[Oeva-list] Fwd: Range anxiety solved

Scott Hippe scott.hippe at me.com
Tue Apr 19 17:09:26 PDT 2011


When I was a teenager, gas was only 26 cents/gallon and still people ran out of gas.  I worked at a gas station and it was
common for someone to walk up needing a can of gas and a ride to his/her car.  Teens often bought 50 cents or 1 dollar of gas
at a time.



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> From: Theoldcars at aol.com
> Date: April 19, 2011 4:59:02 PM PDT
> To: Wendy.Marshall at greshamoregon.gov, oeva-list at oeva.org
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Range anxiety solved
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> Wendy
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> Your post made me laugh. I use to run out of gas as a teenager once in a while. At the time it seem like gas was 4 dollars a gallon when general labor was being paid a 1.50 an hour.
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> Don
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> In a message dated 4/19/2011 4:41:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Wendy.Marshall at greshamoregon.gov writes:
> For those worried about range anxiety in an EV:  Raise your hand if you have ever run out of gas, or been with someone who did, even though there are more than 126,000 gas stations in the US?  I think we’ve all been there, but nobody told us we shouldn’t have an ICE because we might run out of gas.
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> wendy
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> From: Theoldcars at aol.com [mailto:Theoldcars at aol.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:34 PM
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Range anxiety solved
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> Hello Steve
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> I think Pat's post does well at pointing out. The fun and challenge of driving an EV with the current EV infrastructure. I also agree its not going to be long before there are many more charging options.
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> I have managed to make a few trips well beyond my range with a little planning and no loss of time. Of the 70,000 plus miles I have driven all electric. Only a few hundred miles involved any limitation of range. As I think back it is these few planned trips that stand out. I remember them as being a memorable and a general overall fun experience. Back then there were no charging stations so businesses with 240 volts, dryer plugs or RV parks were about the only road charging options. I never went on an extended drive without my assortment of plug adapters and extension cords but never a generator. With a 6.6 kW 240 volt charger it would have taken a very large generator so that was not something I was willing to pack around.
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> Personally I like removing my dependence on oil for local transportation for many reasons. One of them is the vast majority of miles for myself and for many people is local trips of less than 40 miles. There was in all my miles only a couple of trips that exceed the range of one charge. Range anxiety is usually brought up by ICE drivers who fear not having a vehicle with say 300 miles of range. When they only drive 40 miles a day or less.
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> It is not uncommon for a person or a family to have two vehicles. Making one of them an EV is an option to consider. For myself a little S-10 pick up was ideal. It hauls around things that would not fit or loads you would    not want to put in a car. It would carry up to three people although two is better. It is also a vehicle I would prefer not to take on a long drive even if it was an ICE.
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> Another idea for range anxiety is to just rent an ICE when you need it. If your going to put on miles from an extended trip this would be a good time to rent a vehicle as the need comes up.
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> It is possible to drive over a hundred miles a day with an EV I did that years ago with a lead acid S-10. The only limitation is timing and where your driving.
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> Since your on this list I assume you have an interest in electric vehicles. I was curious what is it you find interesting about them or do you have an application your considering?
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> Don
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> In a message dated 4/18/2011 10:05:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, oeva-list-request at oeva.org writes:
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:57:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Steve's Account" <stevel at fern.com>
> Subject: [Oeva-list] Range anxiety solved. Better living thru
>     chemicals!
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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> > Great report Chris.
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> > Another case of range anxiety successfully defeated.
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> > John P. Christian
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> > OEVA Chairperson
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> Range anxiety defeated? Really?
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> Let's see.. in one days stories we have a simple trip, taking less than one
> tank of gas in an ICE, that required repeated stops to "refuel". In some cases
> "fuel" wasn't available when expected because they had turned the power off,
> Several stops for meals, and expensive chocolate and a nites lodging.. And
> several side visits to wait for charging. And the ever popular, don't leave
> home without your CPAP! You NEVER know when you will need it!
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> This looks like successfully defeating anxiety by drowning in Valium.
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> I can imagine that ever Leaf will have a little Honda generator and a
> couple of 5 gallon cans of gas, just to make sure the charger you need is
> available, when you need it.
> 
> Steve
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:09:37 -0700
> From: patrick0101 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Range anxiety solved. Better living thru
>     chemicals!
> To: "Steve's Account" <stevel at fern.com>
> Cc: oeva-list at oeva.org
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> I am seeing signs that at least one person needs some Valium.
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> Alan and Chris shared their stories and both of them seemed to enjoy their
> trip. Sure there were a few bumps in the road, but they did not become early
> adopters because they are filled with trepidation. Just the opposite, they
> are pioneering spirits.
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> A year from now there will be thousands of more charging stations, the
> telematics will have all the locations listed correctly, and the drives
> these two just did will be much easier. Until then, if someone wants to take
> their new car out for a drive, beyond the single charge point of no-return,
> they are in for adventure and I hope it turns out well for them. And if not,
> well I hope that they get a good story they can laugh about later.
> 
> Regards,
> Pat
> Offshore Drilling or Offshore Wind? Simple Choice
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