[Oeva-list] Think EV's in the news.

CraigSchaefer calvinjean2 at comcast.net
Tue Aug 21 09:03:53 PDT 2012



I'd be for killing off the DOE as well. 



Your opinion doesn't seem to be all that humble. 



We need security before toy cars. 



When the technology is the best option, it will be relatively affordable to that time. 



and finally 



I'm sticking with 'Totally'. 



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From: "garry painter" <garry at europa.com> 
To: "CraigSchaefer" <calvinjean2 at comcast.net> 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:21:18 AM 
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On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:07 AM, CraigSchaefer wrote: 



Put me down under 'Totally Stupid'.   I don't even know what this means-- 
  
"Given partisan politics, the DOE doesn't often have an opportunity to provide those companies with enough slack to keep going during an inevitable period of growing pains," he said. 
  
Are we saying the DOE killed the battery makers causing them to be sold off to other countries? 




No, the DOE did not kill these battery makers. 

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  How? 
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I believe the above statement, which you do not understand, implies that politicians are blocking the DOE from allowing further funding. 

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   What about companies that succeed in spite of our government? 
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Do you mean like Lockheed Martin? 
Revenue because of the US government: $39,980,000,000 
non-US government revenue:             $6,320,000,000 
Revenue provided to A123 by the govt:    $129,000,000 


IMHO, our financial priorities are not where they should be. 


People whining about the relatively trivial revenue lost by these failing battery companies is like whining about someone cutting a tree down while standing in the middle of a 10,000 acre wildfire. 


$39.98 billion / $129 million = 310 


So we spend $310 every year on Lockheed Martin for every dollar we invested in A123. 
How come I don't hear people whining about that? 
I guess I won't, because Eisenhower is dead. 




ps. I forgot to list 
 [ ] beyond 
in my choose your level of stupid 

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----- Original Message -----
From:   "garry painter" < garry at europa.com > 
To:   "OEVA" < oeva-list at oeva.org > 
Sent:   Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:37:26 PM 
Subject:   Re: [Oeva-list] Think EV's in the news. 


        $118,500,000          Ener1 
$200,000,000,000          US annual trade deficit due to imported petroleum products. 


1 time loss to every American because of Ener1?    25 cents.  
Continuous annual bleed to every American due to dragging our heels? $670  




 U.S.-backed battery-makers fall to foreign competitors 
Analysts wonder whether A123, Ener1 grew too fast for infrastructure that did not exist 

August 19, 2012 

.....Andrew Kaplan, energy partner for Brown Rudnick in Boston, said   a country like China would not have allowed investments in companies like A123 or Ener1 to founder. 
"Given partisan politics, the DOE doesn't often have an opportunity to provide those companies with enough slack to keep going during an inevitable period of growing pains," he said. 


hmmm.... A $10 investment by every American in A123 would give them a market cap of $3 billion. But no, we'll just let a Chinese car parts manufacturer buy it, so we can buy Chinese batteries when we get around to all driving electric. 


Choose your level of stupid: 
[ ] Totally 
[ ] Somewhat 
[ ] Not at all 









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