From gary at greenlivingjournal.com  Wed Sep  1 08:03:12 2010
From: gary at greenlivingjournal.com (Gary Munkhoff)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] E-Beetle across Canada
Message-ID: <4C7E6B30.3020606@greenlivingjournal.com>

Students from the University of British Columbia Electric Car Club 
converted a 1972 VW to electric drive and are now driving it from 
Vancouver, BC to Halifax, Nova Scotia. They should be in Ottawa today.

This is an impressive conversion: 341 miles @ 31 mph or 186 miles @ 62mph.

Two students, a dog and no support team.

http://www.ubcecc.com/blog/the-car

Gary

-- 
Don't Buy - Don't Drill

Gary Munkhoff, Editor & Publisher
Green Living Journal
P.O. Box 677
Cascade Locks, OR 97014
541.374.5454



From salzmande at comcast.net  Wed Sep  1 11:25:13 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:25:13 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Coulomb
Message-ID: <1C0EA4FA-D81F-40AF-815D-0AB4F7AF82D0@comcast.net>

Hi All,

I just talked to the Coulomb Rep. in Wa. about their CT500 home  
charger and was told that they have decided not to offer a home  
charger at this time. Too bad it looks like a nice unit.

Well we still have Leviton & GE if AV doesn't wake up.

Stay Well,

Dave 


From edjackie88 at aol.com  Wed Sep  1 12:31:37 2010
From: edjackie88 at aol.com (Edjackie88)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:31:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] bikes and electric cars at street fair
Message-ID: <8CD18236D60ADF9-1878-F6F@webmail-m019.sysops.aol.com>


I will send a message to the oeva list and let you know as soon as the replies come in. We can bring our electric 75 green beetle. Ed





-----Original Message-----
From: John Barker, Architect <barkerark at qwestoffice.net>
To: BSF, Electri Car Club, Ed Storey, Ed Storey <edjackie88 at aol.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 1, 2010 9:47 am
Subject: [Fwd: Re: bikes and electric cars at street fair]


Hi, Ed

I'm resending the email attached.  Basically I think we can find some room for electric cars at the Belmont Street Fair - in the parking lot if not on the street.  How many do you think?........

John, BSF coordinator

-- 
ohn Barker, Architect
124 SE Taylor
ortland, OR 97214
h/fax:  503 231-9118


Attached Message


From:
John Barker, Architect <barkerark at qwestoffice.net>

To:
Tim Brooks <Tim at winterbrookplanning.com>; Bill Stites <Bill at stitesdesign.com>; edjackie88 at qol.com

Subject:
Re: bikes and electric cars at street fair

Date:
Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:17:32 -0700


Hi, guys. 
As long as the electric cars are a bit flexible, I think we can find some room for 2 - 3 of. them either at the end of Stumptown before the inflatables or across the street in the parking lot. Actually, we could probably get several in the parking lot as there are no booths there - just kids. Ed, about how many cars do you think want to be in the fair? Attached is the plan for this block as well as the next block. 
 
John, PS: you can now download the poster on-line at belmontbusiness.org. 
 
Tim Brooks wrote: 
> 
> Yes, sounds good. Perhaps John can send a map if he thinks there?s > room for EVs. Tim 
> 
> *From:* Bill Stites [mailto:bill at stitesdesign.com] 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:37 AM 
> *To:* John Barker, Architect 
> *Cc:* edjackie88 at aol.com; Tim Brooks 
> *Subject:* Re: bikes and electric cars at street fair 
> 
> The section for cargo bikes is approaching full. I have 5 confirmed > participants, each bringing 2 - 3 bikes. Basically, if there is room > down on the south end for a few electric cars, I'm OK with that, but > we need 50 - 60 feet from the corner of Belmont/34th down along the > west curb - where Stumptown Coffee is. 
> I believe this will take us down to approx. the driveway of the first > house. With all the kids activities now in the parking lot, maybe > there's room there? Any inflatable structures this year, John? 
> 
> So, to be clear, I don't want to mix bikes and cars, but as long as we > have our 50 - 60 feet, green cars are welcome on the south end. 
> Is this agreeable Tim? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Bill 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:02 AM, John Barker, Architect > <barkerark at qwestoffice.net <mailto:barkerark at qwestoffice.net>> wrote: 
> 
> Hi, Ed: 
> 
> Thanks for your club members' interest in have electric vehicles at > the Belmont Street Fair. I will forward your email to Bill Stites > (503) 989-0059 and Tim Brooks 503 827-4422, xt. 100 who are > coordinating this aspect....... This year we are having primarily > various locally produced bicycles. But I think it would still be nice > to include a couple electric vehicles. There's a goodly amount of room > on 34th since we moved most of the booths to Belmont itself. 
> john barker 
> 
> edjackie88 at aol.com <mailto:edjackie88 at aol.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Has the oeva talked to you about having some electric vehicles at the > fair? Some of the members would like to show off their cars if you are > interested. My name is Ed Storey. You can reply to me and I will > forward your message to Richard or you can contact him direct. You may > want to tell him how many vehicles you have room for. Thanks, Ed and > Jackie Storey, 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Richard Hamje <richard at hamje.net <mailto:richard at hamje.net>> 
> To: oeva-list <oeva-list at oeva.org <mailto:oeva-list at oeva.org>> 
> Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2010 1:07 pm 
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Belmost Street Fair? 
> 
> Hello all, 
> The Belmont Street Fair is Dept 12 and is themed "LocalMotion". The ad > I saw indicated there will be an alternate transportation display. I > believe that OEVA was at this event last year. I'd be happy to bring > my EV if we've been invited for this year. Does anyone know if we're > invited? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Richard 
> Richard Hamje 
> 822 SE 45th Avenue 
> Portland, OR 97215 
> 503-805-8829 
> richard at hamje.net <mailto:richard at hamje.net> <mailto:richard at hamje.net > <mailto:richard at hamje.net>> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Oeva-list mailing list 
> Oeva-list at oeva.org <mailto:Oeva-list at oeva.org> > <mailto:Oeva-list at oeva.org <mailto:Oeva-list at oeva.org>> 
> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list 
> 
> 
> -- > John Barker, Architect 
> 3124 SE Taylor 
> Portland, OR 97214 
> Ph/fax: 503 231-9118 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- > Bill Stites D.C. 
> www.StitesDesign.com <http://www.StitesDesign.com> 
> 3450 SE Alder Street 
> Portland, OR. 97214 
> [503] 989-0059 
> Bill at StitesDesign.com 
> 
 
-- John Barker, Architect 
3124 SE Taylor 
Portland, OR 97214 
Ph/fax: 503 231-9118 
 




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From pusa411 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  1 13:15:32 2010
From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:15:32 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Who bought the Zap Zebra?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuXEQ5tNPWpa1=DYeXx_CUvAWwZo=56t_Ys4JY@mail.gmail.com>

So, who bought the Zap Zebra that Copart had for auction..??

...I'd like to help you take it apart, to learn more about them..

THX..
             Daniel T "Bubba" Conway

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From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com  Wed Sep  1 22:42:16 2010
From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 22:42:16 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Speeding Bullet EV from Ohio State Claims World Speed
	Record
Message-ID: <AANLkTikvo5jrcxKqjbXaRsbKDOdmh2emjwahgNwm7DmQ@mail.gmail.com>

The sleek battery-powered Venturi Buckeye Bullet 2.5 poised for a record run
over Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats.
Credit: Venturi Buckeye Bullet
A team led by engineering students from The Ohio State University has
claimed a world land-speed record for electric vehicles (EV) after their
sleek Venturi Buckeye Bullet 2.5 averaged 307 mph across Utah's Bonneville
Salt Flats on August 24. The lithium ion battery-powered EV, guided by a
professional driver on the 12-mile course, smashed the previous 245 mph
world land speed record for battery electric vehicles set in 1999. The new
mark is pending certification by the Federation Internationale de
l'Automobile (FIA), the worldwide motor sports governing body.
Under competition rules, the Bullet was required to make two speed runs, one
each in opposite directions, within 60 minutes. At one point, the EV reached
320 mph. The Bullet 2.5 uses the same body and chassis of the hydrogen fuel
cell-powered Buckeye Bullet 2, which in 2009 set a FIA-certified world
record of 302 mph. The team is supported by French electric vehicle
manufacturer Venturi Automobiles. See the Ohio State press release and the
Bullet Web site.

http://engineering.osu.edu/news/?p=1473

Jeff
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From celticsolar at gmail.com  Fri Sep  3 00:09:41 2010
From: celticsolar at gmail.com (CelticSolar)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 00:09:41 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: Bright Nets $5M From GM
In-Reply-To: <e916283cdcd940ddb54404810e15ab66@rmi.netcommunity1.com>
References: <e916283cdcd940ddb54404810e15ab66@rmi.netcommunity1.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=f7sq80d7qWov8tBXDrDPWHp1wBn2mWtwfUEh0@mail.gmail.com>

The Rocky Mountain Institute included the OEVA's tweet about them in their
newsletter. See the What You're Saying section in the lower right. Cool.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rocky Mountain Institute <outreach at rmi.org>
Date: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:07 AM
Subject: Bright Nets $5M From GM

   [image: RMI Spark, the eNewsletter of Rocky Mountain Institute]
*Wednesday, August
18, 2010*Featured Blog

*The Future Just Got Brighter
GM's $5 million investment gives Bright Automotive a big push
**By Kelly Vaughn*

Last week, General Motors and *Bright
Automotive<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.brightautomotive.com&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
* announced a new strategic relationship just two months after GM launched
its venture capital branch to fund advanced transportation projects.

Bright Automotive, spun off from *Rocky Mountain
Institute<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
* in 2008, now has bragging rights as the first investment of GM Ventures,
LLC. The $5 million from the auto giant couldn?t have come at a better time,
providing a solid shot in the arm to drive the company?s 100-mpg plug-in
hybrid electric fleet vehicle, the IDEA, into mass production.

?It's fair to say that almost every global car company is getting serious
about efficiency and electrification,? said Michael Brylawski, vice
president of corporate strategy at Bright Automotive. ?In particular,
getting funded from GM's Venture unit puts the deal in the right context. GM
can invest in us as a ?high risk/high return? entity, and it lets us
commercialize our innovative business model and vehicle concept.?
*More<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fBrightNetsGMInvestment&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*

*More RMI Blogs*

   - *How EV-Ready is
America?*<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fAmerica%2bEV%2bReadiness&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
   - *Read All<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fBlog&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
   <http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fAmerica%2bEV%2bReadiness&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
   *


Project Updates

*Alliance for Residential Building Innovation
*RMI was recently selected to the Alliance for Residential Building
Innovation (ARBI) by the U.S. Department of Energy. This team is one of 15
research and deployment partnerships under the DOE?s $30 million
comprehensive Energy Efficiency Buildings Program.

The first round of projects aim to deliver energy efficiency strategies to
the residential market and address barriers to bringing high-efficiency
homes within reach for all Americans.
***More*<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fPress%2bReleases&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>


*Interacting with Sustainability
*Last month, the Empire State Building unveiled a $2 million interactive
sustainability *exhibit<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.esbtour.com%2fd%2f&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*, which showcases the $20 million energy retrofit project.

By communicating the story of the building?s *award-winning
retrofit<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fRetroFit&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
 *program, the installation aims to educate the millions of people who visit
the building every year on the positive global impact of energy efficient
building and sustainable living practices. *Take a virtual
tour<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.esbtour.com%2fd%2f&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*.

*EDF Solutions Labs
*RMI is partnering with the Environmental Defense Fund to host a series of
events, and bringing together individuals from a variety of industries to
drive sustainability practices in businesses.

Last week, we joined EDF in Chicago to discuss solutions for transportation
and freight, brainstorming ways to engage stakeholders and get disparate
organizations talking in a more efficient manner. Learn about upcoming
Solutions Labs *in your
area<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fgreenbusinessinnovators.wetpaint.com%2f&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*.

[image: Video]
 **

*RMI TV
*Check out *RMI
TV<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2ftv&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
* to see all the videos we and others have made over the years about RMI.
Help us spread the word?you can now embed or email any video, so sharing and
"going viral" is easy.
*More<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2ftv&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*
   [image: From the Archives]  *Triple Safety*

Published by the Society of Automotive Engineers, this
*article<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fLibrary%2f2008-23_TripleSafetyLightweighting&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
* proposes vehicle lightweighting solutions that can both improve efficiency
and maintain (or even improve) highway safety.
*More<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fLibrary%2f2008-23_TripleSafetyLightweighting&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*


   [image: RMI in the News]  **

*Reinventing Fire

*At Techonomy 2010, Chief Scientist Amory Lovins outlined RMI?s ambitious
roadmap to a future powered by efficiency and renewables. (*Discovery News*)
*More*<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fblogs.discovermagazine.com%2fintersection%2f2010%2f08%2f05%2flovin-energy-efficiency%2f&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*
*

*Another Step for Bright*

Ex-Tesla executive Mike Donoughe recently joined RMI spinoff Bright
Automotive as its new chief operating officer. (*Autoblog green*)
*More*<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fgreen.autoblog.com%2f2010%2f08%2f12%2fex-tesla-chrysler-exec-mike-donoughe-joins-bright-automotive-as%2f&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>

*Reinforcing Change*

When it comes to energy use, how much change can individuals make by
changing behavior en masse?. (*The Star Phoenix*) *More
<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.thestarphoenix.com%2ftechnology%2fHere%2bways%2bhelp%2bsave%2bplanet%2f3407076%2fstory.html&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*

[image: Friends of RMI]

***Catawba College Center for the
Environment<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.centerfortheenvironment.org%2findex.php%2fyouth-environment-summit.html&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*, in partnership with RMI, will host ?Redesigning the World: The National
Youth Environmental Summit,? a five-day intensive experience next summer for
rising high school juniors and seniors.
*More<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.centerfortheenvironment.org%2findex.php%2fyouth-environment-summit.html&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*

[image: What You're Saying]

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"Rocky Mountain Institute's Reinventing Fire?abundant renewable energy and
electric vehicles
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*"

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Thraen:"RMI the best think tank? now the best action tank in the world!"

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promising future, powered by efficiency and renewables, and free of fossil
fuels. *Donate*<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2fDefault.aspx%3fId%3d197&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  3 00:10:59 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 00:10:59 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: Bright Nets $5M From GM
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=f7sq80d7qWov8tBXDrDPWHp1wBn2mWtwfUEh0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e916283cdcd940ddb54404810e15ab66@rmi.netcommunity1.com>
	<AANLkTi=f7sq80d7qWov8tBXDrDPWHp1wBn2mWtwfUEh0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTink-JsFmD5YpfbCYUwvt=bYJONkHBJQwZAkWx5H@mail.gmail.com>

The Rocky Mountain Institute included the OEVA's tweet about them in their
newsletter. See the What You're Saying section in the lower right. Cool.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rocky Mountain Institute <outreach at rmi.org>
Date: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:07 AM
Subject: Bright Nets $5M From GM

   [image: RMI Spark, the eNewsletter of Rocky Mountain Institute]
*Wednesday, August
18, 2010*Featured Blog

*The Future Just Got Brighter
GM's $5 million investment gives Bright Automotive a big push
**By Kelly Vaughn*

Last week, General Motors and *Bright
Automotive<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.brightautomotive.com&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
* announced a new strategic relationship just two months after GM launched
its venture capital branch to fund advanced transportation projects.

Bright Automotive, spun off from *Rocky Mountain
Institute<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
* in 2008, now has bragging rights as the first investment of GM Ventures,
LLC. The $5 million from the auto giant couldn?t have come at a better time,
providing a solid shot in the arm to drive the company?s 100-mpg plug-in
hybrid electric fleet vehicle, the IDEA, into mass production.

?It's fair to say that almost every global car company is getting serious
about efficiency and electrification,? said Michael Brylawski, vice
president of corporate strategy at Bright Automotive. ?In particular,
getting funded from GM's Venture unit puts the deal in the right context. GM
can invest in us as a ?high risk/high return? entity, and it lets us
commercialize our innovative business model and vehicle concept.?
*More<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fBrightNetsGMInvestment&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*

*More RMI Blogs*

   - *How EV-Ready is
America?*<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fAmerica%2bEV%2bReadiness&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
   - *Read All<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fBlog&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
   <http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fAmerica%2bEV%2bReadiness&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
   *


Project Updates

*Alliance for Residential Building Innovation
*RMI was recently selected to the Alliance for Residential Building
Innovation (ARBI) by the U.S. Department of Energy. This team is one of 15
research and deployment partnerships under the DOE?s $30 million
comprehensive Energy Efficiency Buildings Program.

The first round of projects aim to deliver energy efficiency strategies to
the residential market and address barriers to bringing high-efficiency
homes within reach for all Americans.
***More*<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fPress%2bReleases&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>


*Interacting with Sustainability
*Last month, the Empire State Building unveiled a $2 million interactive
sustainability *exhibit<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.esbtour.com%2fd%2f&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*, which showcases the $20 million energy retrofit project.

By communicating the story of the building?s *award-winning
retrofit<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rmi.org%2frmi%2fRetroFit&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
 *program, the installation aims to educate the millions of people who visit
the building every year on the positive global impact of energy efficient
building and sustainable living practices. *Take a virtual
tour<http://nc.rmi.org//page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.esbtour.com%2fd%2f&srcid=23729&srctid=1&erid=2546521>
*.

*EDF Solutions Labs
*RMI is partnering with the Environmental Defense Fund to host a series of
events, and bringing together individuals from a variety of industries to
drive sustainability practices in businesses.

Last week, we joined EDF in Chicago to discuss solutions for transportation
and freight, brainstorming ways to engage stakeholders and get disparate
organizations talking in a more efficient manner. Learn about upcoming
Solutions Labs *in your
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From edjackie88 at aol.com  Fri Sep  3 18:36:19 2010
From: edjackie88 at aol.com (Edjackie88)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:36:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Room for one more at th Belmont Steet Fair 9-12-10
Message-ID: <8CD19E8B53872D2-B84-58EE@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com>


I you can show your ev at the Belmont Sreet Fair, let me know and we will reserve the last of three spots for you.thanks, Ed and Jackie

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From nevokyay at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  6 10:08:37 2010
From: nevokyay at yahoo.com (Nev Okyay)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:08:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] selling my EV..
Message-ID: <621332.63613.qm@web55102.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



I am selling my neighborhood electric vehicle.  Here is
the CL ad for it.  

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/1938400381.html



      


From blaze at chargenw.com  Tue Sep  7 17:30:08 2010
From: blaze at chargenw.com (Jim Blaisdell)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:30:08 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] New j1772 charging stations in Hillsboro
Message-ID: <9983332A-A568-4A49-8068-7747F1521C4E@chargenw.com>

Hi Folks, FYI, Hillsboro has installed 5 New CT2101 Charging stations  
at the new Inter-modal Transit Facility in  Hillsboro. I believe the  
facility opens to the public next week.

The stations are located at:
253 SE 8th Ave
Hillsboro, OR 97123

These are both Level 1 and level 2 and are currently free of charge.

Hillsboro will be adding 8 additional wall mount stations to the  
facility soon for a total of 13 stations at the facility.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Jim Blaisdell
Charge Northwest
Coulomb, Chargepoint Distributors
22322 NE 157th St
Woodinville, WA 98077

253-304-5625 	cell
253-265-0919	office
http://www.chargenw.com/
> P   Please consider the environment before printing this message.

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From jamiemar at speakeasy.net  Tue Sep  7 21:31:07 2010
From: jamiemar at speakeasy.net (Jamie Marshall)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:31:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Corbin Sparrow for Sale in Seattle
Message-ID: <4C87118B.1030703@speakeasy.net>

I hope this an appropriate use of your email list, but I live in Seattle 
and I'm selling a 2000 Sparrow.  Details can be found at the web site I 
made for the sale at www.SparrowForSale.com

Thanks,
-Jamie Marshall


From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Wed Sep  8 10:28:53 2010
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:28:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] G4 TV
Message-ID: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E19C97037@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>

See Oregon featured in this show.  http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/greentech/72005/Eco-Friendly-Transportation-Tech.html

(Gary Graunke was on it and I flashed on the screen for a second.)


Rick Durst

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121 SW Salmon St, 3WTC0407 | Portland, Oregon 97204 | *: 503.464-7631 | 7: 503.464-2284 | *: Rick.Durst at pgn.com<mailto:rick.durst at pgn.com>

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From nickgaladay at msn.com  Thu Sep  9 17:34:40 2010
From: nickgaladay at msn.com (Nick)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:34:40 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] New car window sticker designs
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP11635BE4AFB9CD90DF80BB9BD740@phx.gbl>

 

 
http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2010/08/31/epa-proposes-revised-window-sti
ckers-for-new-cars/

I found this link on the Leaf Facebook Wall.  Here's a chance for some
better qualified soul in our group to provide some useful, thoughtful and
well reasoned/researched specific input.  Were I qualified I would opine
that the sticker should be written in American car driver lingo, i.e., MPG
equivalence, as well as $dollars / mile (based on some national average
electric cost such as 10 cents per kwh).  It should be clear that the cost
of operating a plug-in is about a forth the cost of the equivalent ICE.  And
two efficiency comparisons should be made:  Between this car and all other
EVs (or ICEs), and all cars of all classes.  This would show any ICE at or
near the bottom of the "ALL CARS" comparison.  Furthermore, any
environmental impact (such as carbon footprint), and efficiency comparisons
should be based on "well to wheel" or "mineshaft to wheel", whichever
applies.  It would also be especially nice to be able to somehow show the %
'domestic content' of the energy consumed!  Here's our chance to help build
a level playing field.

   Nick Galaday

           Energy conservation--

                     saves more than energy!

 

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From mikeov1 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 10 08:35:54 2010
From: mikeov1 at gmail.com (mike overton)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:35:54 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Volunteer opportunities
Message-ID: <AANLkTind-x9jDkSumKCVcdFdPyPcDYr0cvyfv0H7JtZs@mail.gmail.com>

Last night at the monthly meeting John asked for opportunities where OEVA
members could volunteer.  With the goal being to help the community and
raise awareness for the OEVA.

I notice that  the Oregon Environmental Council and and Standard Ins are
doing a Volunteer Expo with about 100 different non-profit groups there
looking for volunteers.

Unfortunatly KGW and the OEC web sites disagree on the date - it is either
today or tomorrow  in the Pioneer Courthouse Square from 11:30 to 1:30.  I
have a call in to OEC to try to find out.  If anyone has a good contact that
can verify the correct date I would appreciate knowing.

So - if anyone can go and look, there might be opportunities there - and
maybe even ones that are environmentally sound which might have good synergy
with many OEVA goals.

Mike

http://www.oeconline.org/event-content-items/volunteer-expo-with-the-standard

http://events.kgw.com/portland/events/the-standard-volunteer-expo-/E0-001-031543011-7
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From mark58150 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 10 09:52:42 2010
From: mark58150 at yahoo.com (Mark Freidberg)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] Volunteer opportunities
Message-ID: <197388.76456.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>











Hi Mike,
?
The Pioneer Courthouse Square calendar is showing today (Friday 9/10) as the date:
http://pioneercourthousesquare.org/calendar.shtm

?
Mark Freidberg
?

--- On Fri, 9/10/10, mike overton <mikeov1 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: mike overton <mikeov1 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Volunteer opportunities
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 8:35 AM



Last night at the monthly meeting John asked for opportunities where OEVA members could volunteer.? With the goal being to help the community and raise awareness for the OEVA.
?
I notice that? the Oregon Environmental Council and and Standard Ins are doing a Volunteer Expo with about 100 different non-profit groups there looking for volunteers.
?
Unfortunatly KGW and the OEC web sites disagree on the date - it is either today or tomorrow? in the Pioneer Courthouse Square from 11:30 to 1:30.? I have a call in to OEC to try to find out.? If anyone has a good contact that can verify the correct date I would appreciate knowing.
?
So - if anyone can go and look, there might be opportunities there - and maybe even ones that are environmentally sound which might have good synergy with many OEVA goals.
?
Mike
?
http://www.oeconline.org/event-content-items/volunteer-expo-with-the-standard
?
http://events.kgw.com/portland/events/the-standard-volunteer-expo-/E0-001-031543011-7
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From mikeov1 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 11 11:17:56 2010
From: mikeov1 at gmail.com (mike overton)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:17:56 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Batteries Available
Message-ID: <AANLkTinu3q9KK-BijYaDP=F-wp_tG-Lw4vftn=1zNRP2@mail.gmail.com>

OEVAers,
Thursday at the walk-around before the meeting, Dan Dement mentioned that he
has a contact for some batteries and said it was OK for me to post this.

He knows of some that were used in a UPS for two years - floated and not
cycled so should have good life left.  They are large 12v AGM units that
weigh 107 lbs each.  Labeled 12SV500, there are about 35 of them available
at $150 each.

Dan's number is 541-686-3188 if you are interested.  I think he is in the
Eugene area.

Hope someone finds this useful.

Mike
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From john.p.christian at intel.com  Sat Sep 11 13:59:13 2010
From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:59:13 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
Message-ID: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E65@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>

Please take note of this dealer's pricing. These guys are the only ones I've seen who are adding dealer markup.



From: Joel Fowler [mailto:JFowler at tonkin.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 08:43 AM
To: Christian, John P
Subject: Leaf pricing for OEVA members

Good morning John, hope all is well with you.   In light of all the pricing rumors, we have decided  to sell all members at dealer invoice.  Please let me know how this will work.  We appreciate all you have done for us at Wilsonville Nissan and will continue to help in anyway possible.  Will you be able to get this new pricing out to all members?
Thanks John, I look forward to your reply.
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From bilquistmrsj at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 14:38:30 2010
From: bilquistmrsj at yahoo.com (Christine Jeibmann)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Oeva-list] 2008 ZAP Xebra PK for sale!!  $4800
In-Reply-To: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E65@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
Message-ID: <745585.23236.qm@web52508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have been teetering about selling Big Red or not..... ?Simply put, I do not drive her enough and even though she is so inexpensive to keep she is not doing much good just sitting in the garage..... ?Let me know if you are interested or want to take a look at her!!!!! ?
Asking $4850.00.?
Purchased June 2008 for $12,000 from Eco-Motion -- I have original paperwork.?
about 4300 ZAP miles
Fire Engine Red
AM/FM/CD/Ipod?
Spray-on Bedliner
On Board Charger
Heater
upgraded to 84 volts (7 batteries) in July 2008 ($900) -- Thank you Shorepower!!?

Gently used and always garaged. I can travel from Milwaukie to Downtown Portland comfortably on a charge. Maximum speed 42 mph.?

Pros/Con combined:?
3 wheeled vehicle so only requires motorcycle tags which are inexpensive.?
Motorcycle insurance -- full coverage only costs me $200 A YEAR through Progressive!!?
No airbags / crumple zones.?
Made in China -- expect not the best quality but it is decent enough!!?
Seriously only costs about .02 cents per mile to operate!!?
LOW MAINTENANCE!!?
NOT freeway legal but is expressway legal and I can keep up with traffic on McLoughlin Blvd / Grand Ave.


      
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From matwete at comcast.net  Sat Sep 11 16:54:42 2010
From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:54:42 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] storage and show possibilities for my 1920 Milburn
	Light Electric
In-Reply-To: <745585.23236.qm@web52508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E65@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
	<745585.23236.qm@web52508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004201cb520c$b5bf7620$213e6260$@net>

I don't drive my 1920 Milburn Light Electric much.

And so the storage costs at the facility I keep it in eat more into my
wallet than I'd like.

If anyone has any suggestions or knows of someone who has a showroom or
other space that having this car on display might help their business, I'm
all ears.  I still want to keep the car, keep improving it and get it out to
events several times a year.  I just would like to save some money.

Our location: SE Portland.

 

-Myles Twete

www.evalbum.com/348

 

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From john.p.christian at intel.com  Sat Sep 11 19:04:33 2010
From: john.p.christian at intel.com (Christian, John P)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:04:33 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
In-Reply-To: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E65@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
Message-ID: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E66@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>

Let me be more clear - they do not add in any dealer mark up.

Thanks,
John


From: Christian, John P [mailto:john.p.christian at intel.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 01:59 PM
To: 'oeva-list at oeva.org' <oeva-list at oeva.org>
Cc: 'JFowler at tonkin.com' <JFowler at tonkin.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members

Please take note of this dealer's pricing. These guys are the only ones I've seen who are adding dealer markup.



From: Joel Fowler [mailto:JFowler at tonkin.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 08:43 AM
To: Christian, John P
Subject: Leaf pricing for OEVA members

Good morning John, hope all is well with you.   In light of all the pricing rumors, we have decided  to sell all members at dealer invoice.  Please let me know how this will work.  We appreciate all you have done for us at Wilsonville Nissan and will continue to help in anyway possible.  Will you be able to get this new pricing out to all members?
Thanks John, I look forward to your reply.
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 11 19:14:07 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:14:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
In-Reply-To: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E66@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
References: <7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E65@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
	<7C88852EF6F99F4EB538472FCFEBE222013A885E66@orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpjeNKrTHxtu8DJtTqkHhOM_qFFo1rKZ52TMCv@mail.gmail.com>

That is great Joel. I will be getting my LEAF from Wilsonville!

Can you please let us know the dealer invoice price for each model? I expect
this will save me well over a thousand dollars.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Christian, John P <
john.p.christian at intel.com> wrote:

>  Let me be more clear - they do not add in any dealer mark up.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
>  *From*: Christian, John P [mailto:john.p.christian at intel.com]
> *Sent*: Saturday, September 11, 2010 01:59 PM
> *To*: 'oeva-list at oeva.org' <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> *Cc*: 'JFowler at tonkin.com' <JFowler at tonkin.com>
> *Subject*: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
>
>  Please take note of this dealer's pricing. These guys are the only ones
> I've seen who are adding dealer markup.
>
>
>
>  *From*: Joel Fowler [mailto:JFowler at tonkin.com]
> *Sent*: Saturday, September 11, 2010 08:43 AM
> *To*: Christian, John P
> *Subject*: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
>
> Good morning John, hope all is well with you.   In light of all the pricing
> rumors, we have decided  to sell all members at dealer invoice.  Please let
> me know how this will work.  We appreciate all you have done for us at
> Wilsonville Nissan and will continue to help in anyway possible.  Will you
> be able to get this new pricing out to all members?
> Thanks John, I look forward to your reply.
>
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From gary at greenlivingjournal.com  Sat Sep 11 19:30:32 2010
From: gary at greenlivingjournal.com (Gary Munkhoff)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:30:32 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Drive Electric Tour
Message-ID: <4C8C3B48.80302@greenlivingjournal.com>

  On the Nissan Leaf website there is a page where you can enter your 
email address to be notified when you can register to drive a Leaf at 
Solar World in Hillsboro on November 5,6,& 7th.

https://www.drivenissanleaf.com/Event/EventDetails.aspx?eid=13

Has anybody tried to register or actually been registered?

Gary

-- 
Don't Buy - Don't Drill

Gary Munkhoff, Editor&  Publisher
Green Living Journal
P.O. Box 677
Cascade Locks, OR 97014
541.374.5454



From chris at darkstarpro.com  Sat Sep 11 20:15:09 2010
From: chris at darkstarpro.com (Chris Arnesen)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:15:09 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan Drive Electric Tour
In-Reply-To: <4C8C3B48.80302@greenlivingjournal.com>
References: <4C8C3B48.80302@greenlivingjournal.com>
Message-ID: <4C8C45BD.6080605@darkstarpro.com>

  Hey Gary,

Registration isn't open yet for anyone for the Portland test drive. If 
you enter your email in there, they will send an email blast out stating 
that registration is open.

The test drives will be at Solarworld in Hillsboro, right off of 
Evergreen Parkway and Brookwood Avenue. I'll definitely be there, 
especially since it's just a couple miles north of where I live!

--Chris

On 9/11/2010 7:30 PM, Gary Munkhoff wrote:
>    On the Nissan Leaf website there is a page where you can enter your
> email address to be notified when you can register to drive a Leaf at
> Solar World in Hillsboro on November 5,6,&  7th.
>
> https://www.drivenissanleaf.com/Event/EventDetails.aspx?eid=13
>
> Has anybody tried to register or actually been registered?
>
> Gary
>
>
>
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From salzmande at comcast.net  Sat Sep 11 22:54:25 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:54:25 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
References: <AANLkTimpjeNKrTHxtu8DJtTqkHhOM_qFFo1rKZ52TMCv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A6313042-9179-45ED-A7BC-75909DA5E83E@comcast.net>

Pat,

That info. can be found on mynissanleaf.com.

Dave

Begin forwarded message:

> From: patrick0101 at gmail.com
> Date: September 11, 2010 7:14:07 PM PDT
> To: "Christian, John P" <john.p.christian at intel.com>, "oeva-list at oeva.org 
> " <oeva-list at oeva.org>, "JFowler at tonkin.com" <JFowler at tonkin.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
>
> That is great Joel. I will be getting my LEAF from Wilsonville!
>
> Can you please let us know the dealer invoice price for each model?  
> I expect this will save me well over a thousand dollars.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Christian, John P <john.p.christian at intel.com 
> > wrote:
> Let me be more clear - they do not add in any dealer mark up.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
> From: Christian, John P [mailto:john.p.christian at intel.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 01:59 PM
> To: 'oeva-list at oeva.org' <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> Cc: 'JFowler at tonkin.com' <JFowler at tonkin.com>
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
>
> Please take note of this dealer's pricing. These guys are the only  
> ones I've seen who are adding dealer markup.
>
>
>
> From: Joel Fowler [mailto:JFowler at tonkin.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 08:43 AM
> To: Christian, John P
> Subject: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
>
> Good morning John, hope all is well with you.   In light of all the  
> pricing rumors, we have decided  to sell all members at dealer  
> invoice.  Please let me know how this will work.  We appreciate all  
> you have done for us at Wilsonville Nissan and will continue to help  
> in anyway possible.  Will you be able to get this new pricing out to  
> all members?
> Thanks John, I look forward to your reply.
>
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From bbmdw9mnrq at snkmail.com  Sun Sep 12 08:44:56 2010
From: bbmdw9mnrq at snkmail.com (Steve Bonds)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:44:56 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
In-Reply-To: <A6313042-9179-45ED-A7BC-75909DA5E83E@comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTimpjeNKrTHxtu8DJtTqkHhOM_qFFo1rKZ52TMCv@mail.gmail.com>
	<A6313042-9179-45ED-A7BC-75909DA5E83E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <14928-1284306296-625068@sneakemail.com>

More specifically, here:

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1022
(embedded image link: http://img27.imageshack.us/i/leafpricing.png/)

Or for the very lazy, below:

SV: $31,394
SL:$32,293

  -- Steve

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Dave Salzman
salzmande-at-comcast.net |oeva-list/****************|
<55ke6lsiot at sneakemail.com> wrote:
> Pat,
> That info. can be found on mynissanleaf.com.
> Dave
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: patrick0101 at gmail.com
> Date: September 11, 2010 7:14:07 PM PDT
> To: "Christian, John P" <john.p.christian at intel.com>, "oeva-list at oeva.org"
> <oeva-list at oeva.org>, "JFowler at tonkin.com" <JFowler at tonkin.com>
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
> That is great Joel. I will be getting my LEAF from Wilsonville!
> Can you please let us know the dealer invoice price for each model? I expect
> this will save me well over a thousand dollars.
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Christian, John P
> <john.p.christian at intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> Let me be more clear - they do not add in any dealer mark up.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>> From: Christian, John P [mailto:john.p.christian at intel.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 01:59 PM
>> To: 'oeva-list at oeva.org' <oeva-list at oeva.org>
>> Cc: 'JFowler at tonkin.com' <JFowler at tonkin.com>
>> Subject: [Oeva-list] Fw: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
>>
>> Please take note of this dealer's pricing. These guys are the only ones
>> I've seen who are adding dealer markup.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Joel Fowler [mailto:JFowler at tonkin.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 08:43 AM
>> To: Christian, John P
>> Subject: Leaf pricing for OEVA members
>>
>> Good morning John, hope all is well with you.?? In light of all the
>> pricing rumors, we have decided? to sell all members at dealer invoice..
>> Please let me know how this will work.? We appreciate all you have done for
>> us at Wilsonville Nissan and will continue to help in anyway possible.? Will
>> you be able to get this new pricing out to all members?
>> Thanks John, I look forward to your reply.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Oeva-list at oeva.org
>> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
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From cje at hevanet.com  Mon Sep 13 07:34:22 2010
From: cje at hevanet.com (cje at hevanet.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:34:22 GMT
Subject: [Oeva-list] Pak Trakr -- what the heck?
Message-ID: <201009131434.o8DEYMuq096864@broadway.hevanet.com>

I've been driving my 08 ZAP pickup around now for, what, a year and a 
half. I use it on short hops. I live around I205/Powell, and the furthest 
I've ever gone is downtown to an OEVA function. It charged for about two 
hours while there then I drove home no problem. Mostly I go around ten 
miles a hop, or around there. Lately the batteries are getting tired, as 
batteries are wont to do. (I suspect that while it sat in the showroom for 
a year before I bought it, they weren't kept meticulously charged.)

I have the Pak Trakr stuff on there -- supposed to even out the charging, 
and monitor each battery's performance. Now, I KNOW the batteries are 
getting tired -- ten miles is a LOT for this little rig to go anymore, and 
that didn't used to be the case -- so why, does anyone know, does my Pak 
Trakr display insist that all is right with the batteries? I can drive 
till the thing is almost dead, limp home on total impulse power, and look 
at the display and, yup, it'll tell me the batteries are all fully charged 
and normal. The display doesn't change regardless of the charge state of 
the batteries. What cooks? Did I hook it up wrong or something? Anyone 
seen this? 

Thanks in advance -- 
Curt
Erickson



From salzmande at comcast.net  Mon Sep 13 13:04:19 2010
From: salzmande at comcast.net (Dave Salzman)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:04:19 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote
Message-ID: <0E73AE6A-932F-4891-B780-5709E5665288@comcast.net>


Hi All,

Here's the latest chapter in the ongoing saga of AV EVSE quotes. A/O  
9-13-10  10:30 AM

custom installation    ( 3 feet of # 8 )    $1040????????
charging dock, wall mount, 25' cable    $721.12
permit & processing					$80.00
shipping & delivery					$49.95
total								    $1891.07

I,m on their list to just buy the dock and have my own installer mount  
it. The 36 month warranty changes from a full one to a dock side only,  
which means if it breaks I will have to send it to them, paying the  
freight both ways.
There's more EVSE manufactures coming on line all the time so I think  
I will just wait and see what looks best down the line.

Stay Well,

Dave





From chris at darkstarpro.com  Mon Sep 13 14:13:00 2010
From: chris at darkstarpro.com (chris at darkstarpro.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:13:00 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote
Message-ID: <380-22010911321130811@M2W138.mail2web.com>

Yep, I would dump AV and pick up the EV2104 from EV-Charge America
(http://www.ev-chargeamerica.com/products_ev2104.html) for $650 and have a
local electrician install it.

I'm working on inquiring to purchase one as soon as possible, but
apparently they're pretty busy with orders... :-)

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Dave Salzman salzmande at comcast.net
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:04:19 -0700
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote



Hi All,

Here's the latest chapter in the ongoing saga of AV EVSE quotes. A/O  
9-13-10  10:30 AM

custom installation    ( 3 feet of # 8 )    $1040????????
charging dock, wall mount, 25' cable    $721.12
permit & processing					$80.00
shipping & delivery					$49.95
total								    $1891.07

I,m on their list to just buy the dock and have my own installer mount  
it. The 36 month warranty changes from a full one to a dock side only,  
which means if it breaks I will have to send it to them, paying the  
freight both ways.
There's more EVSE manufactures coming on line all the time so I think  
I will just wait and see what looks best down the line.

Stay Well,

Dave

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From dimakukushkin at gmail.com  Mon Sep 13 14:58:53 2010
From: dimakukushkin at gmail.com (D K)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:58:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote
In-Reply-To: <380-22010911321130811@M2W138.mail2web.com>
References: <380-22010911321130811@M2W138.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikta4Og=m-6E88VvGjpcK8UtFfr2dWTjJSKQ2Nd@mail.gmail.com>

What is in this box for a typical car owner, except extension cord with
plug?
Maybe also a small microcontroller worth $10 to send signal to EV brain.

Just trying to justify even $650 price to myself. Something tells me there
must be fool_EVs_brain kits available on ebay when time comes, for $5


Dmitry





On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:13 PM, chris at darkstarpro.com <
chris at darkstarpro.com> wrote:

> Yep, I would dump AV and pick up the EV2104 from EV-Charge America
> (http://www.ev-chargeamerica.com/products_ev2104.html) for $650 and have a
> local electrician install it.
>
> I'm working on inquiring to purchase one as soon as possible, but
> apparently they're pretty busy with orders... :-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris Arnesen
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Dave Salzman salzmande at comcast.net
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:04:19 -0700
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here's the latest chapter in the ongoing saga of AV EVSE quotes. A/O
> 9-13-10  10:30 AM
>
> custom installation    ( 3 feet of # 8 )    $1040????????
> charging dock, wall mount, 25' cable    $721.12
> permit & processing                                     $80.00
> shipping & delivery                                     $49.95
> total
> $1891.07
>
> I,m on their list to just buy the dock and have my own installer mount
> it. The 36 month warranty changes from a full one to a dock side only,
> which means if it breaks I will have to send it to them, paying the
> freight both ways.
> There's more EVSE manufactures coming on line all the time so I think
> I will just wait and see what looks best down the line.
>
> Stay Well,
>
> Dave
>
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From chris at darkstarpro.com  Mon Sep 13 16:17:06 2010
From: chris at darkstarpro.com (chris at darkstarpro.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:17:06 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote
Message-ID: <380-22010911323176598@M2W130.mail2web.com>

In a nutshell, the big expense is the J1772 connector, cable and 240 volt
relay.

12 volts runs from the EVSE to the car where a resistor drops down the
voltage to ~6 volts and goes back to the EVSE to let it know a car is
connected and doesn't need ventilation to charge. The EVSE then sends a PWM
signal through the same pin to tell the car the maximum amperage it may
draw and activates a 240 volt relay in the EVSE.

If the PWM signal changes during the charge process, the vehicle is
required to dynamically change its amperage draw or stop charging. If
anything happens to that control pin connection, the EVSE is required to
open the 240 volt relay to stop charging and de-energize the connector.

Personally, I believe the relay is unnecessary for a portable cable, so
you're just left with the J1772 connector and cable, plus whatever is
required to send 12 volts over a pin with a PWM signal.

Maybe we should create an OEVA subgroup to design a kit to do just that? I
would love to assist with the marketing and sales of such a kit, I just
don't have enough experience with electronics to do the PWM portion... :-)

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

Original Message:
-----------------
From: D K dimakukushkin at gmail.com
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:58:53 -0700
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote


What is in this box for a typical car owner, except extension cord with
plug?
Maybe also a small microcontroller worth $10 to send signal to EV brain.

Just trying to justify even $650 price to myself. Something tells me there
must be fool_EVs_brain kits available on ebay when time comes, for $5


Dmitry





On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:13 PM, chris at darkstarpro.com <
chris at darkstarpro.com> wrote:

> Yep, I would dump AV and pick up the EV2104 from EV-Charge America
> (http://www.ev-chargeamerica.com/products_ev2104.html) for $650 and have a
> local electrician install it.
>
> I'm working on inquiring to purchase one as soon as possible, but
> apparently they're pretty busy with orders... :-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris Arnesen
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Dave Salzman salzmande at comcast.net
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:04:19 -0700
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Latest AV quote
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here's the latest chapter in the ongoing saga of AV EVSE quotes. A/O
> 9-13-10  10:30 AM
>
> custom installation    ( 3 feet of # 8 )    $1040????????
> charging dock, wall mount, 25' cable    $721.12
> permit & processing                                     $80.00
> shipping & delivery                                     $49.95
> total
> $1891.07
>
> I,m on their list to just buy the dock and have my own installer mount
> it. The 36 month warranty changes from a full one to a dock side only,
> which means if it breaks I will have to send it to them, paying the
> freight both ways.
> There's more EVSE manufactures coming on line all the time so I think
> I will just wait and see what looks best down the line.
>
> Stay Well,
>
> Dave

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From nscale7 at aol.com  Mon Sep 13 18:54:37 2010
From: nscale7 at aol.com (Chase Ballew)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:54:37 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] Pak Trakr -- what the heck?
In-Reply-To: <201009131434.o8DEYMuq096864@broadway.hevanet.com>
References: <201009131434.o8DEYMuq096864@broadway.hevanet.com>
Message-ID: <8CD21C6EC0B0D5F-E84-5001@Webmail-d115.sysops.aol.com>


When you say the display doesn?t change, are you referring to the voltage display, or the State Of Charge display? 
 
If you are referring to the SOC indicator, do you have the current sensor attachment to measure amps in addition to volts? You must understand the SOC display is a relative driving aid, and is not a particularly sophisticated unit, so a level of inaccuracy is to be expected, however it is possible the computer has become confused. Begin by re-crimping the terminal lugs on the PakTraker leads as some units have been found to have faulty crimp connections. Recharge until the charger shuts off, then reset the PakTrakr by disconnecting the black wire from the most-negative battery terminal, waiting a few seconds, then reconnecting. Many users have installed a switch on this wire to make servicing easier. Then reset the SOC indicator for your battery type; Flooded, AGM, GEL, etc. The SOC indicator will now likely read 100%. Drive the vehicle, then recharge. If after several cycles the problem persists, swap the most-negative battery with a different battery. The PakTrakr operates on power from the most-negative battery ONLY, so problems with this battery can cause unreliable behavior. If problems continue to persist, the unit may need factory recalibration; contact PakTrakr customer service.
 
If you are referring to the voltage indicator, use a handheld multi-meter to measure the battery voltages manually and compare to the PakTraker display. Minor discrepancies should be expected due to rounding. For larger discrepancies, verify that the battery cables are in good condition, as the PakTraker will blame voltage drop in the traction cables as being a battery problem. Re-crimp the terminal lugs on the PakTraker leads as some units have been found to have faulty crimp connections which can cause faulty voltage readings. Recharge, then disconnect the black wire from the most-negative battery terminal, wait a few seconds, then reconnect to reset. Re-check the voltage readings with the multi-meter and if large discrepancies remain, swap the most-negative battery with a different battery. The PakTrakr operates on power from the most-negative battery ONLY, so problems with this battery can cause unreliable behavior. If problems continue to persist, the unit may need factory recalibration; contact PakTrakr customer service.
 
Also, please clarify what you mean by ?Pak Trakr stuff.? The Pac Traker will NOT even out charging, it is only a monitoring system; it can tell you what is happening, but it is powerless to do anything about it itself. If you have shunts or balancers, these will be separate units unrelated to the Pak Trakr.
 
Regarding the drop in range, there are various things to check. If you have the current sensor, compare amp draw to when you first got the vehicle, if it has gone up you have a problem. Inspect all battery terminals and other connections on BOTH the high voltage traction wiring AND the charging circuit. Remove corrosion and tighten as needed, replace any damaged or melted cables (note: the stock Xebra has undersized traction cables, replacing with a larger size will improve performance and range.) A high resistance connection on the traction circuit will cause more power to be consumed for less distance, a high resistance connection on the charging circuit will trick the charger into thinking it is fully charged when it is not. Inspect the brakes, both the hand brake and foot brake, to ensure they are not dragging, as this will increase power consumption and decrease range. Jack up the vehicle and rotate the wheels by hand; the front wheel should spin freely, the rear wheels (both need to be off the ground) should make a full revolution before stopping. The hand brake cable (rear wheels only) can stretch over time, and can be user adjusted, while the foot brake (all wheels) will need professional servicing. 
 
Also, verify that the correct charging algorithm is being used. If the charger inadvertently got reset to a different algorithm, then the batteries may not be getting a full charge. 
 
Use great care to ensure that the batteries are not over-discharged. A single over-discharge with AGM batteries will destroy them, making them poorly suited to EVs; GEL batteries are more resilient to over-discharge, but it still isn?t healthy.
 
Let us know if this helps, or if problems continue, as there is additional advice that can be offered. Also, you may want to check the Yahoo Xebra_EV forum, as there are a lot of people there  knowledgable specifically about the Xebra.
 
Good Luck,
-ChaseB
?06 Zap Xebra PK (with solar)



 
Let us know if this helps, or if problems continue, as there is additional advice that can be offered. Also, you may want to check the Yahoo Xebra_EV forum, as there are a lot of people there  knowledgable specifically about the Xebra.
 
Good Luck,
-ChaseB
?06 Zap Xebra PK (with solar)






-----Original Message-----
From: cje at hevanet.com
To: Christine Jeibmann <bilquistmrsj at yahoo.com>; oeva-list at oeva.org
Sent: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 7:34 am
Subject: [Oeva-list] Pak Trakr -- what the heck?


I've been driving my 08 ZAP pickup around now for, what, a year and a 
alf. I use it on short hops. I live around I205/Powell, and the furthest 
've ever gone is downtown to an OEVA function. It charged for about two 
ours while there then I drove home no problem. Mostly I go around ten 
iles a hop, or around there. Lately the batteries are getting tired, as 
atteries are wont to do. (I suspect that while it sat in the showroom for 
 year before I bought it, they weren't kept meticulously charged.)
I have the Pak Trakr stuff on there -- supposed to even out the charging, 
nd monitor each battery's performance. Now, I KNOW the batteries are 
etting tired -- ten miles is a LOT for this little rig to go anymore, and 
hat didn't used to be the case -- so why, does anyone know, does my Pak 
rakr display insist that all is right with the batteries? I can drive 
ill the thing is almost dead, limp home on total impulse power, and look 
t the display and, yup, it'll tell me the batteries are all fully charged 
nd normal. The display doesn't change regardless of the charge state of 
he batteries. What cooks? Did I hook it up wrong or something? Anyone 
een this? 
Thanks in advance -- 
urt
rickson

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From ken at peakfoto.com  Thu Sep 16 09:26:37 2010
From: ken at peakfoto.com (Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:26:37 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] lipo banding..
Message-ID: <C774480DA306485CA77BB3DD0011B8EC.MAI@exovian.net>

 I'm testing some battereis and am here in corvalls and want to know of anyone or place to get batteries banded or other ideas
of how to much pressure , or other ways to do this , especially sence I'm doing short term testing before long term instaltion .


From plskeggs at noeticdesign.com  Thu Sep 16 10:14:05 2010
From: plskeggs at noeticdesign.com (Pete Skeggs)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:14:05 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Used Deka Dominator Battery
Message-ID: <4C92505D.3050000@noeticdesign.com>

  Hi,

I think the answer is, just recycle it, but, if anyone has a need for a 
Deka Dominator 8G31DTM GEL deep cycle lead-acid battery (from my Zenn 
NEV), it's yours for the asking.  It was weaker than the others in the 
set of 6.

-Pete



From mbutts at ieee.org  Thu Sep 16 12:16:49 2010
From: mbutts at ieee.org (Mike Butts)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:16:49 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Automotive X Prize winners
Message-ID: <AANLkTimWAaAsN2G_tKNSeEFZhFAhC4h2YJxO93=ekDv3@mail.gmail.com>

Winners to be announced Thursday morning, here's the NYT
story.<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/16/automobiles/16WINNERS.html>
Check out the slide show for
pictures<http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/09/16/automobiles/20100916-xprize.html>
.
Plus more in their car
blog<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/16/automobiles/16WINNER-SIDE.html>,
with a nice photo of the side-by-side EV winner, Li-Ion Motors, from NASCAR
country!

  --Mike

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From john.p.christian at gmail.com  Thu Sep 16 13:30:37 2010
From: john.p.christian at gmail.com (John Christian)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:30:37 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] [seva] High Quality Photos Up - Hi Def Videos
	Coming Soon
In-Reply-To: <MMLID_8584-4C92376A.5080904@plasmaboyracing.com>
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:27 AM, John Wayland <jw at plasmaboyracing.com>wrote:

> Hello to All,
>
> From Rich Brown's post (featured at 'Wayland's Words' on the web site):
>
> You walk up to the Zombie in the pits and there is a team of people around
> the car - two people pouring over battery data on a laptop, another pluging
> in the charger, another handling the charger and spider box, there is a
> dedicated videographer and dedicated still photographer.
>
>
> We are very fortunate to have a dedicated videographer and our newest
> inducted member of the Plasma Boy team, J Bills. He's got hi def coverage of
> everything from this past weekend's historic and wild runs, from in-car
> camera footage of 'Cool Hand Luke' Tim Brehm's superior driving while
> wrestling an out-of-control Zombie down from near 100 mph spin-out, to
> up-close camera captures of the 500+ hp Hemi Chargers getting blown away, to
> crowd reaction and crazy hi stress repairs in the pit action. It will be
> great stuff - but we'll have to wait a few more days as it's all being
> edited. In the meantime, it's great to see other videos popping up.
>
> Our other new team member is Carol Brown. Most everyone already knows her
> as the skilled track photographer who's outstanding still photography is all
> over the web site and featured in the many magazine stories we've had over
> the past couple of years. I've received this from her:
>
>   Hi Everyone!
>
> All of the photos are up from our EVentful, record-breaking weekend of
> racing at P.I.R.!  You can go here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/PIRPhotogal
>
> or there is a link on the Portlandraceway.com Website, on the MainPage,
> under "Quick Links," on the left side, part way down, and under "Drag Race
> Photos."  You should be able to list the Website under "Favorites" or
> "Bookmarks," on your browser, so it is easier to find?  There are about 2000
> photos (some of the regular racers) so it could keep you busy for awhile...
> (^:  You should be able to download any photos you want.  I've printed a 4x6
> inch photo from the Website.  John will be getting a DVD of all of the EV
> racing, in full resolution.  If any of you need a full rez photo(s), please
> let me know and I can e-mail it that way.  (^:
>
> Again, I've left in some of the blurry photos, since the often tell part of
> the story.  (^:
>
> Take care!  (^: Carol
>
>
>
> A huge thank you again, to all who have been a part of this push into the
> 10s! I am working on a new section of the web page 'Team PlasmaBoy' empty on
> content for now, but that will soon change with an open weekend to work on
> things.
>
> See Ya...John 'Plasma Boy' Wayland
>
>
>
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From ken at peakfoto.com  Fri Sep 17 10:04:21 2010
From: ken at peakfoto.com (Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:04:21 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] electric motorcycle for sale
Message-ID: <388C89FF46BA4F6095980972E08974EF.MAI@exovian.net>

 I've convertted a honda 350 to electric .
It has 48 volt etek, 400 amp alltrax controller, 4 sears large agm (platuim batteres ) private labeled Odyssey Batteries.

this could be a good canidate for lipos.

I got a evt american scooter, its mujch more use able for every day.

I like the EV bike for more for thrill riding. it's acclerates strongly withe 400 amp cotroller turned all the way up..

I have pics to send. I'm in corvallis oregon.


From david at synkromotive.com  Sat Sep 18 13:07:22 2010
From: david at synkromotive.com (David Boyd)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:07:22 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Bug-e vehicle for sale
Message-ID: <4DD37180-8021-47D5-9860-7F63084F39C3@synkromotive.com>

Hi all, I have a Bug-e designed by Mark Murphy in Oregon for sale. It was # 7 in his production. We used it for testing AC motors, and now no longer need it. See the listing at http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcy/1961111129.html

Feel free to contact me with any questions.
David Boyd
SynkroMotive, LLC
503.544.8396
david at synkromotive.com

www.synkromotive.com

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 18 21:00:28 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:00:28 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Auto X-Prize
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=0Uo81h1gJM1h0SB9yW2-SNr=AgjRAmW6HoiuM@mail.gmail.com>

The winners are announced, here is the full video of the prize
award ceremony there were a couple of really good speakers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVERUtcvkYM

Regards,
Pat
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 19 00:04:32 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:04:32 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] OMSI Solar Powered EV Charging Station
Message-ID: <AANLkTikNf67k7peVAM1bCo+0K8qNZXNrdh4xLVfU0uF2@mail.gmail.com>

pictures on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=229149&id=138510433019
<http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=229149&id=138510433019>
Regards,
Pat
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 20:54:07 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:54:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Washington and Oregon jockey for plug-in leadship
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=DiGf7asFM4KrsAVJ54Z-VjZPBJMwgnDLA4Jw3@mail.gmail.com>

http://blogs.pluginamerica.org/outreach/2010/09/washington-and-oregon-jockey-for-plug-in-leadship.html
<http://blogs.pluginamerica.org/outreach/2010/09/washington-and-oregon-jockey-for-plug-in-leadship.html>
Regards,
Pat
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From jon at photodad.com  Wed Sep 22 08:30:58 2010
From: jon at photodad.com (Jon Balgley)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:30:58 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: FW: NEWS ADVISORY: Governor to Speak on Economy
 and Unveil New EV Infrastructure Plans for Oregon
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FYI:



-------- Original Message --------

*Subject: *

NEWS ADVISORY: Governor to Speak on Economy and Unveil New EV Infrastructure
Plans for Oregon

*Date: *

Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:51:36 -0700

*From: *

GOV Press <governors.press at state.or.us> <governors.press at state.or.us>




  * *

* *

*Theodore R. Kulongoski*

*          Governor*



* *

*FOR NEWS PLANNING*

*September 21, 2010*



Contact:
Anna Richter Taylor, 503-378-6169

Jodi Sherwood, 503-378-6496



*Governor Kulongoski to Participate in Economic Forum in Portland &*

*Unveil New Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Plan for Oregon*

* *

*(Salem) *? Tomorrow Governor Ted Kulongoski will join former governors Vic
Atiyeh and Barbara Roberts for a forum hosted by the Portland Business
Journal to discuss the economic and budget challenges facing Oregon and some
options for creating greater stability and certainty for the state budget
and overall economy.



Following the forum, Governor Kulongoski will join ECOtality to unveil its
plan for the installation for electric vehicle charging stations in Oregon
and announce a new commitment from the State to advance the work of
ECOtality and other private companies investing in this infrastructure and
in Oregon.

* *

*WHAT:*           Portland Business Journal Power Breakfast Economic Forum

* *

*WHO:*             Governor Ted Kulongoski and former governors Vic Atiyeh
and Barbara Roberts



*WHEN:*           Wednesday, September 22, 2010

                        7:30 a.m.



*WHERE:        *Governor Hotel

SW 11th Avenue

Portland, Oregon



***





*WHAT:*           Unveiling ECOtality?s Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Plan

* *

*WHO:             *Governor Ted Kulongoski* *and ECOtality

* *

*WHEN:*           Wednesday, September 22, 2010

10:00 am



*WHERE:*        200 SW Market Street Building

Portland, Oregon



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From plskeggs at noeticdesign.com  Wed Sep 22 08:32:03 2010
From: plskeggs at noeticdesign.com (Pete Skeggs)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:32:03 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Used Deka Dominator Battery
In-Reply-To: <4C92505D.3050000@noeticdesign.com>
References: <4C92505D.3050000@noeticdesign.com>
Message-ID: <4C9A2173.5070705@noeticdesign.com>

  The battery is now spoken for.  Thanks for all the inquiries.
-Pete

On 9/16/2010 10:14 AM, Pete Skeggs wrote:
> I think the answer is, just recycle it, but, if anyone has a need for a Deka Dominator 8G31DTM GEL deep cycle lead-acid battery (from my Zenn NEV), it's yours for the asking.  It was weaker than the others in the set of 6.
>
> -Pete



From phil.hochstetler at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 08:35:02 2010
From: phil.hochstetler at gmail.com (phil hochstetler)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:35:02 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=CgfnHjTALhXMXFD1Do+AAM7mOm8W0Qh+E+F41@mail.gmail.com>

A reasonable priced ($236) J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter is now
available as Ebay item number is 260667699877.
The EVDL post with more info is at

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/J1772-to-NEMA-14-50-adaptors-for-sale-on-eBay-tp2549687p2549687.html

As the J1772 chargers become more common, this could be very useful
for those of us with non J1772 electric vehicles.
--phil


From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 20:29:07 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:29:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: ECOtality reveals EV infrastructure plan for
	Western Oregon
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Date: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:00 AM
Subject: ECOtality reveals EV infrastructure plan for Western Oregon


    [image: ECOtality - a renewable energy development
company]<http://ecotality.createsend1.com/t/y/l/cskuy/biuktdrty/r>
ECOtality reveals EV infrastructure plan for Western Oregon

*More than 1,000 Blink charging stations will charge up
electric vehicles in Portland and other key metropolitan areas*

*PORTLAND, ORE. ? Wednesday, September 22, 2010* ? ECOtality,
Inc<http://ecotality.createsend1.com/t/y/l/cskuy/biuktdrty/y>.
(NASDAQ:ECTY <http://ecotality.createsend1.com/t/y/l/cskuy/biuktdrty/j>), a
leader in clean electric transportation and storage technologies, today
unveiled its Blink electric vehicle charging station as well as blueprints
for electric vehicle (EV) infrastructure deployment in four major
metropolitan areas in Northwestern Oregon: Portland, Salem, Corvallis and
Eugene. The announcement marks the completion of a critical milestone in the
planning process for The EV
Project<http://ecotality.createsend1.com/t/y/l/cskuy/biuktdrty/t>,
the largest rollout of EV infrastructure in the world. As part of the
project, ECOtality will install more than 1,100 publicly available chargers
throughout the region.

ECOtality worked closely with its Oregon Advisory Team and area
stakeholders?including Pacificorp, the newest EV Project partner?to complete
deployment guidelines and develop maps showing potential charging site
locations and density. The maps were created using criteria developed during
the Micro-Climate? process and take into consideration a variety of factors,
including transportation routes, employment centers and zoning.
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*ECOtality completes charging density/distribution map for EV Project
locations in Northwestern Oregon. ECOtality will install more than 1,100
publicly available chargers statewide. (Pictured: Portland Metro Area)*

?I have long known that Oregon was the right state to launch this next
generation of vehicles and show the rest of the country that we can make
this transition without inconveniencing or pricing regular citizens out of
this market,? said Governor Ted Kulongoski. ?With today?s announcement, we
are taking that next step forward toward making electric cars ? and the
supporting infrastructure ? available, affordable and accessible to
Oregonians across the state.?

?Today, Oregon is ready to emerge as a pioneer in electric vehicle
adoption,? said Jonathan Read, President and CEO of ECOtality. ?The support
of our advisory group has provided invaluable research, and allowed us to
develop a smart plan for the installation of EV infrastructure that suits
the needs of Oregon?s future EV drivers. By coupling our plans with the
capabilities of Blink, we are creating the rich charge infrastructure needed
to make electric vehicles a reality.?

The four Oregon cities were selected as host sites for The EV Project in
2009, and will play a critical role in developing a rich charging
infrastructure for EV drivers. ECOtality coordinated with the state to
develop an advisory team including representatives from state and local
government agencies and utilities.

?Throughout the EV Project, ECOtality is developing more calculated methods
to prepare cities and regional areas for an EV infrastructure foundation,?
stated Don Karner, President of ECOtality North America. ?With each
blueprint ECOtality creates, we are able to move forward in paving the way
for the national rollout of electric vehicles.?

ECOtality is the project manager for The EV Project, and is tasked with
supervising the construction of the largest deployment of EV infrastructure
to date. The $230 million public-private initiative is funded with a $114.8
million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy through the American
Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA). The EV Project includes 16 states and
major metropolitan areas, and will result in the installation of over 15,000
charging stations, over the course of three years.

The Oregon Advisory Team includes representatives from the Building Codes
Division; City of Corvallis; City of Eugene; City of Gresham; City of Salem;
Eugene Water & Electric Board; Oregon Department of Transportation; Oregon
Business Development Department; Oregon Department of Energy; Oregon
Transportation Research and Education Consortium; Pacific Power; Portland
Development Commission; Portland General Electric; Salem Electric; and the
Unviersity of Oregon.


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*About ECOtality, Inc.*

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(NASDAQ:ECTY<http://ecotality.createsend1.com/t/y/l/cskuy/biuktdrty/h>),
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.

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From matwete at comcast.net  Thu Sep 23 08:20:59 2010
From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:20:59 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=CgfnHjTALhXMXFD1Do+AAM7mOm8W0Qh+E+F41@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=CgfnHjTALhXMXFD1Do+AAM7mOm8W0Qh+E+F41@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006001cb5b32$ed787ce0$c86976a0$@net>

That adapter box has mounted female connectors for both.
I'd have thought the adapter should have the female NEMA 14-50 and then
perhaps a 6ft pigtail to a J1772 male connector to plug into a charger.  As
is, it seems to me you'll still need a male-male J1772 cable to make this
work----and that can't be cheap.

-mt

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of phil hochstetler
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:35 AM
To: OEVA
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available

A reasonable priced ($236) J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter is now
available as Ebay item number is 260667699877.
The EVDL post with more info is at

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/J1772-to-NEMA-1
4-50-adaptors-for-sale-on-eBay-tp2549687p2549687.html

As the J1772 chargers become more common, this could be very useful
for those of us with non J1772 electric vehicles.
--phil

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From chris at darkstarpro.com  Thu Sep 23 10:05:45 2010
From: chris at darkstarpro.com (chris at darkstarpro.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:05:45 -0400
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available
Message-ID: <380-22010942317545357@M2W119.mail2web.com>

Hey Myles,

This is actually for plugging in a NEMA 14-50 device into a J1772 Level 2
EVSE. Not the other way around... We'll need a bit more electronics to pull
that off.

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Myles Twete matwete at comcast.net
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:20:59 -0700
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available


That adapter box has mounted female connectors for both.
I'd have thought the adapter should have the female NEMA 14-50 and then
perhaps a 6ft pigtail to a J1772 male connector to plug into a charger.  As
is, it seems to me you'll still need a male-male J1772 cable to make this
work----and that can't be cheap.

-mt

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of phil hochstetler
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:35 AM
To: OEVA
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available

A reasonable priced ($236) J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter is now
available as Ebay item number is 260667699877.
The EVDL post with more info is at

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/J1772-to-NEMA-1
4-50-adaptors-for-sale-on-eBay-tp2549687p2549687.html

As the J1772 chargers become more common, this could be very useful
for those of us with non J1772 electric vehicles.
--phil

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From matwete at comcast.net  Thu Sep 23 10:14:24 2010
From: matwete at comcast.net (Myles Twete)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:14:24 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available
In-Reply-To: <380-22010942317545357@M2W119.mail2web.com>
References: <380-22010942317545357@M2W119.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <00c001cb5b42$c5e21b90$51a652b0$@net>

Okay...I guess I don't understand then because that is what I thought I was
saying---14-50 NEMA cord from my charger would plug into this outlet
box...then what?  What you might be trying to tell me is that the plug on
the EVSE (whatever that is) is a male J1772 connector.  I'm new to all this
and have tried to avoid it until the money involved dropped to sane
levels...which it still hasn't really.
-mt

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of chris at darkstarpro.com
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:06 AM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available

Hey Myles,

This is actually for plugging in a NEMA 14-50 device into a J1772 Level 2
EVSE. Not the other way around... We'll need a bit more electronics to pull
that off.

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Myles Twete matwete at comcast.net
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:20:59 -0700
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available


That adapter box has mounted female connectors for both.
I'd have thought the adapter should have the female NEMA 14-50 and then
perhaps a 6ft pigtail to a J1772 male connector to plug into a charger.  As
is, it seems to me you'll still need a male-male J1772 cable to make this
work----and that can't be cheap.

-mt

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of phil hochstetler
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:35 AM
To: OEVA
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available

A reasonable priced ($236) J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter is now
available as Ebay item number is 260667699877.
The EVDL post with more info is at

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/J1772-to-NEMA-1
4-50-adaptors-for-sale-on-eBay-tp2549687p2549687.html

As the J1772 chargers become more common, this could be very useful
for those of us with non J1772 electric vehicles.
--phil

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 23 10:30:21 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:30:21 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=CgfnHjTALhXMXFD1Do+AAM7mOm8W0Qh+E+F41@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=CgfnHjTALhXMXFD1Do+AAM7mOm8W0Qh+E+F41@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimvU6-FH7Sjr23iRbNMV9L+knRK2WEMO7_M-tmZ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Phil. This is perfect for my Chevy S10 electric needs. With this I
can convert any J1772 charging station into a 240V outlet. My induction
paddle Magne Charger <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magne_Charge> can only
use 240V (208V - 270V actually) and (since it is from the '90s) it does not
support J1772.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:35 AM, phil hochstetler <
phil.hochstetler at gmail.com> wrote:

> A reasonable priced ($236) J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter is now
> available as Ebay item number is 260667699877.
> The EVDL post with more info is at
>
>
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/J1772-to-NEMA-14-50-adaptors-for-sale-on-eBay-tp2549687p2549687.html
>
> As the J1772 chargers become more common, this could be very useful
> for those of us with non J1772 electric vehicles.
> --phil
>
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From Rick.Durst at pgn.com  Thu Sep 23 10:34:47 2010
From: Rick.Durst at pgn.com (Rick Durst)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:34:47 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available
In-Reply-To: <00c001cb5b42$c5e21b90$51a652b0$@net>
References: <380-22010942317545357@M2W119.mail2web.com>
	<00c001cb5b42$c5e21b90$51a652b0$@net>
Message-ID: <DB6686604F0FB045BCBAB68912C4F3F60E1D36DEDB@IPEXMAIL.corp.dom>

The J-1772 Chargers will have a 15-25' cord attached to the J-1772 male plug.  The plug will plug into the female inlet on the car. 
In this case, the the top connector is the same as the car inlet.

________________________________________________ 
Rick Durst | Portland General Electric
121 SW Salmon St, 3WTC0407 | Portland, Oregon 97204 | (: 503.464-7631 | 7: 503.464-2284 | *: Rick.Durst at pgn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of Myles Twete
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:14 AM
To: chris at darkstarpro.com; oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available

Okay...I guess I don't understand then because that is what I thought I was saying---14-50 NEMA cord from my charger would plug into this outlet box...then what?  What you might be trying to tell me is that the plug on the EVSE (whatever that is) is a male J1772 connector.  I'm new to all this and have tried to avoid it until the money involved dropped to sane levels...which it still hasn't really.
-mt

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of chris at darkstarpro.com
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:06 AM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available

Hey Myles,

This is actually for plugging in a NEMA 14-50 device into a J1772 Level 2 EVSE. Not the other way around... We'll need a bit more electronics to pull that off.

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Myles Twete matwete at comcast.net
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:20:59 -0700
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available


That adapter box has mounted female connectors for both.
I'd have thought the adapter should have the female NEMA 14-50 and then perhaps a 6ft pigtail to a J1772 male connector to plug into a charger.  As is, it seems to me you'll still need a male-male J1772 cable to make this work----and that can't be cheap.

-mt

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On Behalf Of phil hochstetler
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:35 AM
To: OEVA
Subject: [Oeva-list] $236 shipped J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter available

A reasonable priced ($236) J1772 to NEMA 14-50 adapter is now available as Ebay item number is 260667699877.
The EVDL post with more info is at

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/J1772-to-NEMA-1
4-50-adaptors-for-sale-on-eBay-tp2549687p2549687.html

As the J1772 chargers become more common, this could be very useful for those of us with non J1772 electric vehicles.
--phil

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From pusa411 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 23 11:15:17 2010
From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:15:17 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Smart Electric coming in Oct.
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxmhMOuiSoeeEnHF+Cv1iCPy07_YiTkv_rwVtn@mail.gmail.com>

Smart Electric coming in Oct.

http://smartusa.com/electricdrive/
...

THX..
             Daniel T "Bubba" Conway

Premium-EV
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From pusa411 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 23 11:17:36 2010
From: pusa411 at gmail.com (PREMIUM-USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:17:36 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] PETROLIOCRACY : as usual..
Message-ID: <AANLkTimsJCwi4U=ohNn-AFfn+SEZxAY2AxTTuhncOqdf@mail.gmail.com>

PETROLIOCRACY : as usual..

It is a wonder to see..

The Edison won the big prize X..
 Is it just me, or would more people step into  the Lion Motors machine of a
safe and spacious ride to work..?
Oh, yah, at double the MPGe..  Hmmm
...Hydrocarbons and its' distribution system prevail..  Again..

THX..
             Daniel T "Bubba" Conway

Premium-EV
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 23 11:33:25 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:33:25 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Smart Electric coming in Oct.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxmhMOuiSoeeEnHF+Cv1iCPy07_YiTkv_rwVtn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikxmhMOuiSoeeEnHF+Cv1iCPy07_YiTkv_rwVtn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik+M=tzMSuVkkNuaU0zjF3GfYowTYfJSnt548ut@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like they beat the LEAF and the Volt to market. You can test drive the
Smart ED at the Smart Center of Portland right now.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


2010/9/23 PREMIUM-USA <pusa411 at gmail.com>

> Smart Electric coming in Oct.
>
> http://smartusa.com/electricdrive/
> ...
>
> THX..
>              Daniel T "Bubba" Conway
>
> Premium-EV
>
>
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From bbmdw9mnrq at snkmail.com  Thu Sep 23 11:56:05 2010
From: bbmdw9mnrq at snkmail.com (Steve Bonds)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:56:05 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Smart Electric coming in Oct.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxmhMOuiSoeeEnHF+Cv1iCPy07_YiTkv_rwVtn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikxmhMOuiSoeeEnHF+Cv1iCPy07_YiTkv_rwVtn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4230-1285268166-701107@sneakemail.com>

2010/9/23 PREMIUM-USA pusa411-at-gmail.com
|oeva-list/****************| <6uj8iufl8t at sneakemail.com>:
> Smart Electric coming in Oct.
>
> http://smartusa.com/electricdrive/

Good link!  I had one of these as a possibility, but with a max speed
of 60MPH, I'm not inclined to brave highway 26 in one of them...

  -- Steve


From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 23 12:50:22 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:50:22 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Smart Electric coming in Oct.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik+M=tzMSuVkkNuaU0zjF3GfYowTYfJSnt548ut@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikxmhMOuiSoeeEnHF+Cv1iCPy07_YiTkv_rwVtn@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik+M=tzMSuVkkNuaU0zjF3GfYowTYfJSnt548ut@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGuJRGm_UifNeQmtoC9NXftX4h7P85LRLLx86c@mail.gmail.com>

Gary politely pointed out, in a private email, that the current Smart ED is
lease only. It is not planned to be available for purchase until 2012, so I
retract my "beat them to market" comment.

Regards,
Pat
Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice


On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:33 AM, <patrick0101 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks like they beat the LEAF and the Volt to market. You can test drive
> the Smart ED at the Smart Center of Portland right now.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
>
>
> 2010/9/23 PREMIUM-USA <pusa411 at gmail.com>
>
>>  Smart Electric coming in Oct.
>>
>> http://smartusa.com/electricdrive/
>> ...
>>
>> THX..
>>              Daniel T "Bubba" Conway
>>
>> Premium-EV
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Oeva-list mailing list
>> Oeva-list at oeva.org
>> http://www.rdrop.com/mailman/listinfo/oeva-list
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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 24 11:52:18 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:52:18 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] UL Webinar in EV Infrastructure
Message-ID: <AANLkTinuTMg9Cai4CPWEmZ2t_Aw=XG0OS-w8XRg9SK1p@mail.gmail.com>

Free. If you are interested, here is a webinar.



*From:* Underwriters Laboratories Webinars [mailto:
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From Theoldcars at aol.com  Fri Sep 24 15:04:50 2010
From: Theoldcars at aol.com (Theoldcars at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:04:50 EDT
Subject: [Oeva-list] PCC Odyssey Oct 15, 2010
Message-ID: <6cf54.61e581f7.39ce7a82@aol.com>

Portland Community College Sylvania Campus one of over 125 locations  
across the United States to have a public event for National Alternative  Fuel 
Vehicle Day this coming Oct 15, 2010 . 
 
Anyone who has an Alternative Fuel vehicle contact Kevin Studer at  
503-977-4152 or  
Russ Jones, Automotive Department Chair _rjones at pcc.edu_ 
(mailto:rjones at pcc.edu)    503-977-4173  for more information. 
The Odyssey web site _www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org_ 
(http://www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org) .
About Odyssey _http://www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org./about.html_ 
(http://www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org./about.html) 
Odyssey goals _http://www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org./goals.html_ 
(http://www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org./goals.html) 
 
This is some of the goals of the OEVA. It would be great if  we had a good 
mix of EVs there for the event. 
 
Don Blazer
West Hills Collision Center

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From gary at greenlivingjournal.com  Mon Sep 27 13:48:16 2010
From: gary at greenlivingjournal.com (Gary Munkhoff)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:48:16 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Electricity used to produce a gallon of gasoline
Message-ID: <4CA10310.4070009@greenlivingjournal.com>

  Hi all,

Just read an interesting note on the Gateway Electric Vehicle Club (St. 
Louis) website. An EV can travel 20 miles on the electricity that is 
used to refine one gallon of gasoline. A new perspective on 20 mpg.

Link: 
http://gatewayev.org/how-much-electricity-is-used-refine-a-gallon-of-gasoline#comments

-- 
Don't Buy - Don't Drill

Gary Munkhoff, Editor&  Publisher
Green Living Journal
P.O. Box 677
Cascade Locks, OR 97014
541.374.5454



From jeff.shorepower at gmail.com  Mon Sep 27 22:44:07 2010
From: jeff.shorepower at gmail.com (Jeff Kim)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:44:07 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd: FW: Kitzhaber transportation invite
In-Reply-To: <8147ADF240BCA049B84E0E4F1DF4B98B63B73EA3D2@ZUES.shorepower.local>
References: <8147ADF240BCA049B84E0E4F1DF4B98B63B73EA3D2@ZUES.shorepower.local>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinHLPtNAs=RW2rC3SJ+SmtQLA+RdFDe2mbPATwC@mail.gmail.com>

Lynn Peterson, Clackamas County Chair, asked me to send this out to the
group.  Apparently, John Kitzhaber is a big supporter of the EV industry.

Jeff


   ----- Reply message -----
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Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2010 8:13 pm
Subject: Kitzhaber transportation invite
To: "Jeff Kim" <jkim at shorepower.com>

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From jrab at e-m-w.com  Tue Sep 28 00:40:53 2010
From: jrab at e-m-w.com (John RA Benson)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:40:53 +0200
Subject: [Oeva-list] thomas friedman nytimes article
Message-ID: <57D214CB-F0FB-4CE5-91A3-EBC86473F56E@e-m-w.com>

Good article from the NY times - Let's hope if the US can't, at least Oregon keeps up the good work.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/opinion/26friedman.html?scp=1&sq=electric%20car%20china&st=cse

Their Moon Shot and Ours

By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Published: September 25, 2010 China is doing moon shots. Yes, that?s plural. When I say ?moon shots? I mean big, multibillion-dollar, 25-year-horizon, game-changing investments. China has at least four going now: one is building a network of ultramodern airports; another is building a web of high-speed trains connecting major cities; a third is in bioscience, where the Beijing Genomics Institute this year ordered 128 DNA sequencers ? from America ? giving China the largest number in the world in one institute to launch its own stem cell/genetic engineering industry; and, finally, Beijing just announced that it was providing $15 billion in seed money for the country?s leading auto and battery companies to create an electric car industry, starting in 20 pilot cities. In essence, China Inc. just named its dream team of 16-state-owned enterprises to move China off oil and into the next industrial growth engine: electric cars.

Not to worry. America today also has its own multibillion-dollar, 25-year-horizon, game-changing moon shot: fixing Afghanistan.
This contrast is not good. I was recently at a Washington Nationals baseball game. While waiting for a hot dog, I overheard the conversation behind me. A management consultant for a big national firm was telling his colleagues that his job was to ?market products to the Department of Homeland Security.? I thought to myself: ?Oh, my! Inventing studies about terrorist threats and selling them to the U.S. government, is that an industry now??

We?re out of balance ? the balance between security and prosperity. We need to be in a race with China, not just Al Qaeda. Let?s start with electric cars.

The electric car industry is pivotal for three reasons, argues Shai Agassi, the C.E.O. of Better Place, a global electric car company that next year will begin operating national electric car networks in Israel and Denmark. First, the auto industry was the foundation for America?s manufacturing middle class. Second, the country that replaces gasoline-powered vehicles with electric-powered vehicles ? in an age of steadily rising oil prices and steadily falling battery prices ? will have a huge cost advantage and independence from imported oil. Third, electric cars are full of power electronics and software. ?Think of the applications industry that will be spun out from electric cars,? says Agassi. It will be the iPhone on steroids.

Europe is using $7-a-gallon gasoline to stimulate the market for electric cars; China is using $5-a-gallon and naming electric cars as one of the industrial pillars for its five-year growth plan. And America? President Obama has directed stimulus money at electric cars, but he is unwilling to do the one thing that would create the sustained consumer pull required to grow an electric car industry here: raise taxes on gasoline. Price matters. Sure, the Moore?s Law of electric cars ? ?the cost per mile of the electric car battery will be cut in half every 18 months? ? will steadily drive the cost down, says Agassi, but only once we get scale production going. U.S. companies can do that on their own or in collaboration with Chinese ones. But God save us if we don?t do it at all.

Two weeks ago, I visited the Coda Automotive battery facility in Tianjin, China ? a joint venture between U.S. innovators and investors, China?s Lishen battery company and China National Offshore Oil Company. Yes, China?s oil company is using profits to develop batteries.

Kevin Czinger, Coda?s C.E.O., who drove me around Manhattan in his company?s soon-to-be-in-production electric car last week, laid out what is going on. The backbone of the modern U.S. economy was locally made cars powered by locally produced oil. It started us on a huge growth spurt. In recent decades, though, that industry was supplanted by foreign-made cars run on foreign oil, so ?now every time we buy a car we?re exporting $15,000 of capital, paying for it with borrowed money and running it on foreign energy sources,? says Czinger. ?We?ve gone from autos being a middle-class-making-machine to a middle-class-destroying-machine.? A U.S. electric car/battery industry would reverse that.

The Coda, 14,000 of which will be on the road in California over the next year and can travel 100 miles on one overnight charge, is a combination of Chinese-made batteries and complex American-system electronics ? all final-assembled in Oakland (price: $37,000). It is a win-win start-up for both countries.

If we both now create the market incentives for consumers to buy electric cars, and the plug-in infrastructure for people to drive them everywhere, it will be a win-win moon shot for both countries. The electric car industry will flourish in the U.S. and China, and together we?ll tackle the next challenge: using auto battery innovations to build big storage batteries for wind and solar. However, if only China puts the gasoline prices and infrastructure in place, the industry will gravitate there. It will be a moon shot for them, a hobby for us, and you?ll import your new electric car from China just like you?re now importing your oil from Saudi Arabia.  


From dabrown at ieee.org  Sun Sep 26 17:37:53 2010
From: dabrown at ieee.org (Dan Brown)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:37:53 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] 1975 Porsche 914 ev conversion...
Message-ID: <007001cb5ddc$39953860$acbfa920$@org>

For Sale..

 

Daughter off to college and a reserved Leaf in the (hopefully)
near future, something's got to give.  Unfortunately, it's the
Porsche.  

The conversion was done by Tim K and detailed here:
http://914ev.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html

 

It's the AC kit from Electro Automotive utilizing the Azure
Dynamics AC24 3 phase motor and DMOC 445 controller.  Batteries
were replaced in August 2009.  For details see:
http://www.evalbum.com/2615

 

For more questions or pictures, please email me.

 

Price: asking $9,500.00

 

Thanks,

Dan

 

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From patrick0101 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 29 22:22:39 2010
From: patrick0101 at gmail.com (patrick0101 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:22:39 -0700
Subject: [Oeva-list] Chevy Volt Test Drive
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=SuVv1aM-Kg8nUw_cPMXMomXZu8u_CmVYj45v-@mail.gmail.com>

If you want to test drive a Volt, sign up and head to Seattle
http://www.chevroletvoltage.com/index.php/Volt/join-the-chevrolet-volt-on-the-road-for-volt-unplugged.html

Regards,
Pat
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