[Oeva-list] Update on HB2328

Tim Johnson timj.pdx at frontier.com
Wed May 4 08:46:38 PDT 2011

I think you are missing the point.... ODOT just wants more money, that 
is obvious and quite frankly understandable. But what about the primary 
sponsors of the bills ? The 5000 ICE vehicles that will be allowed in is 
the clue. Remember the 5000 ICE results in a net loss in revenues for 
many years (not what ODOT want). They want to move to a $/mile road tax 
that avoids the premium that gas hogs are forced to pay with our current 
$/gal taxation model.

The would be a tremendous saving for a company that owns a fleet of low 
mileage cars/trucks.

Tim Johnson Scuba Diver
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On 05/04/2011 06:13 AM, Chris Arnesen wrote:
> The biggest issue is that they still aren't considering any other 
> factors when attempting to calculate this vehicle mileage tax. My LEAF 
> still gets a 99 MPGe. At $0.0085 per mile, that's the eqivilant of 
> paying a fuel tax of $0.84 per gallon, way higher than the $0.31 per 
> gallon every other vehicle pays (2.7 times). They really need to 
> utilize the MPG (MPGe), weight class, and odometer mileage of the 
> vehicle to determine the VMT an owner needs to pay.
> Also, just to let everyone know, their intent won't be to use the OBD 
> port since that can be unplugged for diagnostic purposes. However 
> since all new vehicles starting in 2008 are required to use CAN BUS 
> for OBD it wouldn't be hard to tap into the vehicle network at another 
> point.
> Sincerely,
> Chris Arnesen
> On 5/3/2011 11:32 PM, Theoldcars at aol.com wrote:
>> Let me know if my math is wrong
>> To use a Leaf driver for an example.
>> If your cost per kW is 8 cents and your getting 4 miles to the kW. 
>> Then  2.0 cents  is your cost per mile. So this tax of .0156 would 
>> be almost 80% of the cost of fuel. I would like to see the 
>> reaction to gas being taxed at this same level.
>> .0156 cents per mile does not seem outrageous since 10,000 miles 
>> would be only 156.00 dollars in road taxes. Then you consider 10,000 
>> miles would only cost you 200.00 dollars on your electric bill.
>> So if this passes it will cost almost as much to maintenance the road 
>> as it does to fuel an electric vehicle.
>> Amazing when you think about it. As this shows just how efficient an 
>> EV is to drive and in comparison how expensive the road is to maintain.
>> Since were going to review the road taxes how about taking a look 
>> at the current road maintenance cost? One study seems to show the 
>> state of Washington could save 25 million dollars a year over 10 
>> years ago.  This is way more money they will ever be taken in for a 
>> very long time with this EV road tax.
>> http://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/brief/competing-highway-maintenance-lessons-washington-state
>> I was searching Google for a city that was on TV a while back that 
>> had changed to using private contractors. They had vastly improved 
>> their roads and lowered their cost. Anyone else see that?
>> Don
>> In a message dated 5/3/2011 5:08:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> oeva-list-request at oeva.org writes:
>>     3. VRUC = $0.0156/mile (1.56 cents per mile), effective July 1, 2018.
>>     Reduced rate of $0.0085/mile  (0.85 cents/mile) from July 1, 2015 to
>>     2018.
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