[Oeva-list] New Invention - "Hybrid" Power Generation.
Myles Twete
matwete at comcast.net
Mon Jan 25 11:47:47 PST 2010
>I love reading emails like this because I always wonder how people get
around the laws of physics. You can't get something for nothing!
Yeah, but we all have better things to do with our lives than to listen to
Free Energy drivel on this and other practical propulsion lists.
When you read everything on his website, you realize that all he has
discovered is that you can embed a separately wound generator into the same
housing (and plane) as the drive motor. So what? And so ignoring the
claims of self-sufficiency and generating more power than was put in, he
repeatedly mentions the more realistic expectation that this 3d motor
generates power "when not in propulsion mode". Not mentioned is that the
motor/generator will quickly spin down as power is drawn from it. Any
permanent magnet DC motor will do this. It's not clear to me that the
'inventor' of this gizmo really understands electromagnetic theory or
realizes the dualities between magnetic and electric interactions. It's not
clear to me that he's ever used motor/generator equations such as these: Vm
= Kb*wm + Rm*Im ; Tm=Kt*Im - Tf ; Kb=Kt.
I hear lots of ambition and read unsubstantiated claims on his website, but
basically, this is someone trolling for investment money. His "Star of
David" motor invention description uses the classic hypnotic free-energy
inventor mantra---I've seen this for over 25 years now, from Joseph Newman's
free energy motors (including his 300+ page tome on its theory of operations
and how his motor converted electron mass to energy directly with E=mc^2) to
Bruce DePalma's "N-Machine" (which was nothing more than a permanent magnet
homopolar motor/generator---highly efficient (94%+ possible), but claims of
300pct efficiency were never publicly demonstrated).
Common to all of these invention claims are:
(1) they claim something new and give a catchy new name to it (N-machine,
Star Of David motor, etc.);
(2) they give you just enough description or hyperbole to capture your
imagination, but often smartly not enough to set off your smell alarm;
(3) they make free-energy claims or use ambiguous claims that sound like
free-energy claims, but then do not provide any theory to allow
understanding, let alone verification of the claims;
(4) they almost always try to personalize the machine and convince the
audience that they are a genius and that this came out of some divine
inspiration (an aha! Moment) that came out of years of exploration or try to
establish a history of being a genius;
(5) they usually have built only a couple of prototypes and make wild claims
as to performance and applicability before having tested anything, let alone
provided results that are verifiable;
(6) they often claim patents were applied for or are pending (or were
rejected because the Patent Office isn't "open minded"), but when someone
else attempts to verify the claim, nothing comes up (as in this case---try
googling his "Patent Pending" No.12/504,309.;
(7) they never have products available to test, let alone sell, but are
always looking for investors; finally,
(8) when criticized, they claim you are either an agent, a spy or just don't
have the training, experience or vision to understand what their device
does. Or more often they claim that they are tapping into an energy field
that the current laws of physics cannot explain at this time---eg. Joseph
Newman's claimed that his motor's armature had such a long length that when
switching current fast enough into the winding, electrons didn't have a
enough time to get to the other end of the coil before the current was
switched again. He postulated that the electrons were being annihilated in
the coils and their energy (E=mc^2) was being liberated----of course, he
never provided any verifiable proof of this. In over 20 years, I have never
heard of Newman's switched motor technology being put to use.
I am open minded on free energy in general, but based on 2 decades of
reviewing such claims (some actually interesting---like the N-machine), I
have a very low tolerance for free energy claims that are thinly veiled
attempts at getting funding. It doesn't take too many guys like this who
talk a good story and suck venture capitalist dollars to sour the entire
venture capital pool of funders from investing money into well founded novel
motor/generator designs. For that reason alone, we should deny a forum for
these guys. The sad truth is that it doesn't take much to get something
patented. And even patented motor technology doesn't equate to good
technology. I worked for a firm with motor patents and indeed the patented
motor design and technology was both interesting and motor/generators made
from their technology would fit some niches well. Yet in my opinion the
motor designer didn't really understand the theory of motor/generators and
made baseless comments that his design was better than all the other similar
motors for every application. Patents only give a designer the right to sue
others who violate the claims made. They do not ensure at all that
something built to those claims would be any better than anything else out
there.
So for me, the smell test isn't passed when a designer focuses on themselves
(as a genius savant), uses a catchy name for their device, provides no means
to evaluate the efficacy of the device, has only built 1 or 2 prototypes, is
attempting to look legitimate with catchy company and product names and is
clearly trolling for money without establishing any way for skeptics to
verify the claims. Let's not provide forums for these guys, no matter how
local or legitimate sounding they are unless they pass the smell test.
Sincerely,
Myles Twete, P.E. - EE and Control Systems
Portland
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