[Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf owner arrested for taking 5cents of energy without asking | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos

Michael Miles michael.miles at kerstech.com
Fri Dec 6 17:15:04 PST 2013


Irony: As I'm reading this my laptop is plugged into an outlet at the
airport (along with 3 other folks all plugged in with laptops or cell
phones). No signs for permission or restriction. 

 

Further irony - The accused most likely lives within the school district and
pays taxes to cover such services as electricity.  Not making it right or
wrong, just ironic.

 

Curious to know if the same restrictions (and legal consequences) would
apply to a drinking fountain on school grounds that is used by people
visiting the school outside of school hours? 

 

I see a big future in a company developing a locked power outlet box that
institutions will install to prevent such occurrences, and an equally large
interest on the part of those who will find new workarounds to plug in.

 

So it goes.

 

Mike

 

 

From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of Cliff Hood
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:22 AM
To: oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Nissan Leaf owner arrested for taking 5cents of
energy without asking | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos

 

The last sentence in the Police Report is interesting.  "Mr. Kamooneh was
taking lessons himself."

>From what is said, I think he was truly a jerk, but if he was "taking"
lessons and not "giving lessons" or "recreational play" then I ask, did the
guy giving the lesson have permission to use the facility?

Both the instructor and the student should be guilty of trespass, not just
the student alone.  I don't see that the instructor was cited.  The whole
thing seams like pretext because of the guy's poor behavior. 

>From a Think City driver, I vote for revoking his Leaf ownership.

On 12/6/2013 12:00 AM, Karl Boekelheide wrote:



I don't know.  It seems simple to me.  If the police version is correct, and
I believe it probably is, the charge should have been trespass.  The guy
sound like a jerk who deserved a day in jail.  I think his Leaf ownership
should be revoked.  He sounds like a Hummer type guy.  :-) 

 

On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Craig Schaefer <calvinjean2 at comcast.net> wrote:





I am kinda stupid.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lawrence Winiarski <mailto:lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com> 

To: Craig Schaefer <mailto:calvinjean2 at comcast.net> 

Cc: oeva-list at oeva.org

Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:49 PM

Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Fwd: Nissan Leaf owner arrested for taking 5cents
of energy without asking | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos

 

Big difference between a public school or park and a private residence...but
of course you wouldn't get that...As I said (and your email proves it)  some
people are too limited to understand much so I won't bother trying.

 

 

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:33 PM, Craig Schaefer
<calvinjean2 at comcast.net> wrote:

Yeah, the police made him do it.    As long as we're doing 'maybe's' maybe
he made an ass of himself because he perceived stealing a few cents of
electricity was no big deal.  Cop had enough and took him in for being an
ass.

 

I'm not on anyone's side so if you tell me where you live and I'm driving
by, low on fuel, I'll stop in and see if I can siphon a misdemeanor's worth
if you have a gas vehicle........

 

 

CraigS
Gresham, OR

----- Original Message -----

From: Lawrence Winiarski <mailto:lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com> 

Cc: oeva-list at oeva.org

Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:25 PM

Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Fwd: Nissan Leaf owner arrested for taking 5cents
of energy without asking | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos

 

I seriously doubt the "police" version of events.    And what is also sad is
that so many "journalists" accept the police version of events

as "fact".     The fact is that the police are being told to lie as part of
their training and it's become an accepted practice nationwide.

 

...

a)  They claim a "911" call because someone was using electricity?   yeah
right... 

 

b)  The officer claims he was rifling through the car to figure out who the
owner was?   Ever think of reading the license plates and calling it in?  OR
perhaps

even god forbid walking over to tennis courts where people where obviously
playing and "asking" whose car it was?    





No.    I'm 99% sure this was an illegal search using the flimsiest excuse.
And now they have to make up a reason after the fact.   Now the cops are in
spin

control over this trying to put themselves in the best possible light and
start a smear campaign against the guy...(which is why they are calling the
school "after"

the "theft" was committed.

 

 

Now to talk about the supposed "theft" of public services.  .how much public
money does it cost to even START to prosecute this theft?   $36/hour for the
cop?  thats about penny per second, so the cop wastes the 5 cents of public
money in five lousy seconds farting around.     Then we have the damn gas
his police cruiser uses to get to the scene of the crime.   At 5 mile round
trip and 20mpg that's about a dollars worth of gas.   Now the paper work and
the cost of handing it off to another police officer, then the hour or so it
took to write  their stupid PR statement to try and justify their idiocy.

 

My guess is the police are gonna "steal" well over $1000 dollars of public
money to justify their prosecution over $0.05 worth of power from a public

school

 

And sadly too many people are going to side with the police, because they
are too limited mentally to see the actual stealing going on behind the
curtain....

 

 

 

 

 

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:30 AM, The Donovans <r_donovans at yahoo.com>
wrote:

I suppose there are always at least a coupe sides to the story like this.
Looking it up on PlugShare, it appears there is a Nissan Dealer close by
that probably would have let him charge. And, I see some private charging
stations nearby too.

 

One thing we as EV users can do is get plugged in to valuable tools, such as
PlugShare, to make sure we are taking advantage of charging our vehicles in
a way positive way.

 

Richard

 

 

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:58 AM, Cory Bertsch <pi at hiddenspiral.net>
wrote:

This article contains the police departments side of the story:

http://insideevs.com/police-issue-statement-on-why-the-electricity-stealing-
nissan-leaf-driver-was-really-arrested-wvideo/

 

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Jeff Kim <jeff.shorepower at gmail.com> wrote:



I guess I see the argument here, but I still think it's ridiculous. I guess
that means anyone that charges their cell phone in public without
permission, should be arrested.  

 

Jeff   

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From: <no-reply at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:44 PM
Subject: Nissan Leaf owner arrested for taking 5 cents of energy without
asking | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos
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