pdx-b5 Un-Official Web Site
last updated 1997 Apr 22.
"Portland Area Babylon 5 Fan Club"
The pdx-B5 Fan Club is a growing group of friends in Porland, Oregon and nearby areas (Eugene, Vancouver, etc.) that meet at irregular intervals to watch "Babylon 5" and/or do other fun stuff.
In spite of the fact that cats have never appeared on the B5 show, we also talk about cats.
Here's some events that are still in the planning stages.
Subject: Re: pdx-b5: GREEN! PURPLE!
From: orso steven n
To: pdx-b5@aracnet.com
...
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Mike Shkolnik wrote:
> Hey, let's have a Drazi Party! I went to Laserport last night with my
> company and it was a lot of fun. For about $15 per person you get two
> games of lasertag, lasting 12 minutes each, and all you can eat pizza.
> The team colors are green and red, but we can pretend red is purple! If
> we guarantee 20 people, we get the place to ourselves! Sound like a cool
> thing? We can talk about it tonight, though I may not be able to make it
> tonight.
That's what the London-based B5 fans who assemble for periodic Babblings
at Page's Bar in Westminster do from time to time. See the listings for
the various "Drazi War" events at the Babblings website.
http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jmorley/gold_channel/babblings.html
...
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:09:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elana who?
Subject: pdx-b5: B5 party on the coast!!! 8-)
To: pdx-b5@aracnet.com
...
I'd be willing to see old RERUNS of B5 on bad tape on a B&W TV
(enduring Zima commercials on top of it) if we had a B5 party on the
Oregon Coast!!
...
COOL!!! :) :) :)
-Elana
Does anyone know where more recent issues of this calendar are ?
Yes, we now have a "Official Dessert of pdx-b5" (I think). We waffled between [no pun intended] Eggnog cheesecake[*], Chocolate, Eggnog cheesecake & Liver [?], Gummybears[*], Salted Nuts, spoo[*], Breen[*], Flarn ...
[*] "I always bite their little heads off first" -- anonymous pdx-b5 listmember.
[*]Breen is what the Narn call Swedish meatballs.
[*]"What does spoo taste like ?" "Meat Jello." -- J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
[*]as published in "Back Fence". Elana is collecting a list of Eggnog Cheesecake recipies and a list of places that serve the stuff.
"Anything that hopes to become the "official" anything of the COJ has to be something I like, or someone has to give me lots of money. (I agree with Scott Adams, I like money.)" -- brianw@pacifier.com, brian walz
Then, with Solomon-like wisdom, Chris Carter posted:
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:46:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Carter
To: pdx-b5@aracnet.com
Subject: Re: pdx-b5: Elana starts a food trend! :)
Other folks said:
> > >Eggnog cheesecake! ...
> >... the Official Dessert of pdx-B5.
Then Andrea Letourneau said:
> Blech!!!
My vote for Official Dessert of pdx-b5 is Whatever the Listmember in
Question Wants. A) This makes sure that everyone gets something that
pleases them and doesn't make the ill; and B) It's much more in keeping
with B5.
"What do you want?"
--
Chris Carter -- carter@aracnet.com Unaffiliated with aracnet.com or FOX TV.
ftp://ftp.aracnet.com/users/carter/ http://www.aracnet.com/~carter/
Before logging on / take time / to shave /
in your e-mail / you'll get raves -- Burma-.Sig
Other food items:
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From: carter@aracnet.com (Chris Carter)
To: pdx-b5@aracnet.com
Subject: pdx-b5: (Fwd) Swedish Chef's Top Ten Breen Recipes
Organization: Freefall Impact Simulations, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 05:51:16 GMT
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This one should hurt you folks almost as much as it hurt me. (It only
hurts when I laugh...)
From: M195722@sl1001.mdc.com (Dan Dassow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Subject: Swedish Chef's Top Ten Breen Recipes
Date: 6 Jan 1997 18:00:03 -0500
Swedish Chef's - Tup tee breee receepes.
10. Cheeps und breee deep. Loompy boot testy.
9. Breee flefured M&Ms. Melts in yuoor ooreeffice-a, nut oon yuoor
deegits.
8. Iskeemu breee peee-a. Furst Oone's fefureete-a.
7. Fuut lung breee-dugs oon a boon. Vetch it veeggle-a vheele-a yuoo iet
it.
6. Breee oon a steeck. G'Ker's fefureete-a. Joost be-a cereffool tu nut
puke-a yuoor iye-a oooot veet zee steeck vhee yuoo ere-a dune-a.
5. Bluudy spleee breee. Reech in irun. Nern muzeers lufe-a serfeeng
thees deesh tu zeeur puoochleengs.
4. Peunoot bootter und breee sundveech. Cereffool yuoo dun't chuke-a oon
thees sundveech.
3. Gek und breee cesserule-a. Best serfed leefe-a.
2. Suy-breee boorgers. Fur zee fegetereeun in yuoor speceees.
1. Beked breens.
Breens, breens, zee megeecel frooeet.
Zee mure-a yuoo iet, zee mure-a yuoo tuut.
Zee mure-a yuoo tuut, zee better yuoo feel.
Su iet breee veet ifery meel.
murphy@ais.net (Brendan Murphy) wrote
on 3 Jan 1997 01:24:01 GMT
Top ten breen recipes
>Top ten breen recipes.
>10. Chips and breen dip. Lumpy but tasty.
>9. Breen flavored M&Ms. Melts in your orifice, not on your digits.
>8. Eskimo breen pie. First One's favorite.
>7. Foot long breen-dogs on a bun. Watch it wiggle while you eat it.
>6. Breen on a stick. G'Kar's favorite. Just be careful to not poke your
>eye out with the stick when you are done.
>5. Bloody spleen breen. Rich in iron. Narn mothers love serving this
>dish to their pouchlings.
>4. Peanut butter and breen sandwich. Careful you don't choke on this
>sandwich.
>3. Gak and breen casserole. Best served live.
>2. Soy-breen burgers. For the vegetarian in your species.
>1. Baked breens.
>Breens, breens, the magical fruit.
>The more you eat, the more you toot.
>The more you toot, the better you feel.
>So eat breen with every meal.
--
Chris Carter -- carter@aracnet.com Unaffiliated with aracnet.com or FOX TV.
"Error can point the way to truth, while empty-headedness can only lead to
more empty-headedness or to a career in politics." -- Master Li Kao
Subject: Re: pdx-b5: Gastronomy
From: Chris Carter
To: pdx-b5@aracnet.com
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:54:07 -0800
At 09:37 AM 3/10/97 PST, Dwight Gruber wrote:
>Well, its the ReRun Doldrums, and I am involved in a serious B5 viewing
>marathon with some friends. In order to enhance the experience, I need
>some human recipies for flarn, spoo, etc.
What follows are three recipes for Bagna Cauda.
[begin text import]
This is the recipe that Marcella Hazan gives for Bagna caoda from her
classic Italian cookbook:
3/4 cup olive oil
3 tablespoons butter
2 teaspoons finely chopped garlic
8 to 10 flat anchovy fillets, chopped
1 teaspoon salt
Heat the oil and butter until the butter is thoroughly liquefied and
barely begins to foam. (Don't wait for the foam to subside or the butter
will be too hot.) Add the garlic and saute very briefly. It must not
take on any colour. Add the anchovies and cook over very low heat,
stirring frequently, until the anchovies dissolve into a paste. Add the
salt, stir, and bring to the table along with raw vegetables (cleaned, cut
up and dried).
The vegetables she lists are: cardoons, artichokes, broccoli (the stalk
not the florets), spinach, zucchini, sweet peppers, celery, carrots,
radishes, asparagus, or any other fresh veggie you fancy.
On how to eat it, she says: Eating bagna caoda is a two-handed affair.
One hand takes a vegetable, the other bread, dipping them alternately in
the sauce. The only interruption in this resolute rhythm is for long,
slaking swallows of young, lively wine.
Bon appetit!
...
Bagna Cauda (from Jeff Smith's -The Frugal Gourmet-)
1/2 cup olive oil
1/4 lb. butter (1 stick) - not margarine!
5 cloves garlic, finely chopped
6 anchovy fillets, mashed
black pepper
Heat oil and butter together in top of double boiler. in a small
skillet cook the garlic in a bit of this oil until soft. add the
anchovies, and cook till the fish turns into a paste, about 5 min. mix
this paste with the hot oil and butter. transfer to a chafing dish or
fondue pot to keep warm on the table (it congeals as it cools.)
...
From: navoff@pubsd.ih.att.com (J. Potts)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Subject: Re: Bagna cauda (was: Re: You'll LAUGH! You'll CRY! You'll..?)
Date: 22 Apr 1996 15:52:30 GMT
Organization: Babylon 5 Ladies Spinning Guild and Terrorist Society
Sawchuk Tara L (3tls19@qlink.queensu.ca) wrote:
: Anybody got a recipe for bagna gauda? (dunno what it is, dunno how to
: spell it)
3cjmd@qlink.queensu.ca (De Castellvi Jaime M) wrote:
>Somebody posted one a long while back, but I don't have a copy. I do have
>an *amazing* one for gazpa-choke (pretty *strong* gazpacho) , though :)
In article <104998@goatly.demon.co.uk>,
Bruce Goatly wrote:
>That somebody was, I believe, Jan Potts - I lost the original posting but
>had printed the recipes out. So here they are, after retyping.
Ooh! I'm famous (well, not really. but...). Yes, I was the culprit. Thanks
for reposting them. I was off experiencing a fit of domesticity this weekend
so I haven't been on in a couple of days. (But I now have a garden full of
flowers, that is until the rabbits eat it). Since I last posted that recipe
for bagna cauda, I have come across another (very tasty) variety. The other
recipes calling for olive oil are a southern Italian variety of bagna cauda.
Here is a northern Italian version of the recipe:
1 pound of butter (not margarine)
1 pint of heavy cream
1 can of anchovies, mashed
a shit load of garlic (hey! that's how the recipe I was given was written)
(at least 20 cloves or about 4-5 heads that have been minced or put through
a garlic press)
Melt butter in a saucepan on med-high heat (I used an electric wok). Add the
garlic and anchovies. Then add the cream and reduce the heat to simmer. Cook
for several hours stirring occasionally. I began the cooking process about 10
or 11 in the morning for a party that evening. The advantage to this recipe
is that the ingredients stay incorporated (i.e. mixed together) and (unlike
the olive oil version) the garlic and anchovies don't sink to the bottom.
Also it coats the dippers more easily. Like the Southern Italian version,
you can use a variety of veggies and breads for dipping. Both kinds are
best if served in a fondue pot or other dish that can be kept warm. This
version, in particular, will separate when it gets cold (however, it will
reconstitute when heated and stirred).
--
JRP
"BLONDE? Blonde? You didn't TELL me you were a blonde....."
--Gharlane of Eddore
[end text import]
I don't have a recipe for Breen (Swedish meatballs) handy, but one
shouldn't be to hard to find. As for Flarn, I think tofu prepared in a way
that might make it vaguely interesting should suffice. Don't have a clue
what you'd do about Spoo...
Hope this helps. :)
--
Chris Carter -- carter@aracnet.com <*>
http://www.aracnet.com/~carter/
We don't have a official one yet, but we have these nominations:
- "All I Want for Christmas Is My Homeworld Back"
- "B5 12 Day of Christmas"
Does anyone have lyrics for these ?
Our latest project
Science Fiction/Fantasy Day at the
Midland Regional Library
805 SE 122nd (corner of Stark & 122nd), on
Saturday February 1
from 1:00-5:00PM.
While there, we saw
- FILK music 1-2PM
- author Steven Barnes 2-3PM
- SCA demonstration 3:30-4:30PM
If you're coming to the library on I-205, take the Stark St. exit, go east on Washington until it turns into Stark and continue to 122nd. Make a right on 122nd and you will see the parking lot. If you're coming on I-84, take the 122nd St. exit and go south to Stark St.
One of the 2 founders of the pdx-B5 mailing list is known as "Elana who?".
Straczynski appointed Elana to the post of Queen of B5 fans in a post to rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.
Does anyone have the the original posting ?
In the meantime, here's one of the first responses to that posting:
From: sorso@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (orso steven n)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5
Subject: Re: Elana leads B5 Group at We
Date: 10 Jul 1995 14:51:55 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 12
straczynski@genie.geis.com writes:
> Okay, Elena, you can be Queen of B5 Fans.
>
> But I get to wear the tiara.
>
Elena? Elena who?
Oh, Elana who! That's very differen*WHAM!* *WHAM!* *WHAM!*
*WHAM!* *WHAM!* *WHAM*
About this web page:
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If you can think of *any* way to improve this site, please email the current maintainer at the address at the bottom of this page.
1997 Apr 20: decided that "Portland Area Babylon 5 Fan Club" didn't convey the sophisticated image we wanted to project.
1997 Apr 3: Chris Carter notified everyone that he's moving the pdx-b5 mailing list to q7, including the official pdx-b5 page.
1997 Feb 1: Discovered that Chris Carter (the other *founder* of the pdx-B5 mailing list)
already has a web page for pdx-B5. Whoops.
1997 Jan 29: David Cary saw a need for a web page dedicated to the pdx-B5 group, and created one for them at http://www.rdrop.com/~cary/pdx-b5.
Official PDX-B5 Physical Mailing Address
PDX-B5
c/o ELANA
PO Box 42385
Portland, OR 97242
If you want to write a check, make it out
to ELANA. (The bank is happy to take single-name checks, and
there's not quite enough room to write
"Elana, Queen of B5 Fans & Co-Founder of the pdx-B5 mailing list")
Official pdx-b5 Statement of List Topicality
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:24:38 -0800
To: pdx-b5@aracnet.com
From: Chris Carter
Subject: pdx-b5: META: list topicality
Earlier this evening I (reluctantly) honored a request by a user asking to
be removed from pdx-b5. This request came as a direct result of the recent
discussion under the subject line 'ON TOPIC PLEASE'. While I appreciate the
opinions of all who have posted under that subject, I'm nevertheless made
very angry by the fact that a subscriber felt it necessary to leave the
list, presumably due to the inhospitible nature of the thread. With this in
mind, I must ask that all discussion relating to topicality of messages on
this list cease immediately. If any of you have concerns regarding what is
topical for this mailing list that I don't answer in the next paragraph or
two, please feel free to e-mail me privately.
The question that needs answering is, "What is topical for discussion on
pdx-b5?" That question is a trifle more complex (at least to me) than might
otherwise be expected, as I don't think pdx-b5 fits the typical mold for a
list given over to the discussion of a particular subject. pdx-b5 isn't
simply an informational list, nor is it a tightly moderated forum, nor is it
the sort of list where a fixation is endlessly beaten to death. pdx-b5 is a
gathering place for people with an interest in B5, and while B5 is certainly
the topic of choice around here, I hardly think that it need be the only
topic available. This list isn't as much about B5 as it is about the people
who enjoy it; us.
When topic drift occurs, I tend to allow the drift simply because the drift
usually comes along at a time when we are collectively in between tick and
tock regarding new episodes. Drift keeps the list from going comatose for a
period, and you never know what kind of stuff could come up while we're in
between. However, it's also true that the drift can get tiresome after
awhile. To those who grew tired of the eggnog cheesecake thread, I extend
my apologies. I probably should have reined that one in.
It's also true though, that the individual subscriber shares some
responsibility in developing discussion for this list. While a frequent
poster may need to exercise some discretion regarding posting of something
that is way out of bounds as far as topicality is concerned, it seems to me
somewhat hypocritical of a lurker to register a complaint, when in fact that
lurker, by their very definition, is not him/herself contributing to
discussion on the list. You all make this list your own whenever you post.
If you want it to be about eggnog cheesecake, you can keep posting about it
until I drop the hammer. On the other hand, if you really want this list to
be about B5, start posting about it. Sitting on your hands until you decide
to complain doesn't shift the topic drift back toward B5, but rather serves
to aggravate me and other listmembers. I suspect this is not precisely what
you had in mind.
So what does this boil down to? B5 is always on topic barring some
absurdity not yet encountered. As for other stuff, my tendency will always
be to let it ride until it either becomes more of a burden than a help, or
until sufficient complaint is registered with me to warrant shutting down a
thread. And if you do feel that a particular subject has worn out its
usefulness, please don't post to the list about it. Let me know what's up
and I'll take whatever action I deem necessary. More than anything else, I
want pdx-b5 to be a friendly place where people don't have to feel spooked
everytime they want to send a message. If problems arise, I'll be here to
take care of things.
That said, lets get back to some Christmas fun! I hope everybody has a
merry one, as well as a Happy New Year. :)
New episodes of B5 start the week of January 27, 1997, with "The Long
Night." During that same week, on January 31, Star Wars will be returning
to theaters. Kind of a double whammy, eh? ;~)
--
Chris Carter -- carter@aracnet.com Unaffiliated with aracnet.com or FOX TV.
ftp://ftp.aracnet.com/users/carter/ http://www.aracnet.com/~carter/
Before logging on / take time / to shave /
in your e-mail / you'll get raves -- Burma-.Sig
Alara Rogers, Aleph Press
(Wed, 13 Sep 1995 ):
First they came for the hackers. But I never did anything
illegal with my computer, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the pornographers. But I thought there was
too much smut on the Internet anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the anonymous remailers. But a lot of nasty
stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the encryption users. But I could never
figure out how to work PGP anyway, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for me. And by that time there was no one left
to speak up.
--based on a quote from Pastor Martin Niemoller
Pastor Martin Niemöller:
(
http://beavis.intercom.net/~serendip/cda/niemoll.html
)
'First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out -
because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out -
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me -
and there was no one left to speak out for me.'
They came for the communists, and I did not speak up because I wasn't a
communist; They came for the socialists, and I did not speak up because I
was not a socialist; They came for the union leaders, and I did not speak
up because I wasn't a union leader; They came for the Jews, and I didn't
speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no
one left to speak up for me. -Martin Niemoller (1892-1984)
(also see
the Barmen Declaration
http://ucc.org/faith/barmen.htm
)
From: Cheryl.Thompson@MVS.UDEL.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5
Subject: Severed Dreams (analysis-2)
Date: 10 Apr 1996
...
...
Date: Tuesday, 9 April 1996
To: rastb5@solon.com
From: Cheryl.Thompson@MVS.UDEL.EDU
Subject: Severed Dreams (analysis-2)
...
11. The final ISN Report.
Well, there were times when I didn't think I'd ever feel any sympathy for
the ISN staff (ANfaW). This just goes to show you, doesn't it?
...
Anyone remember that very famous quotation ... ?
...
the parallel
-did- need to be drawn here. If ISN had spoken up earlier, when Clarke first
began his machinations a year before, they could have spoken up in the cause
of others. Now, indeed, there's no one left who dares protest the closing of
the station or the death or arrests of its staff. To use the Two Questions,
the reporters answered, 'I -want- to stay on the air and be safe.' before
answering the question, Who are you?, with 'a fellow human being with the
power to help those whose rights are being trampled'.
...
Sherry
...
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