[Oeva-list] Does it make sense to buy a lightly used Leaf?

Judith judith.huck at comcast.net
Thu Dec 12 06:52:55 PST 2013

You're right Eric, I should have qualified my QC needs as everyone's story
is unique.  I use my 2012 Leaf as my main vehicle.  Purchased in December
2011 it has over 22k miles on it.  For work I visit job sites around the
Portland area and I don't know how many miles I will need to go in any one
day until that day arrives.  Some days it's 10 miles, but some days I have
to go from home (Happy Valley area), to work (outer East Portland) to
Beaverton to Vancouver to Downtown Portland, back to East Portland and home
to Happy Valley.  A lot of those miles are freeway miles which take more
battery load.  I wouldn't be able to make this work without the QC port and
either the Electric Avenue, Broadway Fred Meyers, or SE 92 Burgerville QC's.
I've had to make some trips from Portland to Salem for work and not had the
luxury of staying hours in Salem hooked to a Level 2 charger to recharge
enough to make it home.  Without the QC port I'd be toast.
Having a QC port gives you options.  Without it you're limited.  If you're
using an electric car for a spare or fun vehicle you have the option of
limited miles.  I don't want to buy gas ever again, so an electric car with
a QC port- works well for me as my only car.

So the QC port or no QC port answer is - it depends on your needs.

-----Original Message-----
From: oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org [mailto:oeva-list-bounces at oeva.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Cha
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:38 PM
To: Rick Durst; oeva-list at oeva.org
Subject: Re: [Oeva-list] Does it make sense to buy a lightly used Leaf?

Fantastic, but I still don't think lack of a QC port on a Leaf is a deal
breaker for most people, and frankly, I think telling people "lack of a QC
port is a deal breaker" without any qualifiers as to WHY it would be (if it
is at all) is doing a disservice to those who are new to EV's.

QC port = good.  No arguments there.
Lack of QC port = not acceptable.  <- I have an argument with that.

But I think I've getting a little bit repetitive here so I'm just going to
drop the subject and y'all can go on as you please without further comment
from me.


On 12/10/2013 2:29 PM, Rick Durst wrote:
> I am not sure where you live,  but there are over 40 of DCQCs within 80
miles of downtown Portland.
> According to the AFDC there are 219 DCQCs in the US.
> http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/#results?utf8=%E2%9C93&loc
> ation=oregon&filtered=true&fuel=ELEC&owner=all&payment=all&ev_dc_fast=
> true&radius_miles=5
> Nearly 1 in 5 of these are located in Oregon  and over 1/3 of them are in
Oregon and Washington.
> Using DCQCs, you can drive from Vancouver BC to Ashland Oregon,   from
Seaside to Mt Hood,  to the Oregon Gardens in Silverton and along the Oregon
Coast  from Astoria to Florence.
> Not to say that this is the fastest  way to go, but for the 2 trips a year
I make to Seattle, I love doing it all electric.  If I were driving to
Seattle weekly, I wouldn't drive the EV.  That is what my Veg oil car is
> More than 2/3 of the DCQCs have no fee (at least for now.)
> Rick Durst

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