[Oeva-list] the lone 'ranger'

Craig Schaefer calvinjean2 at comcast.net
Fri Apr 22 20:12:59 PDT 2011


I submit that we all, save a few, are 'fans' of the cars we drive, whether diesel, electric, nat gas (not nearly enough of), gasoline or pedal.

Fanatic is not necessarily derogatory.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Theoldcars at aol.com 
  To: oeva-list at oeva.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 3:40 PM
  Subject: [Oeva-list] the lone 'ranger'


  Hello Steve

  I agree on many points in your post until you say 

   "but for now, it's a "fanatics" car."

  You are entitled to your point of view but you might consider the following.

  Most vehicles are a compromise of some sort.  A high end sports car will do little else well. If you need to haul large heavy items a pickup is a far better choice. If you have a family a mini van might be the ideal vehicle. 

  Just as there are many vehicles do some things very well and for other uses are near worthless. There are many people who have all three of the above. A fun sports car they might only drive once in a while. A pick up or a vehicle capable of pulling a trailer. Then a general household vehicle which many times ends up racking up the bulk of the local trips. 

  If a person has a sports car or a pick up I doubt most people would consider either of them a fanatics car. Around 90 percent of the general population drive less then 40 miles a day. I would say it is fanatical to require a vehicle that can drive 300 miles if you only need 30 or 40 miles of range. 

  Just as it makes sense to use the ICE model that fits the application. Why not have an extra vehicle that is not powered by imported oil?  It is logical to use an EV if it meets a majority of your transportation requirements. Unfortunately there is a vast misunderstanding of EVs by the general population. I still get questioned all the time on how fast does it go? Then a look of surprise on their face that an EV can exceed legal freeway speeds. 

  Lan brought up a good point that electric is a far less expensive fuel. It is also an energy supply we can one way or another manufacture here. The more money a family has to pay for transportation the less funds it has for other needs. Demand causes prices to increase so if everyone uses oil we all have to pay more. There is no free lunch so that quick fill up with 300 miles of range is costing a far more then the price at the pump.

  My father who was an adult during the great depression felt if you cannot afford to pay for something in full you should not be buying it. As a nation we cannot afford our oil imports. Our current solution of printing money that is worth less and less is not sustainable. If we continue to pay for imported oil like this it is only a matter of time until our economy collapses. It's not that gold is going up in value the dollar is falling and falling hard. In the last 5 years the value of gold has increased 300 percent. Gold prices for now are 1500 dollars an ounce. This is becoming a very unstable world market when so much of our money is being held by other countries for oil. Other countries are not going to continue to take our dollars when they keep going down in value. For a while they will accept more dollars per barrel but for how long?

  In the long run the best solution is use as little energy from oil as possible. To use the Leaf as an example if it was a common vehicle it would vastly reduce our dependence on imported oil. Just like any other vehicle it is not a 100 percent solution but it would work for the majority. Vehicles are like tools and you should use the one you need to get the job done. If you don't use a tool very often it is a common practice to go rent one. The same thought process should be applied to vehicles. 

  There are many reasons not to use oil for local transportation. Not everyone agrees if their all valid or if there are other good alternatives.  However as a nation our future depends on what we do now. It is imperative that we reduce our importing of oil as soon as possible.  It is a mistake to put off what we can do today because it might be a slight inconvenience once in a while. 

  Everyone knows the term freedom is not free. Freedom has a price and in this case it might be our general population misconceptions and fears enslaving our nation to a single fuel supply. If the majority of people believe an EV is an inconvenient fanatic's vehicle our freedom is linked to a gas station. A fuel we should not be buying because we are not self sufficient and we cannot afford it. 


  Don

   
  In a message dated 4/20/2011 12:00:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, oeva-list-request at oeva.org writes:
    Things will get better with EV's eventually, as battery performance is
    better characterized, leading to better milage predictions, as tools to
    forcast demand get better and as range improves.. but for now, it's a 
    "fanatics" car.

    Steve



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