[Oeva-list] Smell Test?

[steve boser]

Hi All

My question is: Should any company or individual asking for investors use
the OEVA as what might be viewed as a reference?  Particularly when there
isn't any evidence the device operates as described. Without first posting
if anyone had any concerns about referencing the OEVA? And is there anything
written that addresses this concern? Personally if I had something to sell,
I'd ask before I put a link on my webpage. I agree with Dan, I think
everyone would like to see your device in action.

Thank you

Steve Boser

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Oliver <citicar at no-url.com> wrote:

>  I’m confused.  I thought this group *promoted* innovation. Have any of
> you tested Carey’s design and found it not to work?  He has obviously spent
> an enormous amount of time, energy and personal funding getting to this
> point, and is proud of his invention.  You respond by telling him to remove
> the link?  WTF?
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> Keep at it Carey – the world is NEVER as flat as they tell you!
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> My 2 cents.
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> -Oliver
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> *From:* oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Rob Stewert
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:19 AM
> *To:* carey at evergreenelectricvehicles.com
> *Cc:* Oeva-list at oeva.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [Oeva-list] Smell Test?
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> Methinks thou doth protest too much.
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> Bob Stewert
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> Portland, OR
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> rbstewert at gmail.com
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> On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Carey Dahlen wrote:
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>    Smell Test?
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> I have never been attacked like this in all my life! I had to ask my self
> what in the hell is going on here. It has become quite clear I am not
> communicating effectively; this whole thing has hit a nerve, spiraling out
> of control.
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> I would never insult the intelligence of this worthy association.
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> I see a group of people who are trying to influence positive change in the
> electric vehicle industry in our region. I am also. I have only been a
> member of this group for a short time. I’ve read your messages, Like me, I
> see you are all problem solvers!
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> Damage Control! In order to stop the bleeding and put an end to all this
> nonsense, let me make the following crystal clear!
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> My design has *absolutely nothing* to do with the smoke and mirrors of so
> called “Free Energy” or free energy machines period! I will not be
> associated with scams or be labeled as a charlatan! I am a hard working
> honest Christian man!
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> I have never even heard of Joseph Newman or Bruce DePalma. Nor, do I care
> what they do! or claim! it must be preposterous.
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> I should stop right here and let the dust settle!
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> But the amount of character assignation was way over the top. A man is not
> a man if he does not defend himself. To imply my work is not legitimate and
> that I am some sort of bottom feeder seeking to steal away funding is just
> plain wrong!
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> I am a legitimate researcher and will continue to do legitimate research!
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> If anything I have been naïve.
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> My simple basic 3D design is based on mature electric motor and electric
> generator science working *with-in* the laws of physics and conservation.
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> *It takes power to make power!*
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> My design *is* 100% about increasing *output efficiency* with a new frame
> or platform, which will allow for *more options* in the field of Power
> Generation!
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> What is wrong with a hybrid motor generator?
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> I have no disclaimer. I will back up my claims. My story is my description
> of how I came up with the hybrid concept. The “Star of David” configuration
> accurately lays out component locations, giving designers and builders an
> easy overview of the expandability of the machines design.
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> To date I have followed all the rules. After conceiving my hybrid design, I
> began to search the web and the USPTO’s data base to see if anyone had
> already patented this concept. I paid my patent attorney for a professional
> patent searcher. The professional search came up with about a dozen similar
> designs but, did not exclude me from moving forward. I then built my first
> prototype and used the data to draft my patent application. I have paid all
> the required fees and my patent documents will be published by the USPTO
> March 2010.
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> I will have my petition filed this week with the USPTO to take advantage of
> the pilot program for green technologies. I am actively seeking funding to
> take my design to the next level, full size working models that I can use to
> produce the needed data to substantiate or verify my claims. That’s how the
> system works!
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> I realize for the most part I did not communicate properly in the
> beginning.
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> Let the record show I was the one to introduce this new concept and shared
> my abstract with this group at no cost or obligation because I am excited
> about everything I have accomplished in this field!
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> I am Proud of all my accomplishments!
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> Sincerely,
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> Carey Dahlen, Master Electrician - General Supervising Electrician #5522S
> for the Great State of Oregon.
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> Carey Dahlen, CEO
> *EverGreen Electric Vehicles, LLC*
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> *3D Propulsion, LLC*
> Website; *evergreenelectricvehicles.com*
> Email; carey at evergreenelectricvehicles.com
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> Business; 541-227-9063
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