[Oeva-list] New Invention -

[schristie at mind.net]

	Carey, et. al., 

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I think that there is some confusion about who started this.  You
asked for feedback.  You didn't suggest what kind and so this is a
diverse group of people who will offer it.  I am one of them. 

	On your website you state, "I decided to try and do something to
increase the output of electric vehicle propulsion systems. I began
to build my first prototype. I used a 12Vdc car battery, a 12Vdc
electric motor, an automotive alternator, I hand made a 50 lb.
flywheel with motor cycle brake discs, and I experimented with many
different pulley ratios, until I realized I just could not sustain
maximum power with this configuration. I then began to brainstorm and
struggled with many different power generating combinations, motor
generator, generator motor etc. I came to my end of reasoning; I then
prayed and asked God to help me figure this out. That was January 1st.
2009. The next morning was my 52nd birthday; I awoke with a clear
vision of what I call the “Star of David” configuration. I could
see the system operating in my mind. The information was flowing out
of me like water. I immediately set out to document the design and
build the prototype. As I think back now, the whole experience is
hard to describe, “Awesome”. ”Unreal” Like a cross between
Kevin Costners’ “Field of Dreams” and John Travoltas’
“Phenomenon” except I don’t die at the end! I certainly will
not deny where the idea came from and produced my second prototype.
It is a new Hybrid Three Dimensional Motor Generator System that is
the framework for all my testing. This design is very efficient.
Makes sense when you see it run! One of the design aspects; It now
allows us to use electricity to produce more electricity! Works
within the laws of conservation and physics! My design is a new
“Tool” “Frame” or “Platform” for engineers’,
designers’, manufacturers’ etc. A new efficient way to produce
and use electricity! It uses existing manufacturing materials and
techniques, used by persons skilled in the art of electric apparatus.
This design did not make sense before pollution and conservation of
resources was an issue. But it sure does now! “The implications’
of the applications’ are only limited by the imagination!”  

	First, there would be no surprise at scepticism.  In your
description, you define your invention as, "something to increase the
output of electric vehicle propulsion systems".  The something is then
described as, "the “Star of David” configuration. I could see the
system operating in my mind. The information was flowing out of me
like water. I immediately set out to document the design and build
the prototype."  This is not a description or substantive summary of
anything.  When you say, "This design is very efficient. Makes sense
when you see it run!"  

	There is nothing about your description that would allow a person to
validate your claims through scientific inquiry.  Regardless of
whether something works or not, the way to empirically validate and
replicate results is through a method of validation and replication. 
If you have a thesis of whether or not something works or not, you
have to describe it in detail (which you haven't), propose a
statement of the correlation of how it does function related to the a
current knowledge base (unless there is something dynamically
different here then a current understanding of physics, i.e., the
laws of thermodynamics etc...) must be applied to the design (which
you don't describe).  I would doubt that even if I saw it 'run' that
I would even begin to theorize how it would "now allows us to use
electricity to produce more electricity" which essentially is
suggesting that you would use more energy to producing more energy.  


	I am not being rude to simply suggest that because your information
appears emotional, unscientific, and not based in fact. 
Additionally, your responses are equally emotional, unscientific and
not based in a current framework of the laws of physics.  I would
suggest that if you want to convince people that your idea(s) are
viable that you need to respond with information that allows for full
disclosure while responding to critics.  Although there are overtones
that you might be 'crazy', the embedded questions and inquiries are
valid.  If you need to wait for your patent to clear before you
disclose or respond to the issues presented, perhaps now is not the
time to prove yourself when you are not presenting enough information
to validate your claims.  I wish you well. 

	Regards, Scott Christie, Ph.D.
 On Fri 22/01/10 8:37 AM , "Carey Dahlen"
carey at evergreenelectricvehicles.com sent:
  Hello, My name is Carey Dahlen.  I have invented a new way to use
electricity to increase the output of electrical systems as a whole. 


	I have invented a New “Hybrid” Electric Motor / Generator
System.  

	My Patent Pending Utility Application, serial number 12/504,309_._
Filed in the United States Patent and Trademark Office effective
_JULY 16, 2009_ is due for early publication to the National Stage by
March 2010.     My System allows for; Electric Vehicles to Re-Charge
themselves, when not in propulsion mode. Increase (existing) EV
System output by 50%. My machine installs anywhere in a vehicle
between batteries and propulsion motor.  
 My website; evergreenelectricvehicles.com Contains my
Accreditations, Photos, Prototype Video, Notes to Drawings, Future
Plans, Design Concepts, Press, Links and more information.   This is
new and exciting!     Please Forward!  I see things from a technical
standpoint "Feed Back" would be Appreciated.  
  Thank You Carey Dahlen,  Inventor - CEO 
 EverGreen Electric Vehicles, LLC 3D Propulsion, LLC 
 Website; evergreenelectricvehicles.com 
 Email;  Business; 541-227-9063   Copyright © 2009 EverGreen
Electric Vehicles, LLC 
 All Rights Reserved.
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