[Oeva-list] Mr. Zehner's article

Dima Kukushkin dimakukushkin at gmail.com
Tue Jul 30 14:49:39 PDT 2013


Steve, note "' atround  "faster".
Hydro plant only feeds needed amount of water thru turbines to match
demand. They can very well run 1/2 capacity.  I guess i should have said
"excess generating capacity".




On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Steve's Account <stevel at fern.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Dima Kukushkin wrote:
>
> As long as US is burning coal/oil to generate any electricity - every EV
>> purchased does increase burn of coal/oil at power plants.  ONLY if we
>> would
>> be generating 100% of power from renewables - newly produced EV won't be
>> causing extra burn (there may be exceptions as always, like if specific
>> city has excess of hydro power at night and extra EV charging will only
>> cause turbine to spin "faster" at night than it would otherwise.
>>
>
> There is no such thing as "excess" hydro power.. There is "almost" no
> elasticity in the the electric grid. So.. power must be generated
> at the time it's needed to be of any use what so ever.
>
> (Yes, there are a few things that are "elastic", there are a few
> sites where water is pumped up hill during the night to use
> during the day.. and there is a new "battery" storage facility
> going in in Oregon, as a demonstration project. And there are some
> load shedding capabilities in the ability for power companies to turn
> off non-critical loads when needed.)
>
> The only good killowatt is one that isn't consumed.
>
> AC generators can't generate more power by turning faster. It just
> doesn't work that way. Once they are at "capacity" you can't
> get any more power out of them.
>
> In addition, we might be better off leaving the water for the fish!
>
> I'll know we are "serious" about energy production/conservation, when
> 1000 "fiends" of Oregon starts lobbying for wind power in the gorge
> because that's where it can be produced, where we have transmission
> lines, and near centers of demaind. As it is now, they don't see
> wind turbines as "beautiful".. I hope they eventually do.
>
> Steve
>
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