[Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf owner arrested for taking 5cents of energy without asking | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos

Karl Boekelheide Karl at boekelheide.com
Fri Dec 6 00:00:42 PST 2013


I don’t know.  It seems simple to me.  If the police version is correct, and I believe it probably is, the charge should have been trespass.  The guy sound like a jerk who deserved a day in jail.  I think his Leaf ownership should be revoked.  He sounds like a Hummer type guy.  :-)

On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Craig Schaefer <calvinjean2 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I am kinda stupid.
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> From: Lawrence Winiarski
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> Big difference between a public school or park and a private residence...but of course you wouldn't get that...As I said (and your email proves it)  some people are too limited to understand much so I won't bother trying.
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> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:33 PM, Craig Schaefer <calvinjean2 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Yeah, the police made him do it.    As long as we're doing 'maybe's' maybe he made an ass of himself because he perceived stealing a few cents of electricity was no big deal.  Cop had enough and took him in for being an ass.
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> I'm not on anyone's side so if you tell me where you live and I'm driving by, low on fuel, I'll stop in and see if I can siphon a misdemeanor's worth if you have a gas vehicle........
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> CraigS
> Gresham, OR
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> I seriously doubt the "police" version of events.    And what is also sad is that so many "journalists" accept the police version of events
> as "fact".     The fact is that the police are being told to lie as part of their training and it's become an accepted practice nationwide.
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> ...
> a)  They claim a "911" call because someone was using electricity?   yeah right... 
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> b)  The officer claims he was rifling through the car to figure out who the owner was?   Ever think of reading the license plates and calling it in?  OR perhaps
> even god forbid walking over to tennis courts where people where obviously playing and "asking" whose car it was?    
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> No.    I'm 99% sure this was an illegal search using the flimsiest excuse.    And now they have to make up a reason after the fact.   Now the cops are in spin
> control over this trying to put themselves in the best possible light and start a smear campaign against the guy...(which is why they are calling the school "after"
> the "theft" was committed.
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> Now to talk about the supposed "theft" of public services.  .how much public money does it cost to even START to prosecute this theft?   $36/hour for the cop?  thats about penny per second, so the cop wastes the 5 cents of public money in five lousy seconds farting around.     Then we have the damn gas his police cruiser uses to get to the scene of the crime.   At 5 mile round trip and 20mpg that's about a dollars worth of gas.   Now the paper work and the cost of handing it off to another police officer, then the hour or so it took to write  their stupid PR statement to try and justify their idiocy.
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> My guess is the police are gonna "steal" well over $1000 dollars of public money to justify their prosecution over $0.05 worth of power from a public
> school
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> And sadly too many people are going to side with the police, because they are too limited mentally to see the actual stealing going on behind the curtain....
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> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:30 AM, The Donovans <r_donovans at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I suppose there are always at least a coupe sides to the story like this. Looking it up on PlugShare, it appears there is a Nissan Dealer close by that probably would have let him charge. And, I see some private charging stations nearby too.
>  
> One thing we as EV users can do is get plugged in to valuable tools, such as PlugShare, to make sure we are taking advantage of charging our vehicles in a way positive way.
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> Richard
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> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:58 AM, Cory Bertsch <pi at hiddenspiral.net> wrote:
> This article contains the police departments side of the story:
> http://insideevs.com/police-issue-statement-on-why-the-electricity-stealing-nissan-leaf-driver-was-really-arrested-wvideo/
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> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Jeff Kim <jeff.shorepower at gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess I see the argument here, but I still think it's ridiculous. I guess that means anyone that charges their cell phone in public without permission, should be arrested. 
> 
> Jeff   
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> Your friend no-reply at yahoo.com has shared a link with you.
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> Nissan Leaf owner arrested for taking 5 cents of energy without asking | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos
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> Electric vehicles no longer count as spaceships of the road; last month alone, U.S. automakers sell about 10,000 vehicles with a plug every month, and a few like the Nissan Leaf have become commonplace. Unfortunately for those owners, the methods of charging such cars hasn't kept pace with their growth; there's only about 6,800 public
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