[Oeva-list] power theft.

Cory Bertsch pi at hiddenspiral.net
Thu Dec 5 12:46:05 PST 2013

One unmentioned problem with just plugging into any random outlet is
the possibility that the outlet may not be able to handle an EV
charging on it. If the line wasn't wired correctly and/or already has
a separate load charging an EV on it could cause a breaker to switch
or cause a fire.

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jeff Kim <jeff.shorepower at gmail.com> wrote:
> For once, I agree with you.  The first article I read didn't give any of the
> additional facts about the assailant's behavior. In this case, he got what
> was coming to him, but what about in other situations, where an honest law
> abiding EV owner finds himself low on electrons?  I personally wouldn't mind
> if someone used an outlet at my house or business if they needed to charge
> to get home (especially if it was only $0.05).  In fact, we have two free
> charging stations at our business that anyone can use at any time. Some
> businesses use this to attract customers, but our business does not do any
> "walk in business."  I see both sides of this issue, but does this mean I
> could get arrested next time I plug my laptop in at a cafe without
> permission?
> Jeff
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Steve's Account <stevel at fern.com> wrote:
>> > This article contains the police departments side of the story:
>> >
>> > http://insideevs.com/police-issue-statement-on-why-the-electricity-stealing-nissan-leaf-driver-was-really-arrested-wvideo/
>> >
>> If the guy hadn't been trespassing in the first place, he would not have
>> had the "oppertunity"
>> to steal power.
>> Clearly this is a pattern with this guy. I'd be willing to bet that every
>> place he goes, he
>> does the same thing.
>> And no. I would not use someone's plug, just because it was in public
>> view, without specific
>> permission.
>> And as far as the cop's choice of "arresting him".. It appears that the
>> local cop didn't
>> arrest him.. he filed a report and his superior officer decided to issue
>> the arrest warrant.
>> I think the cop on the scene acted with restraint... and given the
>> alledged complaint about
>> the "damaged door" he had little choice. And given the previous
>> complaints, I think he was
>> not only justified in doing it, but in responding to the 911 call, he was
>> doing exactly what
>> he should be doing.
>> If it had been "theft of gasoline" instead of "theft of the intangable
>> electricity" would you
>> have felt differently?
>> The Leaf driver deserved to be arressted.. for impersonating a human
>> being.
>> This guy is a jerk.. and just because you can steal fuel at any plug you
>> see theft isn't a
>> "birthright" of an EV driver. The fact that other EV drivers rushed to his
>> defense seems to
>> impune the reputation of all of them!
>> Steve
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