[Oeva-list] EV powered by coal

patrick0101 at gmail.com patrick0101 at gmail.com
Tue May 25 11:21:58 PDT 2010

I found these two videos about wind and the grid to be very informative.

I had no idea that there were already 15 large pump storage facilities in
the US for surplus energy storage. Colorado and Denmark studies show that
wind can contribute to grid stability, rather than be a burden on the grid.

headline you'll never see: Millions of Electrons Spilled on the Gulf Coast

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Alan Batie <alan at batie.org> wrote:

> On 5/24/10 1:34 PM, Steve's Account wrote:
> > I'd sure like to see an accounting of where these wind offset programs
> > stand with respect to ACTUALLY buying wind generated power.
> I think that is not an unreasonable request of the power companies; I'm
> buying 100% renewable power myself (Pacific Power's Blue Sky), but for a
> little while, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.  It's
> hard to miss the miles and miles of windfarms when you drive through the
> gorge, so A. they're getting built and B. when they're generating power,
> I doubt the power company's throwing it away.  They may still be
> figuring out how to optimally make use of it, but it *is* a new system
> to integrate.
> The fast response systems may be more expensive to operate, but by their
> nature, it would seem that they only need to be a small part of the
> power mix, buffering the variability of both supply and demand as the
> slower responding systems adjust at their pace.  If the overall result
> is a significant reduction in non-renewable fuel consumption, it still
> seems like a win to me...
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