com; Chris_B_Jones at Prodigy.net; Richard at LightningMotorcycle.com; Electric.CarGuy at gmail.com; StanHanel at aol.com; Bill2K2000 at yahoo.com; RFurniss1 at cox.net; AJEV at earthlink.net; DTrujilloFreeStyle at yahoo.com; Jeff at LetsGreenAmerica.net; TyArmstrong at Live.com; Jon at GrassrootsEV.com; ASBENow at gmail.com; Elliott at PotentialDifference.com; SunPwrd at gmail.com; JStACk6 at juno.com; Voltek_2000 at yahoo.com; TBarlow at GreenMotorsInc.com; RickSuiter at yahoo.com; RushD at IronandWood.org; CCrowninshield at pagnet.org
Cc: Board at EAAEV.org; Roy at RoyPrince.com; Tom at TWDowling.com; BHammon1 at san.rr.com; CGarlow at FunRunintheSun.org; Louis.Palmer at Zero-Race.com; Julianna.Priskin at Zero-Race.com; EVisionA2Z at usa.net; EVJerry at gmail.com
Subject: Launching within Days plus Projected Zero-Race Scheduling


Cheers EVnthusiasts of Zero Race - ...and for Distro!

    Here's a general message to all the Regional Coordinating Team mates--just quickingly noting that within days Zero Race launches from Geneva, Switzerland, on 15 August 2010.  Check the www.Zero-Race.com<http://www.zero-race.com/> website, as able, for further "Fun, Travel & EVdventure" notices and updating.  See also below the projected Zero Race scheduling.  You'll soon be catching public announcements, if not already!

      Right now, Regional Coordinating Teams (BCTs) per Province/State are in motion.  Some already have Regional Coordinators (RCs) to captain/co-captain their regional efforts.  The RCs operating so far are: Vancouver EVA'rs  Ricky Gu for British Columbia; Tacoma EVA VP Tim Richey and President Bill Rowling; and Las Vegas EVA President Lloyd Reece and LVEVA'r Stan Hanel.  Except for Arizona and New Mexico, others have acting RCs until a meeting can be called, and an RC or Co-RCs selected!

    Soon, there should be communications stream-lined with 7 RCs interacting with your humble Coordinator-in-Chief for North America (CinC) and vice a versa. Interaction will be more efficient and expeditious that way.  Do keep in mind that the intention is for each RCT to determine the best routing per Province/State, then locating charging stations for 240-volt/30 Amps, setting up Media EVents, and seeking out lodging commodations, as able.  Plus whatever other brainstorming ensues (as it is!).

EVer in the Year of the Plug-ins...with Zero Race leading the World into 2011,

EVJerry   Z-R CinC for N. America  (202) 486-5450


August 15, 2010 Zero Emissions Race
from Geneva to Geneva through Europe, Asia, and North America
Around the World in 80 Days with 100% Electric Cars
Major North American stops and tentative dates are:
Vancouver, Canada

11/5

 Seattle, WA

11/5

Olympia, WA

11/6

 Portland, OR

11/6

Sacramento, CA

11/8

San Francisco, CA

11/9

 Los Angeles, CA

11/11

 Palm Springs, CA

11/11

 Las Vegas, NV

11/12

Phoenix, AZ

11/14

 Tucson, AZ

11/15

 Las Cruces, NM

11/16

 Austin, TX

11/17

San Antonio, TX

11/18

 Corpus Christi, TX

11/19

Tampico, Mexico

11/21

 Mexico City

11/23

Cancun, Mexico

11/28 to 12/10 World Climate Change Conference


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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 14 14:15:53 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:15:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ferries
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=LQTS=39M-t8BxcMTWbyyCvVxnNR2A60+iiWfk@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117

<http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117>This
article says the diesel-powered Buena Vista Ferry is being replaced with a
"larger electric ferry with significantly more hours of operation".

I assume this is diesel-electric rather than battery-electric. Does anyone
know for sure?

Regards,
Pat
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From gfifield at onlinenw.com  Sun Aug 15 10:05:00 2010
From: gfifield at onlinenw.com (gfifield at onlinenw.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:05:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ferries
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=LQTS=39M-t8BxcMTWbyyCvVxnNR2A60+iiWfk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=LQTS=39M-t8BxcMTWbyyCvVxnNR2A60+iiWfk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98c4828206a5f777616585983dda167b.squirrel@mail.onlinenw.com>

If you look at the Wheatland Ferry website there is sequence of pictures
(jerky movie?) that show the Wheatland Ferry crossing.
It has two wires going up to trolleys that look like electric connections.
I rode across that ferry once with a horse in a horse trailer.

http://www.wheatlandferry.com/index.shtml


> http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117
>
> <http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117>This
> article says the diesel-powered Buena Vista Ferry is being replaced with a
> "larger electric ferry with significantly more hours of operation".
>
> I assume this is diesel-electric rather than battery-electric. Does anyone
> know for sure?
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>




From gfifield at onlinenw.com  Sun Aug 15 10:15:31 2010
From: gfifield at onlinenw.com (gfifield at onlinenw.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:15:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ferries
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=LQTS=39M-t8BxcMTWbyyCvVxnNR2A60+iiWfk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=LQTS=39M-t8BxcMTWbyyCvVxnNR2A60+iiWfk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04f932ef506968d2f847e450692a19d7.squirrel@mail.onlinenw.com>

Oh it is an overhead electric conversion!

http://www.co.marion.or.us/PW/Administration/ferries/bvferryreplacement.htm

KATU did an "investigative" report on it last year:
http://www.katu.com/news/50906497.html?tab=video


> http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117
>
> <http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117>This
> article says the diesel-powered Buena Vista Ferry is being replaced with a
> "larger electric ferry with significantly more hours of operation".
>
> I assume this is diesel-electric rather than battery-electric. Does anyone
> know for sure?
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>




From alan at batie.org  Sun Aug 15 11:18:39 2010
From: alan at batie.org (Alan Batie)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:18:39 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ferries
In-Reply-To: <98c4828206a5f777616585983dda167b.squirrel@mail.onlinenw.com>
References: <AANLkTi=LQTS=39M-t8BxcMTWbyyCvVxnNR2A60+iiWfk@mail.gmail.com>
	<98c4828206a5f777616585983dda167b.squirrel@mail.onlinenw.com>
Message-ID: <4C682F7F.5070201@batie.org>

On 8/15/10 10:05 AM, gfifield at onlinenw.com wrote:
> If you look at the Wheatland Ferry website there is sequence of pictures
> (jerky movie?) that show the Wheatland Ferry crossing.
> It has two wires going up to trolleys that look like electric connections.

Yeah, both of those ferries are cable guided and have ties to shore ---
I would expect them to be grid tied rather than diesel/electric.  Though
a backup generator would probably be a good idea ;-)

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 15 11:25:18 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:25:18 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Reinventing Fire
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmRrNgsZqk8kC3y6JRM7QkYeayxeTxBroijMgL@mail.gmail.com>

 Rocky Mountain Institute's Amory B. Lovins on "Reinventing Fire":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H2jnmJ6ZEw

EVs are discussed a couple times in the video.

Regards,
Pat
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 15 10:46:12 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:46:12 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ferries
In-Reply-To: <04f932ef506968d2f847e450692a19d7.squirrel@mail.onlinenw.com>
References: <AANLkTi=LQTS=39M-t8BxcMTWbyyCvVxnNR2A60+iiWfk@mail.gmail.com>
	<04f932ef506968d2f847e450692a19d7.squirrel@mail.onlinenw.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi==1edoff=OH64BW_KFgOzv=r_jwSWq5NSeHwjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome. Thanks.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:15 AM, <gfifield at onlinenw.com> wrote:

> Oh it is an overhead electric conversion!
>
> http://www.co.marion.or.us/PW/Administration/ferries/bvferryreplacement.htm
>
> KATU did an "investigative" report on it last year:
> http://www.katu.com/news/50906497.html?tab=video
>
>
> >
> http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117
> >
> > <
> http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20100811/COMMUNITIES/8110343/1117
> >This
> > article says the diesel-powered Buena Vista Ferry is being replaced with
> a
> > "larger electric ferry with significantly more hours of operation".
> >
> > I assume this is diesel-electric rather than battery-electric. Does
> anyone
> > know for sure?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pat
> > Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
> > _______________________________________________
> > Oeva-list mailing list
> > Oeva-list at oeva.org
> > http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
> >
>
>
>
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From stevel at fern.com  Sun Aug 15 12:46:06 2010
From: stevel at fern.com (Steve's Account)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:46:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Electric Ferries.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1281898805.2434.oeva-list@oeva.org>
References: <mailman.9.1281898805.2434.oeva-list@oeva.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1008151244150.28686@hub.fern.com>

The Canby Ferry has been overhead electric for a number of years now..

It appears to be electro-hydraulic, with hydraulic motors providing
the thrust.

Steve


From nscale7 at aol.com  Wed Aug 18 18:27:12 2010
From: nscale7 at aol.com (nscale7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:27:12 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] Parts car - burned Zap Xebra sedan
Message-ID: <8CD0D54C87D465A-15E8-5B18@webmail-d066.sysops.aol.com>



For those of you looking for parts, there?s a Zap Xebra sedan in a Portland salvage yard that is up for auction. The car itself is badly burned, but it looks like the fire was largely confined to the passenger cabin, so the 72v motor, controller, DC-DC, some of the traction wiring, and other miscellaneous parts may have survived. You can inspect the car in person before bidding. Opening bid is $35, ends at noon on the 25th (next Wednesday).
 
Photos and online bidding here:
http://www.copart.com/c2/individualLot.html?lotId=15590450&searchType=onSaleNow
 
-Chase Ballew
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From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 23:32:00 2010
From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:32:00 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Contact Request from OEVA website
In-Reply-To: <201008200450.o7K4oKAu057396@agora.rdrop.com>
References: <201008200450.o7K4oKAu057396@agora.rdrop.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTU2uA-3kmJ=QaTTdawi1SPNyQCSsE13YDWWVF@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone in Rosburg or Albany help Chad?

Jeff
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:50 PM, <jeff.shorepower at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chad Schwitters (chadschwitters at hotmail.com) has sent you (office:
> chargingchair) the following feedback from the OEVA website:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm from Redmond, WA.  I'm trying to place a Tesla charging station or two
> in Oregon.  We've got a few in WA, and I know there's one going in at the
> World Trade Center in Portland.  CA has a bunch, including one in Yreka.
>
> If I could just place one in Roseburg, Teslas would be able to cruise the
> whole coast on nothing but HPCs.  Or maybe we could put one in Albany, and
> plan on using a 14-50 to charge overnight in Canyonville (7 Feathers RV Park
> looks good for that), but still have HPCs for any day stops.
>
> Anyway...do you have any members in Roseburg or Albany?  Or do you know of
> any plans for any Tesla chargers in Oregon?
>
> Thank you,
> Chad Schwitters
> Plug In America
>
> You can hit the reply button and it will go back to the sender.
>
> -------------------------------
> Remote Host: pool-108-3-31-179.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net
> Remote IP: 108.3.31.179
> User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0)
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From john.p.christian at intel.com  Fri Aug 20 09:40:41 2010
From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:40:41 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Zero Race - Plan for Oregon and Northern California
Message-ID: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE2220137375FD6@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>

Updates from the folks we are handing the Zero Race Team off to:

John P. Christian
OEVA Chair
* +1(503) 704-2155 -Mobile
P please consider the environment...

From: Chico Chapter - EAA [mailto:chicoeaa at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:31 PM
To: John P Christian; Christian, John P
Cc: Jerry Asher; GSEAA Info; Richard van Wyhe; Harold & Janet Zornig; Jerry Brandstatt
Subject: Zero Race - Plan for Oregon and Northern California

Hi John,

Here is what we (Chico Chapter EAA) are looking at as our part of the Zero Race support.  If we read the projected North America Run correctly, you will receive the race group from Seattle into Portland on Day 2.  After an overnight in Portland, they will travel to Medford on Day 3.  After an overnight in Medford, they will travel to Sacramento on Day 4.

Our part of this is to take the hand-off as they come over the mountains from Medford and deliver them to Sacramento.  Depending upon vehicle battery range and weather we think that this is reasonable.  If they start with a full charge from Medford, they should be able to climb over the mountains on I-5 and make it to the City of Shasta Lake just north of Redding where we will have a charging station and lunch.  We will also have a back-up charging station in Yreka.  The run from Shasta Lake through Chico to Sacramento should be easier because it is flat.  They can top-off in Chico if they need to.

The purpose of this e-mail is to confirm that they will staying over-night in Medford and starting in the morning with a full charge.  If this is not the case, please let us know because we will need to make a new plan.

Thank you very much for your help.

Sincerely,

Jerry Brandstatt, Chico Chapter President

530-343-0331 (Home Phone) Home e-mail shown above.


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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 11:50:15 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:50:15 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Zero Race - Plan for Oregon and Northern
	California
In-Reply-To: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE2220137375FD6@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
References: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE2220137375FD6@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVetTjM1nj+=Fi67MN_yvNb9auNTz_J3-TrH1d@mail.gmail.com>

Do you know when they will arrive in Oregon?

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Christian, John P <
john.p.christian at intel.com> wrote:

>  Updates from the folks we are handing the Zero Race Team off to:
>
>
>
> John P. Christian
>
> *OEVA Chair*
>
> *(** +1(503) 704-2155 -Mobile***
>
> *P** **please consider the environment?*
>
>
>
> *From:* Chico Chapter - EAA [mailto:chicoeaa at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:31 PM
> *To:* John P Christian; Christian, John P
> *Cc:* Jerry Asher; GSEAA Info; Richard van Wyhe; Harold & Janet Zornig;
> Jerry Brandstatt
> *Subject:* Zero Race - Plan for Oregon and Northern California
>
>
>
> Hi John,
>
>
>
> Here is what we (Chico Chapter EAA) are looking at as our part of the Zero
> Race support.  If we read the projected North America Run correctly, you
> will receive the race group from Seattle into Portland on Day 2.  After an
> overnight in Portland, they will travel to Medford on Day 3.  After an
> overnight in Medford, they will travel to Sacramento on Day 4.
>
>
>
> Our part of this is to take the hand-off as they come over the mountains
> from Medford and deliver them to Sacramento.  Depending upon vehicle battery
> range and weather we think that this is reasonable.  If they start with a
> full charge from Medford, they should be able to climb over the mountains on
> I-5 and make it to the City of Shasta Lake just north of Redding where we
> will have a charging station and lunch.  We will also have a back-up
> charging station in Yreka.  The run from Shasta Lake through Chico to
> Sacramento should be easier because it is flat.  They can top-off in Chico
> if they need to.
>
>
>
> The purpose of this e-mail is to confirm that they will staying over-night
> in Medford and starting in the morning with a full charge.  If this is not
> the case, please let us know because we will need to make a new plan.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Jerry Brandstatt, Chico Chapter President
>
>
>
> 530-343-0331 (Home Phone) Home e-mail shown above.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Oeva-list mailing list
> Oeva-list at oeva.org
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>
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From richard at hamje.net  Fri Aug 20 12:08:21 2010
From: richard at hamje.net (Richard Hamje)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:08:21 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Zero Race Support
Message-ID: <8BDA432DF6AA4839B601BE4609F4A1C3@RichardPC>

Hi all,

Do you need more charging spots in Portland for the Zero Race?  I have 240V 30Amp service in my driveway (solar powered) that a racer could use.  We might also be able to put them up for the night depending on the actual date.

Thanks,
Richard

Richard Hamje
822 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR  97215
503-805-8829
richard at hamje.net
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From gary at whitecape.org  Fri Aug 20 12:44:17 2010
From: gary at whitecape.org (Gary Graunke)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:44:17 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Zero Race - Plan for Oregon and
	Northern	California
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVetTjM1nj+=Fi67MN_yvNb9auNTz_J3-TrH1d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE2220137375FD6@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
	<AANLkTikVetTjM1nj+=Fi67MN_yvNb9auNTz_J3-TrH1d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C6EDB11.4030205@whitecape.org>

Not sure of the exact days yet, but it is the first week of November.

Gary

patrick0101 at gmail.com wrote:
> Do you know when they will arrive in Oregon?
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Christian, John P 
> <john.p.christian at intel.com <mailto:john.p.christian at intel.com>> wrote:
>
>     Updates from the folks we are handing the Zero Race Team off to:
>
>      
>
>     John P. Christian
>
>     */OEVA Chair/*
>
>     /(// +1(503) 704-2155 -Mobile///
>
>     *P** **please consider the environment?*
>
>      
>
>     *From:* Chico Chapter - EAA [mailto:chicoeaa at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:chicoeaa at yahoo.com>]
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:31 PM
>     *To:* John P Christian; Christian, John P
>     *Cc:* Jerry Asher; GSEAA Info; Richard van Wyhe; Harold & Janet
>     Zornig; Jerry Brandstatt
>     *Subject:* Zero Race - Plan for Oregon and Northern California
>
>      
>
>     Hi John,
>
>      
>
>     Here is what we (Chico Chapter EAA) are looking at as our part of
>     the Zero Race support.  If we read the projected North America Run
>     correctly, you will receive the race group from Seattle into
>     Portland on Day 2.  After an overnight in Portland, they will
>     travel to Medford on Day 3.  After an overnight in Medford, they
>     will travel to Sacramento on Day 4.
>
>      
>
>     Our part of this is to take the hand-off as they come over the
>     mountains from Medford and deliver them to Sacramento.  Depending
>     upon vehicle battery range and weather we think that this is
>     reasonable.  If they start with a full charge from Medford, they
>     should be able to climb over the mountains on I-5 and make it to
>     the City of Shasta Lake just north of Redding where we will have a
>     charging station and lunch.  We will also have a back-up charging
>     station in Yreka.  The run from Shasta Lake through Chico to
>     Sacramento should be easier because it is flat.  They can top-off
>     in Chico if they need to.
>
>      
>
>     The purpose of this e-mail is to confirm that they will staying
>     over-night in Medford and starting in the morning with a full
>     charge.  If this is not the case, please let us know because we
>     will need to make a new plan.
>
>      
>
>     Thank you very much for your help.
>
>      
>
>     Sincerely,
>
>      
>
>     Jerry Brandstatt, Chico Chapter President
>
>      
>
>     530-343-0331 (Home Phone) Home e-mail shown above.
>
>      
>
>      
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Oeva-list mailing list
>     Oeva-list at oeva.org <mailto:Oeva-list at oeva.org>
>     http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From john.p.christian at intel.com  Tue Aug 17 08:50:50 2010
From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:50:50 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Zero Race is Off & Running!
Message-ID: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013724F56C@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>

Zero Race news.

We need a project leader to step up and lead this effort to organize logistics for the Zero Race team as they pass through Oregon. Please let me know if you are interested.

Thank you,

John P. Christian
OEVA Chair
? +1(503) 704-2155 -Mobile
P please consider the environment?

From: Jerry Asher [mailto:evisiona2z at usa.net]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:44 PM
To: Craig at AceTechnologies.net; Info.ZWheelZ at gmail.com; HAguardo at BenchmarkManagement.com; ACRanjel at stic.net; Christian, John P; Gary at WhiteCape.org; RickyGu at UBCECC.com; BChyplyk at Interchange.ubc.ca; Pres at VEVA.dhs.org; DonChandler at Shaw.ca; John at MotionElectric.CA; Gordon at GWInfo.net; Alan_C_EV at telus.net; Walter.Wardrop at NRC-CNRC.GC.CA; StevenSlough at comcast.net; WRowling at NVenture.com; EVExpert at Live.com; SJLee at HarborNet.com; ChicoEAA at yahoo.com; EV4UInc at yahoo.com; Tim.Hastrup at SureWest.net; GKuhnke at softcom.net; MWilliams at ARB.CA.gov; eSideHack at gmail.com; DonGillis at yahoo.com; Robb at PluginSupply.com; Chris_B_Jones at Prodigy.net; Richard at LightningMotorcycle.com; Electric.CarGuy at gmail.com; StanHanel at aol.com; Bill2K2000 at yahoo.com; RFurniss1 at cox.net; AJEV at earthlink.net; DTrujilloFreeStyle at yahoo.com; Jeff at LetsGreenAmerica.net; TyArmstrong at Live.com; Jon at GrassrootsEV.com; ASBENow at gmail.com; Elliott at PotentialDifference.com; SunPwrd at gmail.com; Paul at PluginAmerica.org; RickSuiter at yahoo.com; JStACk6 at juno.com; Voltek_2000 at yahoo.com; RushD at IronandWood.org; Bob at Bookmans.com; CCrowninshield at pagnet.org; SunPwrd at gmail.com
Cc: Roy at RoyPrince.com; Tom at TWDowling.com; Louis.Palmer at Zero-Race.com; Julianna.Priskin at Zero-Race.com; BHammon1 at san.rr.com; CGarlow at FunRunintheSun.org; EVisionA2Z at usa.net; EVJerry at gmail.com
Subject: Zero Race is Off & Running!

[http://www.zero-race.com/media/tmp/catalogue/900-genevastart1_jpg_460x305_crop_q95.jpg]<http://www.zero-race.com/en/follow-zero-race-online/>
August 16th 2010
Zero Race has started

The first race for electric cars, around the world in 80 days, has started on August 16, 2010, 13:30, in the Palace of the United Nations, Geneva.
more<http://www.zero-race.com/en/follow-zero-race-online/>
[http://www.zero-race.com/media/tmp/catalogue/900-grimsel2_jpg_460x305_crop_q95.jpg]<http://www.zero-race.com/en/follow-zero-race-online/>
August 15th 2010
ZERO Race Prologue on the Grimsel Pass big Success

The ZERO Race teams raced together with 31 electric vehicles to the top of Grimselpass
more<http://www.zero-race.com/en/follow-zero-race-online/>
[http://www.zero-race.com/media/tmp/catalogue/900-genevastart3_jpg_460x305_crop_q95.jpg]<http://www.zero-race.com/en/follow-zero-race-online/>
August 16th 2010
30000 km in 80 days across 16 countries


A race for the future, and the future is green and innovative!
more<http://www.zero-race.com/en/follow-zero-race-online/>
THE ZERO RACE ADVENTURE - 80 DAYS AROUND THE WORLD WITH RENEWABLE ENERGIES

Jules Verne?s dream to go around the world in 80 days became a reality a long time ago, but is it possible to make a tour around the world in 80 days with emission-free vehicles? Five Teams from four

continents are taking up the challenge. On 16 August they will start with their electric vehicles on the longest and greenest race of all time: the ZERO Race.



Read more <http://www.zero-race.com/en/idea> [http://www.zero-race.com/media/tmp/catalogue/30-flash_jpg_15x15_crop_upscale_q95.jpg] <http://www.zero-race.com/en/idea>

[http://www.zero-race.com/media/tmp/catalogue/459-line___jpg_459x1_crop_upscale_q95.jpg]

THE ZERO RACE TOUR PLAN<http://www.zero-race.com/en/calendar>

WHERE ARE THE VEHICLES RIGHT NOW<http://www.zero-race.com/en/position/>?


------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:09:07 PM EDT
From: "Jerry Asher" <evisiona2z at usa.net>
To:
Cc:
Subject: Updating on the Zero Race RCTs plus UNEP Letter of Support, and Brief



[cid:embedcid1]


TO:

Alamo City EAA--Acting Regional Coordinating Team: President Craig Egan (248) 821-3899, VP Gary Krysztopik (210) 722-2927;
                              Secretary Hector Aguado (210) 683-5978; Treasurer Alfonzo Ranjel (210) 389-2339

Oregon EV---Acting RCT: President John Christian (503) 712-8147; Director Gary Graunke (503) 846-0133

Vancouver EVA--Vancouver Regional Coordinator, Ricky Gu (778) 388-0806; Acting RCT: President Vincent Law, Don Chandler (604) 307-1136
                            Director John Stonier (604) 671-4980; Webmaster Gordon Wong (604) 736-5157; Alan Cumberlidge (604) 657-4280;
                            Walter Wardrop (604) 666-6189

Seattle EVA--Acting RCT Members: President Steve Slough (206) 850-8535

      in conjunction with

Tacoma EVA--Designated Washington State RC: TacEVA VP Tim Ritchey (253) 831-1576; RCT Member: Stan Lee (253) 383-4371.
                         Note: Co-RC and TacEVA President Bill Rawling (253) 677-0205 may be the Zero-Race Pace Car driver.

Chico EAA:  Orchestrating RCT-Northern California: CEAA President, Jerry Brandstatt (530) 343-0331, and VP, Richard W. Van Wyhe
                        (530) 275-6800

Greater Sacramento EAA:  Acting RCT Members: GSEAA President, Tim Hastrup (916) 768-4646; Georg Kuhnke (916) 322-1731 (also Tesla
                        Owners Liaison); Mark Williams (916) 327-5610

San Francisco Bay Area: RCT-in-the-making: San Jose EAA Secretary, Terry Wilson (408) 446-9357; SJEAA Treasurer, Don Gillis
                        (408) 857-0391; North Bay EAA President Chris Jones (707) 577-2391; Robb Protheroe of PluginSupply (707) 849-2422;
                        Richard Hatfield of Lightning Motorcycles (650) 513-1658; President & CEO Margo Leathers Sidener of BREATHE California
                        (408) 998-5865; Local Secretary Francesca Guido of San Francisco Regional Mensa (650) 340-8979

Las Vegas EVA:  LVEVA President/Board/Members acting as RCT-Las Vegas:  LVEVA President Lloyd Reece (702) 524-3233;
                       Stan Hanel (702) 405-0506; Bill Kuehl (702) 636-0304; Richard Furniss (702) 453-6196; Jan Himber (702) 645-2132;
                       Dan Trujillo; Jeff Wilson (702) 352-8880; Tyrone Armstrong (702) 491-8426;
                       Jon Hollquist (702) 277-7544; Lou Baker (702) 469-1284; Elliott Small (702) 576-1717

EVA of Southern California and PluginAmerica: Orchestrating the RCT-Southern California--EVAoSC President, PluginAmerica VP Paul Scott
                        (310) 403-1303




Cheers Zero Race Regional Coordinating Team EVnthusiasts, One & All -


    First, let's welcome aboard the new Zero Race Enthusiasts from Chico EAA, Greater Sacrament EAA, RCT-in-the-making for San Francisco Bay Area, Las Vegas EVA, and EVA of Southern California.  It's all part of the effort in connecting the dots for Zero Race in North America so to speak for the November run from Vancouver, BC to San Antonio, TX.

    See the attached United Nations Letter of Support for Zero Race per Louis Palmer's email below.  This item as forwarded by Louis Palmer will be coming to you shortly and it's for your particular RCT purposes, as you see fit.

    Also, there's a brief below for your review below regarding the Regional Coordinating Teams.

EVer in the Year of the Plug-ins...with Zero Race leading the World into 2011,

EVJerry   Zero Race Coordinator-in-Chief for North America   (202) 486-5450



BRIEF for Zero Race in North America:

    This is an invitation for EAA Members and EVnthusiasts, one and all, to get on-board and participate in the first ever Zero Race around the World.  EAA members are being considered as the foremost team players to set up with Regional Coordinating Teams (RCTs).  We still are developing the RCT network, now with really only Arizona and New Mexico to go!

     Essentially, a RCT with its Regional Coordinator (RC) would be leading the "boots on the ground" team effort for determining the best routing as well as locating charging 240-volt stations, setting up for media coverage, and seeking out lodging, as able,...handing off from one RCT from another all the way from Vancouver, British Columbia all the way to San Antonio, Texas...until handing off to a yet-to-be designated Mexico EVent Planner and Mexican RCT from Matamoros to Cancun.  This should be all in line with Fun, Travel, and Adventure for us all.

    Take a moment and review the www.Zero-Race.com<http://www.zero-race.com/> website as you're able in order to stay updated.  Especially with the Zero Race launching off Geneva, Switzerland, which is fast approaching on 15 August 2010.

EVer in the Year of the Plug-ins...with Zero Race leading the World into 2011,
J. "EVJerry" Asher  Zero Race Coordinator-in-Chief for North America   (202) 486-5450


3009 N. Gaia Place
Tucson, Arizona  85745





------ Original Message ------
Received: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:30:16 AM EDT
From: Louis Palmer <louis.palmer at zero-race.com>
To: Verborgene_Empfaenger:;
Subject: UNEP letter of support

Dear all,

I am sending you this letter of support from Achim Steiner, Executive Director of UNEP.  May be this could help you.

Kind regards,

Louis




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From john.p.christian at intel.com  Fri Aug 20 15:04:01 2010
From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:04:01 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] FW: Checking Out the Excitement of the Zero Race plus
 Attachment: Press Release from 16 August 2010
Message-ID: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE22201373CF0D9@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>

Press coverage for Zero Race below:

John P. Christian
OEVA Chair
? +1(503) 704-2155 -Mobile
P please consider the environment?

From: Jerry Asher [mailto:evisiona2z at usa.net]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:37 PM
To: Craig at AceTechnologies.net; Info.ZWheelZ at gmail.com; HAguardo at BenchmarkManagement.com; ACRanjel at stic.net; Christian, John P; Gary at WhiteCape.org; RickyGu at UBCECC.com; BChyplyk at Interchange.ubc.ca; Pres at VEVA.dhs.org; DonChandler at Shaw.ca; John at MotionElectric.CA; Gordon at GWInfo.net; Alan_C_EV at telus.net; Walter.Wardrop at NRC-CNRC.GC.CA; StevenSlough at comcast.net; WRowling at NVenture.com; EVExpert at Live.com; SJLee at HarborNet.com; ChicoEAA at yahoo.com; EV4UInc at yahoo.com; Tim.Hastrup at SureWest.net; GKuhnke at softcom.net; MWilliams at ARB.CA.gov; eSideHack at gmail.com; DonGillis at yahoo.com; Robb at PluginSupply.com; Chris_B_Jones at Prodigy.net; Richard at LightningMotorcycle.com; Electric.CarGuy at gmail.com; StanHanel at aol.com; Bill2K2000 at yahoo.com; RFurniss1 at cox.net; AJEV at earthlink.net; DTrujilloFreeStyle at yahoo.com; Jeff at LetsGreenAmerica.net; TyArmstrong at Live.com; Jon at GrassrootsEV.com; ASBENow at gmail.com; Elliott at PotentialDifference.com; SunPwrd at gmail.com; RickSuiter at yahoo.com; JStACk6 at juno.com; Voltek_2000 at yahoo.com; TBarlow at GreenMotorsInc.com; RushD at IronandWood.org; CCrowninshield at pagnet.org; Bob at Bookmans.com
Cc: Board at EAAEV.org; Roy at RoyPrince.com; Tom at TWDowling.com; Louis.Palmer at Zero-Race.com; Julianna.Priskin at Zero-Race.com; BHammon1 at san.rr.com; TrahanJ at Amtrak.com; AOrchison at Amtrak.com; EVisionA2Z at usa.net; EVJerry at gmail.com
Subject: Checking Out the Excitment of the Zero Race plus Attachment: Press Release from 16 August 2010

Cheers Zero Race Regional Coordinator Teams in place from Vancouver to Texas,
     Please take some moments for checking out the excitment of the Zero Race and the unfolding EVents.  Watch your EVnthusiasm start growing, just like mine is doing in following this World EVent.  We can now start counting the days until November and Zero Race's arrival in Vancouver, BC
     Included below are some 'copying & pasting' items from www.Zero-Race.com<http://www.Zero-Race.com>. In particular, there are the pixs below. Do note the International Media coverage in story so far such as the Associated Press, Bloomberg TV and BBC.  This information is especially for those of you who are the leading the Regional Coordinating Teams by Province/State and as acting or the Regional Coordinator (RCs).  This includes a Zero Race Press Release off the Zero Race website.  See below and as an attachment.
EVer in the Year of the Plug-ins...with Zero Race leading the World into 2011,
J. "EVJerry" Asher  Zero Race EVent Planner for North America    (202) 486-5450
[http://attachments.postoffice.net/tpl/Attachment/623RWQRUU/X?Q=477oHigNG9120M1136&O=27409&downloadid=DBBA]he
  Our HOME<http://www.zero-race.com/en/>
?

    *   around the world in 80 daysaround the world in 80 days<http://www.zero-race.com/en/idea/>
    *   competitioncompetition<http://www.zero-race.com/en/competition/>
    *   patronagepatronage<http://www.zero-race.com/en/patronage/>
    *   biodiversitybiodiversity<http://www.zero-race.com/en/bio/>
    *   Powered By Renewable EnergiesPowered By Renewable Energies<http://www.zero-race.com/en/renewable/>
    *   EventGreen <http://www.zero-race.com/en/green/>
    *   Introduction by Louis PalmerIntroduction by Louis Palmer<http://www.zero-race.com/en/louis/>
    *   pioneerspioneers<http://www.zero-race.com/en/people/>
    *   Louis PalmerLouis Palmer<http://www.zero-race.com/en/louis-bio/>
    *   calendarcalendar<http://www.zero-race.com/en/calendar/>
    *   positionWhere are the teams?<http://www.zero-race.com/en/position/>
    *   Letter of Support from Achim Steinerletter of support from Achim Steiner<http://www.zero-race.com/en/letter/>

 *   FirstRace<http://www.zero-race.com/en/race/>
 *   WorldRoute<http://www.zero-race.com/en/route/>
 *   DrivingTeams<http://www.zero-race.com/en/teams/>
 *   OrganisingTeam<http://www.zero-race.com/en/organisors/>
 *   GreenEvent<http://www.zero-race.com/en/sustainability/>
 *   Follow theAdventure<http://www.zero-race.com/en/follow-zero-race-online/>
 *   Press andMedia<http://www.zero-race.com/en/press/>

 *   Feel free toContact<http://www.zero-race.com/en/contact/>
Zero Emissions race<http://www.zero-race.com/en/>
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AFP<http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j21xlDa5RWMdzZsPEkJoVCVwMNcg> (August 16, 2010)

BBC World<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10991491> (August 16, 2010)

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Shanghai Daily<http://www.shanghaidaily.com/gallery/photo.asp?article_id=446492> (August 16, 2010)

 Associated Press<http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_SWITZERLAND_ZERO_EMISSIONS_RACE?SITE=WJARTV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT> (August 11, 2010).

Neue Luzerner Zeitung<http://www.zisch.ch/navigation/top_main_nav/nachrichten/zentralschweiz/detail.htm?client_request_className=NewsItem&client_request_contentOID=339612> (August 9, 2010)





ZERO RACE PRESS RELEASE

ZERO Race - Around the World in 80 days with Zero Emission Vehicles!

Geneva, August 16, 2010.

Jules Verne?s dream to go around the world in 80 days became a reality a long time ago, but is it possible to make a tour around the world in 80 days with emission-free vehicles? Four Teams from three continents have taken up the challenge. On 16 August they have started in the United Nations Palace in Geneva with their electric cars on the longest and greenest race of all time: the ZERO Race. The race is organised by Louis Palmer, the first man to drive a solar powered vehicle around the world. Now the Swiss solar pioneer is starting an even bigger challenge.

In 2008, Mr. Palmer, the winner of the European Solar Prize, made headlines worldwide with his "Solartaxi", when the 38-year old solar pioneer drove across 38 countries and covered more than 54,000 kilometers in 18 months in a car powered by solar energy. The trip raised awareness about renewable energy and climate change to more than 770 million people worldwide. Now Mr. Palmer is initiating the first emission-free race around the world and has caught the interest of companies, governments and environmental pioneers.

Start on 16 August 2010

The start of the ZERO Race happened in the United Nations Palace in Geneva.

The four participants from four continents are:

? Australia: Team TREV

? Switzerland: Team Zerotracer

? Germany: Team Vectrix

? South Korea: Team Powerplaza

All teams have developed a new hi-tech electric vehicle especially for the ZERO Race. The Race is going to be a competition for the latest electric vehicle technology. "With this race we want to show, that seven billion people on this planet need renewable energy and clean mobility", says Louis Palmer. "Petrol is running out, and the climate crisis is coming? and we are all in running against time."

Vehicles must be practical for every day life

The ZERO Race is not only about speed, but also about other judgment criteria that include reliability, energy efficiency, utility to every day life, design and safety. Each team is obliged to power their vehicle by renewable energy, by feeding electricity into the grid in their home country from sources such as solar, wind or others.

Start with a Tour d?Europe

After the start in Geneva, the ZERO Race will cross Switzerland, where interested spectators can admire their vehicles. The way leads to Brussels, Berlin, Vienna, Moscow and Shanghai. The cars will then travel by ship to Vancouver, and from there onward continue along the west coast of North America all the way to Cancun, Mexico, where they will be put on show at the United Nations Climate Conference to inspire the world leaders to take action.

In December, the vehicles will be shipped again to Portugal, and traverse southwest Europe to complete the final leg of the global journey. After 80 days of travel time en route, 30,000 kilometres through 16 countries and 150 city stopovers for press events, the ZERO Race will be completed at the end of January in 2011, in Geneva, Switzerland.

The ZERO Race is a "green" event all the way, and any unavoidable greenhouse gas emissions it may create, including the shipping of cars and flights by participants, will be compensated by investments into renewable energy projects through myclimate.

Realistic way towards the future

"The success of ZERO Race depends on the number of people reached and inspired enough to take action towards a more sustainable way of life," adds Louis Palmer. "Growing traffic and environmental pollution are situations that are just asking for solutions. The ZERO Race

is very much about showing realistic ways towards a cleaner and greener future for the planet and its people." PRESS RELEASE

SOME KEY EVENTS ACROSS EUROPE

16. August 2010 ZERO RACE START. Geneva, Place des Nations, 13:30 PM.

21. August 2010 Brussels, Autoworld du Cinquantenaire, 14:30 ? 18:00 PM

25. August 2010 Berlin, Swiss Embassy, 10:00 ? 11:30 AM

28. August 2010 Vienna, Parliament, 10:30 AM

ZERO RACE ONLINE at www.zero-race.com

The entire ZERO Race will be documented with stories, photos and videos on a daily blog.

For donwloading hi res photos go to http://zero-race.com/en/press/

Join the Community-Platform for more daily updates about the race.

For more information contact Louis Palmer, Tour Director


louis.palmer at zero-race.com

Mobile: +41 79 343 88 01





J."EVJerry" Asher
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Tucson, Arizona  85745
Bisbee Home: (520) 432-3227 - Home
Cell: (202) 486-5450 - Best




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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 16:02:59 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:02:59 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ford kicks off electric vehicle tour at PSU
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMV3tgmR1+=20kQfp960igM+N5H7Jkk4EZ3Hzo@mail.gmail.com>

http://sustainablebusinessoregon.com/articles/2010/08/ford_kicks_off_electric_vehicle_tour_at_psu.html

Ford Motor Company and its electric vehicle tour is motoring into Portland
on Aug. 24. The event takes place at Portland State University and will
include a panel discussion and test drives of the Ford Focus electric
plug-in, Ford Escape Hybrid plug-in and Fusion Hybrid.

Mike Tinskey, Ford's manager of sustainability activities focused on
electric vehicles and infrastructure, will lead a round table discussion on
the latest EV technology, infrastructure needs and consumer education.
Representatives from Portland General Electric, Microsoft Corp., Coulomb
Technologies and PSU will also be on hand to discuss the current EV
landscape and what it means for Oregon and Southwest Washington.

Test drives will follow the presentation.

The panel discussion will be held between noon and 1:30 p.m., followed by
vehicle demonstrations and test drives between 1:30 and 3:00 p.m..

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
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From gary at greenlivingjournal.com  Fri Aug 20 18:37:04 2010
From: gary at greenlivingjournal.com (Gary Munkhoff)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:37:04 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ford kicks off electric vehicle tour at PSU
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMV3tgmR1+=20kQfp960igM+N5H7Jkk4EZ3Hzo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikMV3tgmR1+=20kQfp960igM+N5H7Jkk4EZ3Hzo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C6F2DC0.9030403@greenlivingjournal.com>

Is this open to the public?

Gary

Don't Buy - Don't Drill





patrick0101 at gmail.com wrote:
> http://sustainablebusinessoregon.com/articles/2010/08/ford_kicks_off_electric_vehicle_tour_at_psu.html
>
> Ford Motor Company and its electric vehicle tour is motoring into 
> Portland on Aug. 24. The event takes place at Portland State 
> University and will include a panel discussion and test drives of the 
> Ford Focus electric plug-in, Ford Escape Hybrid plug-in and Fusion Hybrid.
>
> Mike Tinskey, Ford's manager of sustainability activities focused on 
> electric vehicles and infrastructure, will lead a round table 
> discussion on the latest EV technology, infrastructure needs and 
> consumer education. Representatives from Portland General Electric, 
> Microsoft Corp., Coulomb Technologies and PSU will also be on hand to 
> discuss the current EV landscape and what it means for Oregon and 
> Southwest Washington.
>
> Test drives will follow the presentation.
>
> The panel discussion will be held between noon and 1:30 p.m., followed 
> by vehicle demonstrations and test drives between 1:30 and 3:00 p.m..
>
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------



From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Mon Aug 23 08:04:53 2010
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:04:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ford kicks off electric vehicle tour at PSU
Message-ID: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E195AE156@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>

This event is not open to the public, however, if you send an e-mail to George Beard at. Gbeard at pdx.edu by 4pm today. He might only get a few openings, so send a note soon.

Rick Durst
Rick Durst, Program Manager
Portland General Electric
Energy Information Services and Electric Vehicles
503-464-7631 phone
503-464-2284 fax

________________________________
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org <oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org>
To: OEVA <oeva-list at oeva.org>
Sent: Fri Aug 20 16:02:59 2010
Subject: [Oeva-list] Ford kicks off electric vehicle tour at PSU

http://sustainablebusinessoregon.com/articles/2010/08/ford_kicks_off_electric_vehicle_tour_at_psu.html


Ford Motor Company and its electric vehicle tour is motoring into Portland on Aug. 24. The event takes place at Portland State University and will include a panel discussion and test drives of the Ford Focus electric plug-in, Ford Escape Hybrid plug-in and Fusion Hybrid.

Mike Tinskey, Ford's manager of sustainability activities focused on electric vehicles and infrastructure, will lead a round table discussion on the latest EV technology, infrastructure needs and consumer education. Representatives from Portland General Electric, Microsoft Corp., Coulomb Technologies and PSU will also be on hand to discuss the current EV landscape and what it means for Oregon and Southwest Washington.

Test drives will follow the presentation.

The panel discussion will be held between noon and 1:30 p.m., followed by vehicle demonstrations and test drives between 1:30 and 3:00 p.m..

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
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From j at flickfx.com  Mon Aug 23 00:29:05 2010
From: j at flickfx.com (J Bills)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:29:05 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] on CNN: KC high school electric car gets 450mpg
	equivalent
Message-ID: <AANLkTimp1CX80=a5E2g20wg5TCd=zmGkvS9pH1btTnGT@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/08/22/dnt.mo.electric.car.cnn?hpt=T2
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 24 10:08:49 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:08:49 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: Test Drive the Tesla Roadster in Portland on
	Sunday, August 29th
In-Reply-To: <4541eaab-90bc-406c-a47a-22321d8b0d5e@xtnvmta201.xt.local>
References: <4541eaab-90bc-406c-a47a-22321d8b0d5e@xtnvmta201.xt.local>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZj1j75xOQ6uksgnrsKjXdy3TeT2NYnAk_sQnm@mail.gmail.com>

I took a drive last time they came to town. It was fun!

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


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From paburkey at juno.com  Tue Aug 24 20:50:50 2010
From: paburkey at juno.com (paburkey at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:50:50 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Eaton - Wilsonville is having an open house!
Message-ID: <20100824.205552.26198.330868@mailpop02.dca.untd.com>

Eaton - Wilsonville is having an open house to show off our Electric
Charging Vehicle Stations and the mitsubishi Imev.  
I would like to get as many in the industry to come see what we have.  
This product was featured in Motor Trend and other top magazines in the
past 6 months.  
We have the bandwidth around the world to make this happen, and just
wanted to invite you to come see what we have and give feedback.  
Thursday Aug 26th from 10AM - 5PM - 26850 SW Kinsman Rd, Wilsonville.
Paul Burkey,
OEVA Ongoing Events Chair
____________________________________________________________
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Insurance deal just passed now allows you to get car insurance for $13
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From jbillsnews at flickfx.com  Fri Aug 27 15:52:02 2010
From: jbillsnews at flickfx.com (J Bills)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:52:02 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Revolt announces plans to develop EV batteries in
	Portland
Message-ID: <AANLkTimy4z3PRHu6O11xyPGPU=diUgYzKvDqh7zckJuZ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/08/revolt_announces_plans_to_deve.html
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From matwete at comcast.net  Sun Aug 29 11:13:05 2010
From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:13:05 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Battery exchange stations----nothing new under the sun
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMV3tgmR1+=20kQfp960igM+N5H7Jkk4EZ3Hzo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikMV3tgmR1+=20kQfp960igM+N5H7Jkk4EZ3Hzo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014a01cb47a5$d49bb020$7dd31060$@net>

Should EV car manufacturers and charging networks decide that the best quick
recharge is with battery exchange, it will not be a first.

In 1917, Milburn had several stations in Chicago that would replace the
battery packs (on wheels) and claimed to complete an exchange within 2 ?
minutes.

 

http://tinyurl.com/2dflga9 or

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=xK0vAAAAYAAJ
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-Myles Twete

1920 Milburn Light Electric: www.evalbum.com/348

 

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 29 18:16:07 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:16:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Tesla in Portland
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9Hj4NeLoGr8wRZS1c7m+EsPoGdYFmpUgynb=i@mail.gmail.com>

Did anyone go test drive the Roadster this weekend?

Regards,
Pat
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From richard at hamje.net  Mon Aug 30 14:07:50 2010
From: richard at hamje.net (Richard Hamje)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:07:50 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Belmost Street Fair?
Message-ID: <2D230917E3C64B9B97E5615BF0A8A4BE@RichardPC>

Hello all,

The Belmont Street Fair is Dept 12 and is themed "LocalMotion".  The ad I saw indicated there will be an alternate transportation display.  I believe that OEVA was at this event last year.  I'd be happy to bring my EV if we've been invited for this year.  Does anyone know if we're invited?

Thanks,
Richard

Richard Hamje
822 SE 45th Avenue
Portland, OR  97215
503-805-8829
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From jon at photodad.com  Tue Aug 31 20:59:25 2010
From: jon at photodad.com (Jon Balgley)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:59:25 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Mazda RX-7 project car available again! $2500
Message-ID: <AANLkTiniyEG=np0Pf75+gt1Ee4qs5Kv_4eBXWcvraJEd@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it's true!  If you kicked yourself for missing the chance when this
beauty came on the market about two months ago, you have another chance!
Why?  Because I am buying another red electric RX-7 that is already
working!  And my wife says I can't have two!

Here's the scoop:

This is a 1984 Mazda RX-7 GSL (not SE) converted in the late '90s to
electric.  Apparently professionally converted.  Original owner now has
age-related dementia, and so cannot provide more information.  The story I
have from her son: it ran great for a while (2 years?) and then they had "a
problem with the controller" that they could not resolve.  So, in 2001, it
was parked in a garage and never moved again ... until this past June when I
bought it.

What it has:
* Beautiful exterior and interior  ... far better than my '06 Honda Civic
Si!
* 24 buddy pairs of Optima Yellow Top 55ah batteries, plus another one as
the aux battery (all of these are dead)
* Older charger, with "Rudman Regulators" ... the aux battery is charged as
well, I think.
* Auburn Scientific controller (assumed to be dead)
* ADC FB-4001 motor
* Appears to be stock transmission, no clutch
* Some kind of instrumentation
* Emergency-off cabled to "Choke" (!)
* Power brakes
* 12V accessories appear to work: lights, windows, radio antenna, wiper,
etc.  No guarantee, though, you'll have to check it out yourself.
* Excellent mechanical battery-mounts
* Excellent wiring
* Charge connection behind the old fuel door -- but the cable release for
the door is sticky (sorrreee!)
* "AM/FM Cassette Stereo with Graphic Equalizer" ... and a few cassettes!

As far as I know, all it needs is new batteries and a new controller.  But I
*don't really know* ... that's why it's so cheap.  Car is being sold "as is"
with no guarantees or representations.  You should verify all the above if
you care.

Pictures here:
http://cbfamily.smugmug.com/Other/100622-RX7/12665207_fGjt4#910758611_vTUNg
(Ignore the pictures of me and of the previous owner's son.)

Asking merely what I paid for it:

$2500

Jon Balgley
jon at photodad.com
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