[Oeva-list] John Day trip charging available in Fossil OR.

Ray Blackburn oeva_treas at yahoo.com
Sat May 21 13:17:13 PDT 2011


Oops! Sorry guys I left out Fossil OR, I charged there last year.  
 Ray Blackburn OEVA Treasurer. 




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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: John Day or Bust.... (Chris Arnesen)
  2. Fwd:  John Day or Bust.... (Scott Hippe)
  3. Fwd:  target market (Scott Hippe)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:06:02 -0700
From: Chris Arnesen <chris at darkstarpro.com>
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] John Day or Bust....
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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Just wanted to let Leaf owners know that you can upgrade the Nissan 
provided Level 1 EVSE to be Level 1 or Level 2 for $239 from 
http://evseupgrade.com/. It takes about 5 shipping days and I've had 
mine upgraded an know a few others that have upgraded their units as 
well. I shipped mine UPS Ground on a Monday and got it back that Friday, 
so it definitely gets done fast.

I'm still debating about doing the trip, the 90 miles between Condon and 
Dayville make me the most nervous! :-)

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen

On 5/21/2011 10:59 AM, Ray Blackburn wrote:
> Hi OEVA members,
> The time has come to try and get a head count of who may be making the 
> trip to John Day this year for the annual Solwest Energy Fair.  It is
> approximately a three day fair held in John Day, OR.  There are many 
> great classes held on solar power, gardening, biodiesel, etc...  
> Their are motels available and a camping area.
> I must inform the Leaf owners and others who want to attempt this that 
> there will only be 240 volt 30 amp 14 - 50P connections for charging. 
> You will need to buy the adaptor or portable charging station to adapt 
> from 14-50P to J1772, I believe there is a hack for the Leaf to use 
> 240 volts through the 110 cord as well, but am not sure on this. 
> http://www.tucsonev.com/  There are no J1772 connections for charging 
> that I am aware of once you head east on I-84 out of Portland.  We 
> will have charging points at Cascade Locks, The Dalles, Condon and 
> Dayville.  If you can not make your Leaf go 70 miles after leaving 
> I-84 you should not attempt this trip.  Know your vehicle capabilities 
> before you go on a road trip.  I know I could make a Leaf go 70 miles 
> on a hot day on a windy back hwy like hwy 97 but I will not be driving 
> your cars.  We may still yet have charging in Wasco and Spray but 
> don't count on it.  Please contact me if you plan on this adventure.  
> I went last year with the EV Yaris and had a great time.  Ray 
> Blackburn,  OEVA_treas at yahoo.com
> Jennifer Barker, who heads up the Fair does a great job of explaining 
> below why we are doing this and has done wonders to help get charging 
> places in the communities from The Dalles to John Day.
>
> John Day or Bust
> The Oregon Electric Vehicle Association (OEVA) puts out a call to 
> action for all EV enthusiasts who support this vision: that replacing 
> internal combustion engines (ICE, now powering America?s fleet of 
> personal vehicles) with electric drive systems is the quickest and 
> cheapest path to breaking our addiction to oil, cleaning up our air 
> and stopping the flow of our dollars to OPEC. The goal is to promote 
> the widespread adoption of the EV as a vehicle of utility and 
> adventure as well as being good for the environment.
> Electric Vehicle owners and enthusiasts from all over the West will be 
> heading to John Day and SolWest Fair the last weekend of July. Let?s 
> take a lesson from the history of the early days of the auto. 
> Individuals and groups were constantly setting out on daunting trips 
> across vast regions with poor-to-terrible roads, no gas stations and 
> no repair shops. They did it and sold a nation on the ICE.
> Why John Day?
> John Day is a little town in the middle of the eastern Oregon desert 
> and mountains, settled in the late 1800?s by gold miners, ranchers, 
> loggers, and timber workers. In other words, they were hardy pioneer 
> stock, and their spirit still dominates the town. It?s a perfect 
> setting for the pioneers of the EV age. If you can drive an EV to John 
> Day, you can drive an EV just about anywhere.
> John Day or Bust is a collaboration between the Oregon Electric 
> Vehicle Association, SolWest Fair, and the Green Living Journal. 
> www.oeva.org
> http://www.solwest.org/fair.htm
>
> Ray Blackburn OEVA Treasurer.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:45:40 -0700
From: Scott Hippe <scott.hippe at me.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  John Day or Bust....
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
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If a Leaf owner wants to make this trip, I will gladly loan you my converted 
240V Nissan EVSE + the adapter for the 14-50 outlet + a splitter to
allow two EVs to charge off the same 14-50 outlet.  The 240V Nissan EVSA only 
draws 12 amps @ 240v so two can safely be used on a 30amp
circuit.




Scott



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> From: Chris Arnesen <chris at darkstarpro.com>
> Date: May 21, 2011 12:06:02 PM PDT
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] John Day or Bust....
> 
> Just wanted to let Leaf owners know that you can upgrade the Nissan provided 
>Level 1 EVSE to be Level 1 or Level 2 for $239 from http://evseupgrade.com/. It 
>takes about 5 shipping days and I've had mine upgraded an know a few others that 
>have upgraded their units as well. I shipped mine UPS Ground on a Monday and got 
>it back that Friday, so it definitely gets done fast.
> 
> I'm still debating about doing the trip, the 90 miles between Condon and 
>Dayville make me the most nervous! :-)
> 
> Sincerely,
> Chris Arnesen
> 
> On 5/21/2011 10:59 AM, Ray Blackburn wrote:
>> 
>> Hi OEVA members,
>>  
>> The time has come to try and get a head count of who may be making the trip to 
>>John Day this year for the annual Solwest Energy Fair.  It is
>> approximately a three day fair held in John Day, OR.  There are many great 
>>classes held on solar power, gardening, biodiesel, etc...  Their are motels 
>>available and a camping area.  
>>
>>  
>> I must inform the Leaf owners and others who want to attempt this that there 
>>will only be 240 volt 30 amp 14 - 50P connections for charging. You will need to 
>>buy the adaptor or portable charging station to adapt from 14-50P to J1772, I 
>>believe there is a hack for the Leaf to use 240 volts through the 110 cord as 
>>well, but am not sure on this.  http://www.tucsonev.com/  There are no J1772 
>>connections for charging that I am aware of once you head east on I-84 out of 
>>Portland.  We will have charging points at Cascade Locks, The Dalles, Condon and 
>>Dayville.  If you can not make your Leaf go 70 miles after leaving I-84 you 
>>should not attempt this trip.  Know your vehicle capabilities before you go on a 
>>road trip.  I know I could make a Leaf go 70 miles on a hot day on a windy back 
>>hwy like hwy 97 but I will not be driving your cars.  We may still yet have 
>>charging in Wasco and Spray but don't count on it.  Please contact me if you 
>>plan on this adventure.  I went last year with
  the EV Yaris and had a great time.  Ray Blackburn,  OEVA_treas at yahoo.com
>>  
>> Jennifer Barker, who heads up the Fair does a great job of explaining below why 
>>we are doing this and has done wonders to          help get charging places in 
>>the communities from The Dalles to John Day.
>> 
>> John Day or Bust
>> The Oregon Electric Vehicle Association (OEVA) puts out a call to action for 
>>all EV enthusiasts who support this vision: that replacing internal combustion 
>>engines (ICE, now powering America?s fleet of personal vehicles) with electric 
>>drive systems is the quickest and cheapest path to breaking our addiction to 
>>oil, cleaning up our air and stopping the flow of our dollars to OPEC. The goal 
>>is to promote the widespread adoption of the EV as a vehicle of utility and 
>>adventure as well as being good for the environment.
>> Electric Vehicle owners and enthusiasts from all over the West will be heading 
>>to John Day and SolWest Fair the last weekend of July. Let?s take a lesson from 
>>the history of the early days of the auto. Individuals and groups were 
>>constantly setting out on daunting trips across vast regions with 
>>poor-to-terrible roads, no gas stations and no repair shops. They did it and 
>>sold a nation on the ICE.
>> Why John Day?
>> John Day is a little town in the middle of the eastern Oregon desert and 
>>mountains, settled in the late 1800?s by gold miners, ranchers, loggers, and 
>>timber workers. In other words, they were hardy pioneer stock, and their spirit 
>>still dominates the town. It?s a perfect setting for the pioneers of the EV age. 
>>If you can drive an EV to John Day, you can drive an EV just about anywhere. 
>>
>> John Day or Bust is a collaboration between the Oregon Electric Vehicle 
>>Association, SolWest Fair, and the Green Living Journal. www.oeva.org
>> http://www.solwest.org/fair.htm
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Ray Blackburn OEVA Treasurer.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:53:53 -0700
From: Scott Hippe <scott.hippe at me.com>
Subject: [Oeva-list] Fwd:  target market
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Public transportation in most cities has never been able to pick me up at home 
and bring me to the office.  Even if you could make
it work, it takes at least twice as long as an individual car.  New York City, 
San Francisco and Chicago may be exceptions, but I
don't live there.

Perhaps the future of public transportation would be autonomous EVs that pick 
you and drop you off right where you want to go
(think Johnny Cab from the movie Total Recall).  But I doubt I will see that in 
my lifetime.  Meanwhile, I have my Leaf which is
the next best thing available.




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> From: Steve's Account <stevel at fern.com>
> Date: May 21, 2011 11:47:15 AM PDT
> To: oeva-list at oeva.org
> Subject: [Oeva-list] target market
> 
> Tracy writes:
>> 
>> What Scott said goes ditto for me. I have never used a public charging 
>> station so far and doubt I will. I charge at home at night while sleeping 
>> and on rare occasions during the day.
> 
>>> 
>> I did not buy my Leaf to drive across country, or even across state. 
>> I wanted an all electric car that was capable of freeway driving and did 
>> not look like something made for a clown to drive in a circus. 
>> 
> 
> I do think that Scott and Tracy are correct in their assessment of the
> "right fit" for the current crop of EV's.
> 
> Unfortunately, the area covered by their usage paterns is also the 
> area best covvered by public transit.
> 
> One sad observation about highly efficient vehicles is that they often
> sell to folks who already have highly efficient vehicles and are looking
> to get "just that little bit better."
> 
> Had the target market been a 200 mile range with charging at home, they 
> would have gotten a demographic that has less access to public transit
> and drives more miles per year. It's these folks that will, by using
> an EV have a bigger impact on fuel consumption, than someone who used
> little fuel to start with.
> 
> Steve
> 
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