[Oeva-list] Trouble with ElectroAuto
flyingsockman at gmail.com
Sat Apr 2 12:17:31 PDT 2011
I have also had severe issues with EA, and am still suffering the
consequences. I did not have issue with my order being filled, and thy even
communicated very well at first. However, I am converting an 86 Mazda RX 7,
non turbo model. Apparently, EA "did not know a non turbo model existed"
even though they advertise that every model works with their transmission
adapter kit. They then sold me a "special non counterweighted flywheel" at a
nearly 50% markup for what turned out to be an off the shelf part that
didn't even fit in my car. It took MONTHS of ignored calls and emails before
they finally responded with a supposed resolution, which cost me another
$80, and still has not solved my problems. I still have not been able to
mount my motor a year and a half after the fact, and it is now looking like
I am going to have to customize their custom adapter to make it work, all
because someone didn't do their homework. They deserve that F. And by the
way, if anyone here can help with my adapter woes please email me!
Jason at frankencar.org
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> 1. Re: Others Having Trouble with Electro Automotive? (Richard Hamje)
> 2. Nissan LEAF Charging Cable Upgrade (Chris Arnesen)
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> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:18:38 -0700
> From: "Richard Hamje" <richard at hamje.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Others Having Trouble with Electro
> To: <oeva-list at oeva.org>
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> Hi Pete,
> I am sorry to report that I had the same problem with EA last year. I
posted messages like yours on forums and got dozens of responses, all but
two negative. Here is what I did:
> I sent a registered letter to their US mail address in Felton. My letter
contained their original order and every email I had ever gotten from them
(all six) promising delivery ins a few weeks. I promised a small claims
action and a letter to the consumer protection offices in California and
Oregon (and I was ready to follow through with my "threat").
> Shari sent me an email and a month later I got most of the stuff I was
shorted. They never delivered my DC/DC converter. The stuff they did deliver
was not exactly what I ordered, but I made it work. I never received any
acknowledgement that they had done anything wrong, or that they still owed
> A couple months later, Mike Brown posted on the EVDL saying that they were
super-busy, he had health problems, etc. etc. I posted back to him,
suggesting that if he was serious about being an honest business he would at
least apologize to the many people he had screwed. No response. I reported
EA to the BBB of Santa Cruz. They never got any response from him and EA now
has an "F" rating. I contacted everyone who had linked to them (other EV
sites) and complained that they should not be promoting a business like EA.
Many took down their links.
> I gave up at that point. The man is a pioneer in EV conversions and his
book is our bible, so I feel uncomfortable saying bad things about him. But
the simple fact is: his business is now a scam, he is an unapologetic crook
and he should probably be in jail.
> For you, I would suggest a very direct, demanding letter followed up by a
letter from your attorney. If you used a credit card and it's still within
the time window, dispute the transaction quickly. Even if the time window
has passed, I would suggest disputing anyway - you might get lucky.
> Worst case, I think you need to be prepared that you are out whatever they
still owe you.
> If you post your query on EVDL, you will probably find another dozen
people in the same boat. I am sorry I ever dealt with EA, and I am sorry for
> Best luck,
> Hello All, I am an OEVA member in Ashland but new to this forum. I am
> curious to know if others have recently worked with Electro Automotive
> in Felton, CA. This is Shari Prang and Mike Brown who I always thought
> were "go-to" people in the conversion business. In any case, I have had
> tremendous difficulty getting them to contact me since I sent the money
> for my motor, adapter and some other items. I then found some recent
> blog postings by others experiencing even worse problems. Does anyone
> in Portland know anything about similar problems and perhaps any
> solutions? Thanks, Pete Jorgensen
> Richard Hamje
> Portland, OR
> richard at hamje.net
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> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:24:05 -0700
> From: Chris Arnesen <chris at darkstarpro.com>
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Nissan LEAF Charging Cable Upgrade
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> I wanted to let everyone know about a service being provided to upgrade
> the stock Level 1 EVSE that comes with every Nissan LEAF that will allow
> it to do Level 1 and Level 2 charging.
> If you don't know already, the Nissan LEAF comes with a Level 1 (120
> volts @ 12 amps) charging cable that can be used to plug into any
> standard power outlet for a maximum 1.44 KWh charge.
> EVSE Upgrade (http://evseupgrade.com/) is providing a service where they
> take your stock Nissan Level 1 EVSE, and for $223 they will replace the
> 120 volt transformer with a 100-240 volt switching power supply and
> replace the necessary components in the EVSE to support a maximum
> voltage of 240 volts at 12 amps (or 2.88 KWh). For that price, it also
> includes swapping out the power plug with a NEMA L6-20 plug and a 120
> volt pigtail adapter so it can be plugged back into a standard outlet.
> I already had a collection of L6-20 adapters, so I opted for the $198
> upgrade that doesn't include the 120 volt pigtail and shipped it on
> Monday, March 25th and received my modified unit this morning, April 1st.
> For something very clean, portable, and stock looking, you can't beat
> the price and if you have any questions I can't answer, there is a
> contact form on the EVSE Upgrade site and Phil will generally quickly
> respond. There is also a large thread on the MyNissanLEAF.com forum with
> all kinds of questions and answers:
> I'll be bringing my LEAF and the upgraded EVSE to the meeting on April
> 14th and hopefully can answer any questions people have about it. Thanks!
> Chris Arnesen
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