[Oeva-list] Oregon EV Tax, Verizon and your privacy

Dima Kukushkin dimakukushkin at gmail.com
Tue Jun 18 17:48:13 PDT 2013

Would you tell this to relatives of people killed in recent acts?
shootings, bombings, etc?

Even today government (in face of police for example) can pull me over and
give me a ticket for anything i did not do - and you WILL NOT be able to
proove otherwise.
I don't see how this would change with GPS tracking.

And i also don't see how letting authorised agencies have access to my data
is limiting my freedom, can you expand?  I don't also understand all the
paranoya on TV making a big deal out of keeping list of numbers called.  As
long as it's not published in free access regularly - i'm ok.

Dont' get me wrong - i would love to live in ideal world where people "make
love not war" and government don't waste my tax dollars on various crap
like this. But won't happen. Got to be real.


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM, CraigSchaefer <calvinjean2 at comcast.net>wrote:

>  Gotta stop giving up our freedoms little by little and living in
> fear.    The government is a much bigger threat to you than terrorists.
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Dima Kukushkin" <dimakukushkin at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Lawrence Winiarski" <lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com>
> *Cc: *"OEVA" <oeva-list at oeva.org>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:55:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Oeva-list] Oregon EV Tax, Verizon and your privacy
>  While I am opposed to EV specific taxes - I dont' see why it is bad to
> have government access to my driving records, since i'm not doing anytihng
> illegal.  But if that monitoring will help to disable at least one
> terrorist attack - I am al for it.
> Dmitry
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Lawrence Winiarski <
> lawrence_winiarski at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>   Just thought I'd point out that the Road User Task Force has touted
>> "Verizon" in the
>> public/private partnerships for taxing your vehicles.    (private
>> companies who would handle the "details" of gathering the
>> mileage/GPS tax info)
>> http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/RUFPP/docs/itemb_rucpp_develop_progress_rept_052212.pdf
>> (page 2)
>> Of course we all know that Verizon would never ever in a million years
>> give up your private information on where/when you drive.   That would
>> be a violation of your privacy policy that they swore they'd never break
>> for their phone customers.   They'd never do that unless they had a
>> court order
>>  or at least a strong tingling sensation.     And all of us who worried
>> about it are old crackpots anyway.
>> On a lighter note, here's President Obama's letter to Verizon Customers.
>> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/06/a-letter-to-verizon-customers.html
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